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RE: No Escorts? - 7/30/2012 4:53:58 PM

crsutton

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In Malaya we finally reached Jahore Bharu. Now we're gonna mass our mighty armies for the final push.... We'll move more bombers to pound Singapore AF for the next week, then we'll attack.

DO NOT attack into Singapore with any infantry other than WHOLE divisions. If you go with just the components of a division those components, especially the infantry regiments, will end up almost totally disabled and out of the war for two months.

Been there, done that!!

I strongly recommend that you don't cross over with anything less than 3 whole divisions. I usually have everybody follow the 25th Army HQ.

While this is wise advice, having just crossed I can tell you that sometimes best laid plans still go off track. I crossed with two regiments and 6 divisions and a few other odds and ends. The regiments were fine after the shock but one division was trashed beyond use, down to 15 AV!!! No issue with leaders, fatigue, or moral. Just tough luck. The regiments were actually the best preserved in this attack. Go figure.

Well, some eggs are bound to be broke...I would take the results-expecting one out of six divisions to get cracked.

Later in the war the Allies get some monster assault engineer units with over 200 squads of combat engineers each. They look great but put them in a major assault with other Allied divisions and they always seem to get hammered. I just suppose that is how the game works. It does not matter much as the average Allied division in 44 is loaded up with combat engineers anyways.

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/30/2012 5:36:43 PM

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Thanks guys. i'll try to recombine all my divisions for the final assault. Let's just hope not too many eggs will be broken...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 15, 42

A quiet day but with an interesting developement in China.

Another Maru lost due to a ducth sub (no escort this time, i admit).... and the Kendari invasion fleet is 5 hexes far from its target, backed up by Kaga's CVTF and by some old BBs. BFs are already on their way.

In China we reconned Tsuyung few days ago....empty

...so i moved a couple of para units to Canton and made a para drop this turn....a walk in the park! The base is ours and now the southern Chinese front is cut from Chungking! We'll reinforce the conquered base with elements of the 38th Divisions now and we'll push northwards with the Canton Army...while we're flanking Changsha!

Seems interesting....

In Sumatra Bakoleng is conquered on the western side of the island and Toeboeli (in front of Palembang) belongs to the Empire too

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Submarine attack near Terempa at 56,80

Japanese Ships
xAK Zuiko Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXV

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Ground combat at Tuyun (74,51)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 452 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 29

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 11

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tuyun !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
1st Raiding Rgt /2

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/30/2012 5:45:42 PM

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Once again his subs are driving me mad, while mines aren't hitting a damned thing!

Ah, I see your problem! Mines are supposed to BE hit by ships, not to hit the ships on their own. This fundamental flaw would cause one to lay minefields in a highly inefficient manner.

Alternatively, you could be saying that you are using your submarines as mines. While this might be a valid use of midget subs, it is highly unlikely to be an effective tactic with fleet boats.

Of course, the third possibility is...

;-)

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/30/2012 6:01:37 PM

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The Tuyun move is a good diversion, but he'll be able to reinforce fairly quickly unless he was really not being careful at all. Even if he can't it'll be tough to fly in enough to hold it for long. It will make him have to move things around and garrison other bases that can often be left unoccupied, like Chihkiang and Patung. But the Chinese just have so many men there could be 2k AV at Kweiyang just sitting around.

Most likely Tuyun will be target range number 1 for the Chinese training groups as of tomorrow.

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/30/2012 9:45:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: obvert

The Tuyun move is a good diversion, but he'll be able to reinforce fairly quickly unless he was really not being careful at all. Even if he can't it'll be tough to fly in enough to hold it for long. It will make him have to move things around and garrison other bases that can often be left unoccupied, like Chihkiang and Patung. But the Chinese just have so many men there could be 2k AV at Kweiyang just sitting around.

Most likely Tuyun will be target range number 1 for the Chinese training groups as of tomorrow.

That might be...but for sure will be an interesting developement!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 16, 42

Today we managed to bring 90 AVs to Tsuyung...our zeros on LRCAP managed to shoot down 6 boogies that came bombing the base as Obvert as foreseen... We already transfered 18 zeros and a little base force (9 AVs) is going to be airlifted there. I should be able very soon to trace a supply path from Indochina leading to Tsuyun and maybe we can hold... some chinese units are already on the march from North...good, that's what i wanted: to make the front move!

