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RE: European Championships - 2/21/2014 8:42:50 PM   
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RE: European Championships - 2/21/2014 8:48:21 PM   
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Pelligrini really needs to keep his mouth shut. Premier League is Man City's to lose, considering their depth of talent. Certainly more than Arsenal or Chelsea.

Comments he makes after a loss like the Barca one make him sound like a bit of a spoiled baby.

He is a well paid, spoiled, baby.

Edit: But this seem to fit many football managers.

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RE: European Championships - 2/22/2014 2:39:06 AM   
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RE: European Championships - 2/22/2014 3:14:19 AM   
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RE: European Championships - 2/25/2014 6:10:08 PM   
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RE: European Championships - 2/25/2014 10:22:38 PM   
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I am going to watch Olympiacos versus Manchester United in the Champions League.
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Lets hope Man U lose 2-0

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RE: European Championships - 2/25/2014 10:59:29 PM   
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I am going to watch Olympiacos versus Manchester United in the Champions League.
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Lets hope Man U lose 2-0


LOL

They did!

P.S.: feel free to PM the next saturday Euro Millions winning numbers! Thanks in advance.

P.P.S: and now let's hope Chelsea is trashed 8 - 0. And yes, it's personal! I want Mourinho to lose everything (sorry about the fans ). Here's my prophecy: this guy will soon leave football as no one will hire him. He will end up either as 1) Portugal national team coach or 2) TV pundit.

I give him 2 years maximum.

Remember my words!

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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 7:16:23 PM   
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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 7:27:41 PM   
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Swedish TV have been talking about The Spurs for 10 minutes now and they say one nice thing after another. And even more nice things about their fans. And this in a program who focus on the entire Europa League.
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No idea what they are saying nice things about - we are toilet


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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 7:36:35 PM   
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Swedish TV have been talking about The Spurs for 10 minutes now and they say one nice thing after another. And even more nice things about their fans. And this in a program who focus on the entire Europa League.
Warspite1

No idea what they are saying nice things about - we are toilet


They have Tottenham as one of the favourites to win Europa League.

And they were of the opinion that the Tottenham fans were the best in England.

Edit: This might be because a majority of the Swedish sport reporters are Tottenham fans.

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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 7:41:13 PM   
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Swedish TV have been talking about The Spurs for 10 minutes now and they say one nice thing after another. And even more nice things about their fans. And this in a program who focus on the entire Europa League.
Warspite1

No idea what they are saying nice things about - we are toilet



They have Tottenham as one of the favourites to win Europa League.

And they were of the opinion that the Tottenham fans were the best in England.
warspite1

I'll take the fan compliment - but believe me, we are so far from winning the cup it's untrue.

Based on this bilge so far I cannot see us scoring - no creation, no skill, just soooo poor

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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 8:00:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		0-0 at half-time. What happened to the Tottenham that used to play quick, counter-attacking football that scared the hell out of defences?

Soldado is lucky to be on the pitch after a definite elbow and Vertonghen is getting involved in stupid niggles.

No way Dneipro won't score this half.

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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 8:12:57 PM   
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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 8:57:01 PM   
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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 8:58:17 PM   
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And this while they play bad, according to Warspite1. So nothing can stop them when, or if, they play well.

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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 9:04:07 PM   
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Tottenham easily to the next round.

And this while they play bad, according to Warspite1. So nothing can stop them when, or if, they play well.
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The score tells 30% of the story. We were incredibly lucky. That was no sending off.......

Edit: on reflection it was a definite head butt....

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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 9:06:44 PM   
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I do not understand why Adebayor have not been a starting player more often this season.
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He fell out with AVB - doesn't everyone? - and Tim Sherwood put him back in when he took over.

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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 9:07:15 PM   
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Tottenham easily to the next round.

And this while they play bad, according to Warspite1. So nothing can stop them when, or if, they play well.
warspite1

The score tells 30% of the story. We were incredibly lucky. That was no sending off.......

Here they thought it was a sending off. Although they argued about how much he was provoked. But head butting or marking a head button is always a red card. You can't argue such things away.

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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 9:09:46 PM   
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Tottenham easily to the next round.

And this while they play bad, according to Warspite1. So nothing can stop them when, or if, they play well.
warspite1

The score tells 30% of the story. We were incredibly lucky. That was no sending off.......

Here they thought it was a sending off. Although they argued about how much he was provoked. But head butting or marking a head button is always a red card. You can't argue such things away.
Warspite1

See edit - yes I've seen a replay and it was a butt.


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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 9:17:09 PM   
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Tottenham easily to the next round.

And this while they play bad, according to Warspite1. So nothing can stop them when, or if, they play well.
warspite1

The score tells 30% of the story. We were incredibly lucky. That was no sending off.......

Here they thought it was a sending off. Although they argued about how much he was provoked. But head butting or marking a head button is always a red card. You can't argue such things away.
Warspite1

See edit - yes I've seen a replay and it was a butt.


Goodie! We agree on something. That calls for a cup of tea.

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RE: European Championships - 2/27/2014 9:26:02 PM   
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Tottenham easily to the next round.

And this while they play bad, according to Warspite1. So nothing can stop them when, or if, they play well.
warspite1

The score tells 30% of the story. We were incredibly lucky. That was no sending off.......

