Slitherine

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Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes <-- Wth?

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 30



Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 16
Spitfire VIII x 48
P-40K Warhawk x 148
P-40N5 Warhawk x 100
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 49
P-51A Mustang x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Dear Village Idiot,

I'm almost religious in my focus on doing device upgrades all over the map. When it comes to India/Burma theater, I think of our correspondence on the issue of upgrading to the '43 squads many months ago. Those little "=" signs mean you can do so. Do to some errors on my part, I'm now starting my orders by doing India/Burma first rather than last. Usually I start at Pearl and after a brief stop in USA, I work my way west.

It is the oversights with some pain involved that get us to learn in AE.

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I leaned to use the "Stockpile" option for devices better a while back when I had a Chinese Corp in India filling out her TO&E. I had divided the Corp and the MMG went to just part of the Corp. It took months before i had enough for the other two parts. The 'fun' part of this game is the learning never stops.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 15, 44
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Night Naval bombardment of Wake Island at 136,98 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

52 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Queen Elizabeth
BB Valiant, Shell hits 1
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 1
BB Idaho
BB California
BB Nevada
BC Renown

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 17 (7 destroyed, 10 disabled)



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 14
Port hits 7

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Ground combat at 60,47 (near Mandalay)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 35595 troops, 528 guns, 230 vehicles, Assault Value = 1308

Defending force 17325 troops, 186 guns, 274 vehicles, Assault Value = 488

Allied adjusted assault: 492

Japanese adjusted defense: 937

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
503 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 24 (2 destroyed, 22 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
506 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 195 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 34 (6 destroyed, 28 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (8 destroyed, 11 disabled)


Assaulting units:
11th (East African) Division
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
50th Indian Para Brigade
3rd New Chinese Corps
85th British AT Gun Regiment

Defending units:
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
39th/A Division
2nd RTA Division
39th/C Division
2nd Army
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

13th-16th April -44

Not much happening besides the Wake assault.

Wake

First bombardment goes in and pops instead of going boom.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 15, 44
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Night Naval bombardment of Wake Island at 136,98 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

52 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Queen Elizabeth
BB Valiant, Shell hits 1
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 1
BB Idaho
BB California
BB Nevada
BC Renown

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 17 (7 destroyed, 10 disabled)



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 14
Port hits 7

Never seen such a poor result. I messed up with the night recon though so that might explain some. But this probably means Erik has some massive forts in place. Probably 7-9. This is going to take a while. IŽll try from the air tomorrow. IŽm only using the CVEs for strike missions. I hope to appear weaker then I am and lure Erik to battle. As seen in the screenshot KB is on the move. He moved the KB the turn before my Wake bombardment though. So he might turn back now that he knows the Marianas isnŽt the target. IŽll hopefully know tomorrow.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Trying to look on the bright side:

A couple of those BBs are ready for the breakers more or less. No Iowa-class to be sure.

Recon can add to results a great deal. I used to be a non-believer on this, but I am now. DL rules. You can't get it all done in one night either.

You say there are 5000 men on Wake. Probably about right. The results above are useful with this in mind. How likely is it that non-combat took 100% of the damage? It can happen, but is it likely? With that many BBs? Maybe there ARE no combat troops on the island. If he has a CD unit and a base force that's pretty close to 5000 when you add Support.

If he's had Wake for years I agree with your Forts estimate. But if there are no combat LCUs on the island Forts can be dealt with.

Don't get discouraged. Collect more info, continue to prep the island. It may be less than it seems after this turn.

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Morning Air attack on Wake Coastal Gun Battalion, at 136,98 (Wake Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 245
SBD-5 Dauntless x 52
TBF-1 Avenger x 137


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Also attacking 64th Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 8th Recon Regiment ...
Also attacking Wake Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 64th Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 8th Recon Regiment ...
Also attacking Wake Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking 64th Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 8th Recon Regiment ...
Also attacking Wake Coastal Gun Battalion ...

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All of the small PB classes of ship can be converted into many types with virtually the same armament and capabilities. This ship is being used because it's a combat ship, not a merchant, and because it has a long enough range to be able to stay out there for a while. This is the type of ship the US found off of Japan during the Doolittle attack. Several were sunk by surface vessels. So what I'm doing here has an exact historical relevance, even down to ship type.

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I have my "pilot rescue ships" out!

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Jocke - Doing my orders now. Guess who is going through all his BFs in India/Burma to make sure they have the latest radar??

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

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I have my "pilot rescue ships" out!

Someitmes it seems more productive to go after port and airfield attacks to hit the supply depots thatn to attack non-engaged ground troops behind forts with carrier bombers.

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Morning Air attack on 64th Naval Guard Unit, at 136,98 (Wake Island)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 243
SBD-5 Dauntless x 52
TBF-1 Avenger x 136


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on 16th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes


Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 11
Liberator B.III x 13
Liberator B.VI x 3
Liberator GR.III x 21
Wellington GR.VIII x 13
Wellington B.X x 17
Wellington GR.XIII x 12
B-17F Fortress x 6
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 36
B-24J Liberator x 163


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 2 damaged
Liberator B.III: 1 damaged
Wellington B.X: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
503 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

CV Air Groups - If you think you may encounter enemy warships, regardless of size, I set my DB/TBs on Naval Attack (10% Search) with a secondary mission AF or Ground Attack with a specific target selected. You should be doing this with all your carriers off of Wake. So, in the AM Phase if no enemy ships targeted, there will not be any strikes. In the PM Phase they will hit the base if no warship found.