At Kendari we managed to land more than 200 AVs...resistance is weak and we should be able to take the base tomorrow...unfortunately Kaga's group expended their torps on a stupid TK convoy near Ambon....

...no sign of enemy cruisers...they must have fled seeing a mighty force of mine

Nothing much else to report...

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Morning Air attack on Tuyun , at 74,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 6
SB-III x 29

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-29A Hudson: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
SB-III: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x SB-III bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
3 x SB-III bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
3 x SB-III bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
5 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x SB-III bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
4 x SB-III bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
6 x SB-III bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
3rd Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead

6 enemies shot down and tomorrow they'll find more opposition if they come...an Oscar Sentai will be flying LRCAP mission in addition with the two zero chutai sent directly there...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lautem at 74,114

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
B5N1 Kate x 6
B5N2 Kate x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
TK War Sirdar, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
TK Sunadmiral, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

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Ground combat at Kendari (70,106)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 788 troops, 9 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 28

Defending force 7392 troops, 62 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 217

Assaulting units:
Kendari Garrison Battalion
Kendari Base Force

Defending units:
Kure 2nd SNLF
III/66th Naval Guard Unit
Bandasan SNLF
Kure 1st SNLF
Sasebo 2nd SNLF
1st Ind Engr Rgt /1

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/30/2012 9:46:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: Gridley380

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Once again his subs are driving me mad, while mines aren't hitting a damned thing!

Ah, I see your problem! Mines are supposed to BE hit by ships, not to hit the ships on their own. This fundamental flaw would cause one to lay minefields in a highly inefficient manner.

Alternatively, you could be saying that you are using your submarines as mines. While this might be a valid use of midget subs, it is highly unlikely to be an effective tactic with fleet boats.

Of course, the third possibility is... ;-)

ahahahah, isn't "mines" the plural of "mine"? I meant "my own"...but in plural....

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/30/2012 10:49:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Today we managed to bring 90 AVs to Tsuyung...our zeros on LRCAP managed to shoot down 6 boogies that came bombing the base as Obvert as foreseen... We already transfered 18 zeros and a little base force (9 AVs) is going to be airlifted there. I should be able very soon to trace a supply path from Indochina leading to Tsuyun and maybe we can hold... some chinese units are already on the march from North...good, that's what i wanted: to make the front move!

Nicely done. If you haven't found them out yet the combat engineer units from Mancuria are perfect for this kind of mission. Engineers and AV, plus cheap to buy out and can be flown around easily.

You must have a lot of transports on detail there. If you can get the majority of that division in you have a chance to hold the place. Once you have forts the Chinese have trouble breaking through. If you can now push from the South as well you should have some scrambling going on for the Chinese. Wouldn't hurt to bomb his units in strat mode along the railroad as well.

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/31/2012 12:04:45 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 17, 42

The first attack at Kendari went less good than what i expected...but tomorrow we'll make another deliberate attack and i hope to get the base!

In China, over Tsuyun we managed to achieve a solid 27 to 1 against chinese air force...NOT BAD!
But a huge group of chinese armies is already behind the river...

...i have 106 AVs there...tomorrow maybe 150...nothing more for the next 4/5 days.... anyway...a good turn overall....

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Morning Air attack on Tuyun , at 74,51

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 4
SB-III x 26

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-29A Hudson: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
SB-III: 12 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 11

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Morning Air attack on Tuyun , at 74,51

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
I-15-III x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-15-III: 2 destroyed

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Ground combat at Kendari (70,106)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7725 troops, 62 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 218

Defending force 1034 troops, 15 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 27

Japanese adjusted assault: 103

Allied adjusted defense: 45

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Kure 2nd SNLF
1st Ind Engineer Regiment
III/66th Naval Guard Unit
Kure 1st SNLF
Bandasan SNLF
Sasebo 2nd SNLF

Defending units:
Kendari Garrison Battalion
Kendari Base Force

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Ground combat at Kendari (70,106)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 748 troops, 9 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Defending force 7671 troops, 62 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 212

Assaulting units:
Kendari Garrison Battalion
Kendari Base Force

Defending units:
Kure 1st SNLF
III/66th Naval Guard Unit
Kure 2nd SNLF
1st Ind Engineer Regiment
Bandasan SNLF
Sasebo 2nd SNLF

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Ground combat at 78,58 (near Canton)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3952 troops, 32 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 115

Defending force 5341 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 51

Japanese adjusted assault: 138

Allied adjusted defense: 26

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
281 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1366 casualties reported
Squads: 40 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 58 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
38th/C Division

Defending units:
62nd Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
16th Group Army

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/31/2012 4:46:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
Today we managed to bring 90 AVs to Tsuyung...our zeros on LRCAP managed to shoot down 6 boogies that came bombing the base as Obvert as foreseen...