Here they thought it was a sending off. Although they argued about how much he was provoked. But head butting or marking a head button is always a red card. You can't argue such things away.
Warspite1

See edit - yes I've seen a replay and it was a butt.


Goodie! We agree on something. That calls for a cup of tea.
Warspite1

Excellent idea


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RE: European Championships - 3/1/2014 12:43:36 PM   
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RE: European Championships - 3/1/2014 6:56:27 PM   
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RE: European Championships - 3/1/2014 7:15:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its seems strange that no other clubs (that I'm aware of) do this. Its very common to have the date of founding in the club badge - but not in the name - unless you're German.

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RE: European Championships - 3/1/2014 11:15:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		So I'm trying to understand soccer and like I have said enjoy watching America play in the World Cup, so I decided to start with the UK, did some reseach and what I really like is this, if you are from a lower division you can play your way up to the first tier? Also doing some research on the German leauge, why is there no team from Berlin?

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RE: European Championships - 3/1/2014 11:37:38 PM   
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Also doing some research on the German leauge, why is there no team from Berlin?


There is: Hertha BSC.
http://www.herthabsc.de/

Promotion and relegation are common in Europe soccer leagues.
Sometimes the fight against relegation creates more drama than the fight for the championship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd2vffUhSXg (Sorry its in German)

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RE: European Championships - 3/1/2014 11:57:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK! Thank you for the links. Do the best teams in Germany ever play the best teams form other countries like the UK, France or Spain? I'm not talking about National teams.

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RE: European Championships - 3/2/2014 5:55:05 AM   
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OK! Thank you for the links. Do the best teams in Germany ever play the best teams form other countries like the UK, France or Spain? I'm not talking about National teams.
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Yes they do. Since the late 50's (iirc) there has been European competition in addition to domestic league and cup competitions. The European club competitions are played during the domestic season (there are some countries whose season is different because of their location and the weather, but most European seasons run from August - May (give or take).

These competitions have gone through a few different guises but essentially (and allowing for a few name changes) you had:

European Cup

This was a competition for the Champions of the top division of each European League (+ the winner could defend their title, even if not that seasons domestic winner). E.g. Nottingham Forest only one the English league championship once (1978) but have won the European Cup twice (1979 and 1980) as they were allowed to defend their 79 triumph. It was when flying back from a European Cup semi-final in Belgrade in 1958 that the Manchester United air crash happened. They stopped off in Munich and while trying to take off in snowy conditions, they crashed, killing most of the glorious "Busby Babes" team. It is highly likely that Manchester United would have been the dominant force in European soccer had that not happened.

Real Madrid (Spain) were the main winners in the early years and then a number of teams had periods of dominance in the late 60's and early 70's - Ajax (Holland) Inter Milan (Italy) and Bayern Munich (Germany). Scotland's Celtic were the first British team to win the trophy (1967) and England's Manchester United won it a year later. In the late 70's and 80's, English teams dominated - Liverpool, Forest and Aston Villa.

European Cup Winners Cup

This was a competition for the winners of the main domestic cup. Tottenham Hotspur were the first English winners of this or any European trophy in 1963 (beating Atletico Madrid 5-1 in Rotterdam). A host of British clubs won this trophy.

Inter City Fairs Cup / UEFA cup

This was a competition for the best placed clubs in the domestic leagues, beginning with the runners-up. How many places were available for each country depended on the strength of the domestic league, but typically 3-4 for the bigger countries.


You could only appear in one competition and so if you won the cup and league, you played in the European Cup and the runners up in the cup played in the Cup Winners Cup. If you were one of the high finishers in the league, but won the cup, you played in the Cup Winners Cup and the club that finished in the next place down went into the ICFC/UEFA Cup.

Champions League

Money talks as they say, and in more recent time (early 90's?) they got rid of the European Cup and replaced it with the Champion League. This is the premier European Competition and is where the big bucks are. You no longer have to be the winner of your league to play in it - Top countries like England, Spain etc get their top 4 teams enter. The money is so big here that getting into the top 4 in England is seen as absolutely vital to financial success.

Europa League

The Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Cup no longer exist either and have been replaced with this secondary competition. ALL European football used to be played on a Wednesday night. Now, because of TV and money, the Champions League games are played on Tuesday and Wednesday nights and the Europa League is relegated to a Thursday (which does not help its popularity with managers who have a domestic game at the weekend).

The Europa League is badly maligned which is a real shame. Its a top competition and any winner has to beat top class opposition. Its a shame that so many English clubs do not take it as seriously as they should.

Anyway, I hope that potted history is helpful.


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RE: European Championships - 3/9/2014 4:36:35 PM   
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Hull City have never been in the final and Sheffield United are from League 1. Neither likely to win as they will face Arsenal or Manchester City in that Final, but you never know……..

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RE: European Championships - 3/9/2014 6:04:13 PM   
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Either Hull City or Sheffield United will be in the FA Cup Final

Hull City have never been in the final and Sheffield United are from League 1. Neither likely to win as they will face Arsenal or Manchester City in that Final, but you never know……..
warspite1

Hold the phone!!!

Manchester City 1-2 Wigan Athletic. WHAT A GAME!!

I should not want that result as it means Arsenal are clear favourites for the cup. But for the moment I'll just enjoy a bit of FA Cup magic…..

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