Looking at New Guinea, what are you doing about advancing up the southern coastline??

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Morning Air attack on 8th Recon Regiment, at 136,98 (Wake Island)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 238
SBD-5 Dauntless x 52
TBF-1 Avenger x 135


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 2 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
166 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

17th - 18th April -44

Burma

I moved in here in force again. Striking out from Chittagong at Prome. I noticed Erik had troops moving through there so I probably caught them in move mode.

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Morning Air attack on 16th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes


Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 11
Liberator B.III x 13
Liberator B.VI x 3
Liberator GR.III x 21
Wellington GR.VIII x 13
Wellington B.X x 17
Wellington GR.XIII x 12
B-17F Fortress x 6
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 36
B-24J Liberator x 163

With the 2E reinforcements I sent from the East Coast I now have 1012 bombers in Burma!

Have you taken out the LI at Rangoon?

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The Moose

(in reply to JocMeister)

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

17th - 18th April -44

Burma

I moved in here in force again. Striking out from Chittagong at Prome. I noticed Erik had troops moving through there so I probably caught them in move mode.

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Morning Air attack on 16th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes


Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 11
Liberator B.III x 13
Liberator B.VI x 3
Liberator GR.III x 21
Wellington GR.VIII x 13
Wellington B.X x 17
Wellington GR.XIII x 12
B-17F Fortress x 6
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 36
B-24J Liberator x 163

With the 2E reinforcements I sent from the East Coast I now have 1012 bombers in Burma!

Have you taken out the LI at Rangoon?

The Moose .. he has over a thousand bombers in theater . should the question not be "Have you taken out Rangoon yet?" [meaning port, LI, airfield, all moving things ... ]

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"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"

(in reply to Bullwinkle58)

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

17th - 18th April -44

Burma

I moved in here in force again. Striking out from Chittagong at Prome. I noticed Erik had troops moving through there so I probably caught them in move mode.

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Morning Air attack on 16th Division, at 55,50 (Prome)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes


Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 11
Liberator B.III x 13
Liberator B.VI x 3
Liberator GR.III x 21
Wellington GR.VIII x 13
Wellington B.X x 17
Wellington GR.XIII x 12
B-17F Fortress x 6
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 36
B-24J Liberator x 163

With the 2E reinforcements I sent from the East Coast I now have 1012 bombers in Burma!

Have you taken out the LI at Rangoon?

The Moose .. he has over a thousand bombers in theater . should the question not be "Have you taken out Rangoon yet?" [meaning port, LI, airfield, all moving things ... ]

Well, I was trying to gently suggest that mid-1944 is a good time to step up the strategic game and not worry about squashing bugs so much with 4Es. It's hard to let go of tha early-war mentality where you throw everytthing you have at every situation just because you have so little. If the LI is alive it needs to die. Those couple hundred supply per day then have to flow overland (probably Bangkok) or come by water. It makes his life harder than losing 300 squads in the jungle would do.

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The Moose

(in reply to Crackaces)

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Well, I was trying to gently suggest that mid-1944 is a good time to step up the strategic game and not worry about squashing bugs so much with 4Es. It's hard to let go of tha early-war mentality where you throw everytthing you have at every situation just because you have so little. If the LI is alive it needs to die. Those couple hundred supply per day then have to flow overland (probably Bangkok) or come by water. It makes his life harder than losing 300 squads in the jungle would do.

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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Well, I was trying to gently suggest that mid-1944 is a good time to step up the strategic game and not worry about squashing bugs so much with 4Es. It's hard to let go of tha early-war mentality where you throw everytthing you have at every situation just because you have so little. If the LI is alive it needs to die. Those couple hundred supply per day then have to flow overland (probably Bangkok) or come by water. It makes his life harder than losing 300 squads in the jungle would do.

"Absolutely! and to support your thoughts .. now there is just over a 1,000 bombers .. "Cologne" might be considered and maybe hitting the refinery and the Resources? Then again I am thinking that you are right. It is best to focus all 1,000 bombers on LI exclusvely ensuring the best chance of getting destroying all 40 units on the first strikes [The mission is going to come in multiple passes with 5 here, maybe the 4E will concentrate and get 10-15 ....]

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Afternoon Air attack on Wake Coastal Gun Battalion, at 136,98 (Wake Island)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 197
SBD-5 Dauntless x 49
TBF-1 Avenger x 112


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on 53rd Infantry Brigade, at 87,110 (Biak)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 62
B-24J Liberator x 104
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 26, 44
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Night Naval bombardment of Wake Island at 136,98 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Idaho
BB California
BB Arizona
BB Nevada
BC Renown
DD Crane
DD Kennison
DD Vendetta
DD Stuart
DD Downes

Japanese ground losses:
264 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 24 (17 destroyed, 7 disabled)

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Afternoon Air attack on 8th Recon Regiment, at 136,98 (Wake Island)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 449
SBD-5 Dauntless x 231
TBF-1 Avenger x 137
TBM-1C Avenger x 128


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 6 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
353 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled <-- This I like!
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 27 (1 destroyed, 26 disabled)