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/31/2012 8:46:49 AM

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Ahahahah, so i guess "boogies" is not correct, right?

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 18, 42

Still a sad day for my Navy... an AO (escorted by 2 DDs!) is hit and sunk near Menado by a ducth sub, while an xAK is hit and sunk south of Truk....

...i'm devoting lots of efforts in the ASW but those nasty little bugs seem to be completely unbeatable!

At Tsuyun we reinforced the place with 6000 supplies and some engineers. Now we have 16 aviation support and 125 AVs... should arrive at 150 within the next 2 days and forts should be up to level 1. Don't know if i can handle a chinese shock attack when they'll cross the river... 18k men are advancing....quite a lot...i have barely 3500... and no heavy guns with me...the only good thing is that my units there are really crack ones, with top leaders...maybe we can have some good bonuses..... who knows!

Kendari fell today. 2 Base forces are already enroute. Soon we'll be able to patrol the seas near Darwin with my Mavis...

Ambon invasion force is on the way....

Prepping for the Java invasion....

In Malaya we're massing the troops at the very gates of SIngapore...i gotta pay attention to stacking limits...i'm already on the edge

In Burma everything is getting ready for a push north of Moulmein....let's see if i can get a foothold in Burma...

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Submarine attack near Taliaboe at 73,103

Japanese Ships
     AO Hayamoto, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
     SS O24

AO Hayamoto is sighted by SS O24
SS O24 launches 6 torpedoes at AO Hayamoto

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Sub attack near Truk at 112,109

Japanese Ships
     xAK Nikki Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
     PB Hirotama Maru

Allied Ships
     SS Plunger

SS Plunger launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Nikki Maru
Plunger diving deep ....
PB Hirotama Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Hirotama Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Hirotama Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Hirotama Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Hirotama Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Ground combat at Kendari (70,106)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7689 troops, 62 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 214

Defending force 970 troops, 11 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Japanese adjusted assault: 128

Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 42 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kendari !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
     82 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
     594 casualties reported
        Squads: 4 destroyed, 14 disabled
        Non Combat: 37 destroyed, 2 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
     Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
     Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
     Units retreated 1
     Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
   Kure 1st SNLF
   Bandasan SNLF
   1st Ind Engineer Regiment
   Kure 2nd SNLF
   III/66th Naval Guard Unit
   Sasebo 2nd SNLF

Defending units:
   Kendari Garrison Battalion
   Kendari Base Force

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/31/2012 9:13:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

At Tsuyun we reinforced the place with 6000 supplies and some engineers. Now we have 16 aviation support and 125 AVs... should arrive at 150 within the next 2 days and forts should be up to level 1. Don't know if i can handle a chinese shock attack when they'll cross the river... 18k men are advancing....quite a lot...i have barely 3500... and no heavy guns with me...the only good thing is that my units there are really crack ones, with top leaders...maybe we can have some good bonuses..... who knows!

18k is lot but it is only number no more that 300AV at best. Probably ~100AV
Your troops are fresh, experienced with good morale.
His troops have low morale,XP and probably half of his squads is disabled.
Oh, and they have almost no supplies.

Send your bombers against those troops for few days to build disruption and fatigue and after that when they shock attack they will be executed by your men.

EDIT:
I think Tuyun is wood rough terrain, that should triple your AV plus fort 1 will give another 10% so you should be ok.

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/31/2012 1:30:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: obvert
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Nicely done. If you haven't found them out yet the combat engineer units from Mancuria are perfect for this kind of mission. Engineers and AV, plus cheap to buy out and can be flown around easily.
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*Hey obvert, did you attend GreyJoy's classes on "Place Name Simplification"?

*(Spurious post to increase GJ's post count - nothing to do with AAR action or plans)

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/31/2012 3:14:38 PM

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"boogie"-woogie

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/31/2012 3:18:50 PM

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Plotting "bogies" while listening to "boogie-woogie". Yes, I see what CR was talking about.

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RE: Waves of corpes - 7/31/2012 5:02:06 PM

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Oh, now i see .... "bogies"

Thanks guys. I swear my english will improve

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 19, 42

Q-Ball sent what was left of his AVG to LRCAP Tsuyun... my CAP was too low and he probably sent his planes at 20k...so we ended up the fight with 3 zeros lost, 3 Oscars and 6 Sallies... and, above all, 5 crack fighter pilots lost... Oh well, my bad. However Tsuyun today has 130 AVs and 8,000 supplies and 1 fort

...not bad!

At Palembang he sent his damned ducth bombers at 1000 ft....my CAP was too high and i got a transport badly damaged...

The good news of the day is that, finally, one of my AMCs found something (else than a sure death) north of NZ...a convoy with troops.... we did pretty well i'd say and even if we didn't destroy the whole little convoy, it feels good to finally make some allied soldiers sink in their ships

The invasion of Ambon is on the move. Probably in 4 days we'll be ready to land.

At Horn Island he has 5 units and 6,000 men!!!!

...think a regiment won't be enough....I will probably have to use those units devoted to Ambon once the latter falls....i'm fallin way behind my planned scheldue...uffff

At Jahore Baru i had to order some units to move back...the stacking limit is 75,000 there and there's no way i can place there the equivalent of 6 divisions plus all the supporting units (HQs, Arty, Ind Engineer rgts etc) without burning all my supplies.... more days lost....

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Norfolk Island at 114,175, Range 17,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     AMC Kinryu Maru

Allied Ships
     PG Herald
     xAP Adelong, Shell hits 2, on fire
     xAP Corio
     xAP Echunga, Shell hits 4
     xAP Iron Master

Allied ground losses:
     47 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Norfolk Island at 114,173, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     AMC Kinryu Maru, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
     PG Herald, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
     xAP Adelong, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
     xAP Corio, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
     xAP Echunga, Shell hits 3
     xAP Iron Master, Shell hits 1

Allied ground losses:
     433 casualties reported
        Squads: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
        Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
        Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 60th Chinese/B Corps, at 75,50 , near Kweiyang

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     Ki-21-Ic Sally x 39
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
     H81-A3 x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
     30 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     Ki-21-IIa Sally x 91
     Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6
     Ki-48-Ib Lily x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-21-IIa Sally: 11 damaged
     Ki-48-Ib Lily: 5 damaged

Allied ground losses:
     8 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 22

It's been nearly a month now since we started the carpet bombing of Singapore...the base is trashed since then...wonder how's his supply situation....

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     A6M2 Zero x 8
     Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
     139WH-3 x 6
     B-339D x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-339D: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
     xAK Nansin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 5:46:55 PM

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Whoa! Kinryu Maru kicks behind! Sorry for the hijack. Audacious posting of a converted cargo ship.

4 x 152mm (6-inch)/50 cal guns, 2 x 13mm AA guns, 2 x 53cm torpedo tubes, 1 x 110cm searchlight, 1 x floatplane.

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 6:12:09 PM

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It's been nearly a month now since we started the carpet bombing of Singapore...the base is trashed since then...wonder how's his supply situation....

Until you cross over and cause his economy to stop producing, he has enough fuel and resources to keep his HI and LI producing.

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 7:54:42 PM

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Thanks guys. I swear my english will improve

No, please...we are fine with your English. I need the drinks, trust me

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 10:19:35 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 20, 42

So at Tsuyun the first shock attack is easily repulsed. I got a 1-46 odds. He has a foothold beyond the river but tomorrow we'll airlift the 3rd regiment of the 38th and this should give the defenders the time needed to wait for reinforcements.
In the south we're marching steadly towards Liuchow. Once this city is captured (and i have good feelings about that) the whole Changsha front may be in danger.
I sent 4 tank units and a regiment from Luzon to Canton. In less than a week they should be already marching towards Liuchow...

Ground combat at Tuyun (74,51)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 6797 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 197

Defending force 4618 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 163

Allied adjusted assault: 8

Japanese adjusted defense: 373

Allied assault odds: 1 to 46 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1521 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 151 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
60th Chinese/A Corps
60th Chinese/B Corps

Defending units:
1st Raiding Regiment
Yokosuka Assault SNLF
5th Guards Engr Rgt /1
1st JAAF AF Coy
2nd JAAF AF Coy /1

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Another AMC of mine found a convoy near canton Island... didn't manage to inflict lots of damages but this should force him to escort his convoys in a more intensive way...

Day Time Surface Combat, near Jarvis Island at 164,146, Range 16,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AMC Akagi Maru

Allied Ships
PC Alert
AO Patoka, Shell hits 1
xAK Alabaman, Shell hits 1
xAK Alaskan
xAK Arkansan

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He tried to ambush my fleet at Tarakan from Balikapan....his bombers are repulsed with heavy losses and no gains...

Morning Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 13

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 10:23:41 PM

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Your grab of Tsuyun is a very big deal in my eyes. Qball made a serious mistake by leaving it undefended. Kweiyang is the key to all of central China and to lose it early is a total disaster for the Allied player. Good Allied play means that these two cities should be held well through 1943. Even if he throws you out, he will be in a seriously bad position. Against a determined Japanese attack, the Allied player needs to hold China for a long as possible, and this area is critical for that. I would use every thing I have in China to exploit this opening that he has given you.

You might just hold because as you know the exp and morale of Chinese units at this point of the war is just terrible.

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 10:29:56 PM

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 10:36:15 PM

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Your grab of Tsuyun is a very big deal in my eyes. Qball made a serious mistake by leaving it undefended. Kweiyang is the key to all of central China and to lose it early is a total disaster for the Allied player. Good Allied play means that these two cities should be held well through 1943. Even if he throws you out, he will be in a seriously bad position. Against a determined Japanese attack, the Allied player needs to hold China for a long as possible, and this area is critical for that. I would use every thing I have in China to exploit this opening that he has given you.

You might just hold because as you know the exp and morale of Chinese units at this point of the war is just terrible.

Yup, i consider it a bad mistake by QBall. It is in a good terrain and it's the beginning of the vital RR that leads to Changsha. My idea is to force now a double movement. A reinforced push to open a way from HK directly to Tsuyun, by conquering Liuchow and possibly Kweiling and a blitz manovre towards nanyang, possibly encircling large armies of chinese troops. If these two moves are done, i should be able to apply a strong indirect pressure on Chansga sector, so that he will have to decide wheater to hold there - and so expose the central china - or to abbandon it and try to estabilish a new defensive line in the north....

with a full regiment of the 38th Division, the whole defensive AV of Tsuyun should arrive up to 300 and forts are growing up fast, thanks to the 5th Guards eng regiment.... i don't think the chinese will be able to break my perimeter there before my armies open the way at Liuchow....

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 10:42:03 PM

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 10:42:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

Your grab of Tsuyun is a very big deal in my eyes. Qball made a serious mistake by leaving it undefended. Kweiyang is the key to all of central China and to lose it early is a total disaster for the Allied player. Good Allied play means that these two cities should be held well through 1943. Even if he throws you out, he will be in a seriously bad position. Against a determined Japanese attack, the Allied player needs to hold China for a long as possible, and this area is critical for that. I would use every thing I have in China to exploit this opening that he has given you.

You might just hold because as you know the exp and morale of Chinese units at this point of the war is just terrible.

I agree. This will help the whole SE collapse more quickly if you can keep a hold on Tuyun and continue to push toward Liuchow. Amazing he left so little up there. I'm guessing there must be a good number of troops still in Chunking but they'll take a while to get down there.

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 10:45:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: obvert

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

Your grab of Tsuyun is a very big deal in my eyes. Qball made a serious mistake by leaving it undefended. Kweiyang is the key to all of central China and to lose it early is a total disaster for the Allied player. Good Allied play means that these two cities should be held well through 1943. Even if he throws you out, he will be in a seriously bad position. Against a determined Japanese attack, the Allied player needs to hold China for a long as possible, and this area is critical for that. I would use every thing I have in China to exploit this opening that he has given you.

You might just hold because as you know the exp and morale of Chinese units at this point of the war is just terrible.

I agree. This will help the whole SE collapse more quickly if you can keep a hold on Tuyun and continue to push toward Liuchow. Amazing he left so little up there. I'm guessing there must be a good number of troops still in Chunking but they'll take a while to get down there.

With 4 tank units and another experienced regiments arriving at Canton we really should open the way towards Liuchow pretty fast. In open terrain and with a strong airbase nearby (Canton), Liuchow shouldn't be a great problem. Once liuchow is captured we could rail in enough troops to make Tsuyun a fortress. Then we'll be able to decide what to do with Changsha....i'd love to see it abbandoned but i guess QBall is too smart to do that...

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 11:14:42 PM

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If your plan works he'd be very smart to abandon Changsha and concentrate on better defensive territory. If you do get Liuchow and keep Tuyun this early he's in trouble. He'll likely have to pull back to Kweiyang and the area around Chihkiang.

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RE: No Escorts? - 7/31/2012 11:51:42 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 21, 42

A lucky non detonating dutch torp on the Hosho....man, that was close

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Sub attack near Taliaboe at 72,104

Japanese Ships
CVE Hosho
BB Haruna
CA Suzuya
CA Mogami
DD Ayanami
DD Nenohi
DD Karukaya
DD Fuyo
DD Hayate
DD Oite

Allied Ships
SS KVIII

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Allied cruisers bomb Adak...no damage reported a part from some support squads...

Night Naval bombardment of Adak Island at 162,52 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA New Orleans
CA Chicago
CA Portland
DD Selfridge
DD Porter

Japanese ground losses:
122 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Port hits 5

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Morning Air attack on 9th Indian Division, at 50,84 (Singapore)

we bombed singapore troops.... wow...seems like i'll be facing the same 1300 AVs obert faced in his first shock attack....

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 85
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 14 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Also attacking 22nd Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 11th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking III Indian Corps ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 22nd Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 11th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 22nd Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 22nd Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 11th Indian Division .....

But the river crossing south of Chengchow went really well. We destroyed 1 enemy corp and we trashed another one, opening a Gap in his perimeter! Now 1300 AVs of infantry will flow in, while my tanks will push westward! BANZAI!!!

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Ground combat at 87,45 (near Chengchow)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 7046 troops, 14 guns, 795 vehicles, Assault Value = 506

Defending force 4338 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 105

Japanese adjusted assault: 603

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 603 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
4641 casualties reported
Squads: 200 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 207 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 46 (46 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
12th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
1st Recon Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
20th Recon Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
8th Recon Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
10th Tank Regiment
26th Recon Regiment

Defending units:
48th Chinese Corps
7th New Chinese Corps

It seems that he's abbandoning Changsha area and Liuchow too...lots of units moving west and north!

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RE: No Escorts? - 8/1/2012 12:16:06 AM

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Keep the pressure on him in China.

For all of your fretting about time tables, you have accelerated your Chinese time table by at least an entire year.

If all goes well, you'll be sipping sake in India in no time!

Edit: If you think his units are in "move" or "strategic move" mode in that area, concentrate your bombers on them.

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RE: No Escorts? - 8/1/2012 12:58:28 AM

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Night Naval bombardment of Adak Island at 162,52 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA New Orleans
CA Chicago
CA Portland
DD Selfridge
DD Porter

This tells me he detached these ships from a CV TF to use for this mission. That number of American CAs this early in the war indicates this happened, IMO. So, he still has a CV in the Aleutians.

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RE: No Escorts? - 8/1/2012 6:24:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: TheLoneGunman

Keep the pressure on him in China.

For all of your fretting about time tables, you have accelerated your Chinese time table by at least an entire year.

If all goes well, you'll be sipping sake in India in no time!

Edit: If you think his units are in "move" or "strategic move" mode in that area, concentrate your bombers on them.

I'm trying to do that. India is a "mirage" at the moment, so i better not to even think about it. Better to concentrate on finishing the DEI in time and to keep on pushing in China. A decent China-dedicated strategy, at this point, could be a wise move for my first japanese campaign...

As you can see, it seems that he's moving back towards a new perimeter...let's see if these moves are just decoys or if it's about a general retreat... We'll enter with a division and an army HQ tomorrow in Liuchow, while a mixed Bde will enter in Kweiling, where he reinforced with 5 units. My goal, for the moment, is to make a road-block at Kweiling and concentrate on Liuchow. 6 artillery units and several tanks will arrive shortly, along with some more infantry