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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 10/22/2012 7:01:25 PM   
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Yet another useful site: http://home.arcor.de/sturmbrigade/Abkurzungsverzeichnis/Abkurzungsverzeichnis1.htm

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/2/2012 12:01:16 AM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/2/2012 12:59:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		thanks, I believe to have it fixed now although with the danger of double-translating AG (from OB) to HG. It'll need some further testing. I'll upload the most recent working copy of the translation file soon.

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/3/2012 5:33:38 PM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/3/2012 5:43:23 PM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/3/2012 9:38:32 PM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/3/2012 9:53:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suggest to open a new thread for german manual mistakes (list may be very long) but I don't think there's a plan to work on it. Even with access to the source docs this is way too much work.
I asked Jim about the Sturm division, this may be just a small OB name prefix/suffix change.
I'll look into the An:/Zu: issue.

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/4/2012 9:25:06 AM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/4/2012 6:43:02 PM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/4/2012 7:32:42 PM   
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One of the issues I can't fix.

Lack of differentiation of variables (again)?

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/4/2012 8:33:47 PM   
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Lack of differentiation of variables (again)?
I don't know but we have to live with it.

Attached to this post is the most recent working copy of translation.csv with a detailed changelog. File has to be considered a beta release that needs thorough testing. I did not have the time for one of my usual human/human testgames into at least 43 to verify all the changes.


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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/6/2012 9:19:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		CR -> Orte -> columns 'NachsE' & 'SprtE': Why not 'NachsB' + 'SprtB'?

+ tab 'Industrie': column 'Pnz' as 'Waffenfabriken...'?

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/6/2012 10:23:10 PM   
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+ tab 'Industrie': column 'Pnz' as 'Waffenfabriken...'?
Arm used in english, no separate translation entry for this

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ORIGINAL: dave_wolf
CR -> Orte -> columns 'NachsE' & 'SprtE': Why not 'NachsB' + 'SprtB'?
As above, no separate entry for the usage in unit and location details, probably because received and requested both start with "r".

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/18/2012 9:37:47 AM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/18/2012 3:48:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Su-85/-100 are not called Sturmgeschütz but the units they are in. Any idea for a better name? Sfl-Brigade instead of StuG-Brigade?

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/18/2012 4:24:05 PM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/18/2012 11:43:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		SU = Samokhodnaya Ustanovka = self-propelled carriage
Light SU units consists of SU-76 so could be called light Pzj (Panzerjäger).
Medium SU are usually TD except one using SU-122 AG.
Heavy SU are using heavy AG.

Hmmm, I probably revert to SU for these units. This would also avoid confusion with SU used in unit title bar and StuG in HQ menu.

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/19/2012 3:24:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Several Soviet front names are wrong.

Nördlich Front > Nordfront (e.g.: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordfront_%28Rote_Armee%29)
Nordwesten F. > Nordwestf.
Westlich > West
Südwestlich > Südwest
Südlich > Süd
Steppe > Steppen

Also, can you change 'Separat Armee' to 'Separate Armee'?

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/19/2012 10:28:43 PM   
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Separat may be a problem as well, not only used by army but also by Bde or Rgt.

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/22/2012 7:16:05 PM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 11/23/2012 5:38:31 AM   
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"Fld. Trg." divisions (e.g. GC43: 153. at Krim Armee) are supposed to be "Feldausbildungs"-Div's, right? If so, any chance to translate this in-game?
I look into it but I assume we have to live with the partial translation (once unit is actively selected a proper translation is shown)

EDIT: seems to work.

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 12/14/2012 8:42:01 PM   
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Too literal, out of context and just wrong.

Guderian's original expression "Gefecht der verbundenen Waffen" refers to a way of fighting. No German staff officer would call an organizational structure this way.

Something like "gemischte Truppen" makes much more sense.

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 12/14/2012 11:17:45 PM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 12/14/2012 11:32:14 PM   
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I'll take a look at HQ naming.
To get the most recent version posted in this thread fully compatible with the latest beta, add the two lines below to translation.csv

22591,Italian Forces Surrender!!!,27,,0,0,Italienische Kapitulation!!!,,,,,,,
22592,%s (%s) WITHDRAWS,17,,0,0,%s (%s) AUF DEM RÜCKZUG,,,,,,,


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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 12/20/2012 11:23:29 PM   
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Let's see what I can do this weekend to get all changes in.

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 12/22/2012 12:31:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Another update to the working copy, please report any errors like text overlaps or unusual/missing translations. Amongst other fixes it contains now the two missing strings from WitE 1.06.23

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 1/23/2013 4:40:20 AM   
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This could be considered a final version as the major issues should be fixed now.
An update may only be required for new scenarios.

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 7/3/2013 2:01:13 PM   
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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 12/18/2013 10:59:04 AM   
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Aktuelle Version angehängt - sollte die meisten neuen Einheiten der Lost Battles Erweiterung beinhalten + andere Fehlerbehebungen.

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RE: German translation reworked - überarbeitete deutsch... - 12/2/2014 11:13:00 PM   
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'41 GC: "8. Ung. Grenze Guard Brigade" -> unit info; tooltip shows '...Grenzwachen...'

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Gre


How about Grenzschutzbrigade abbreviated to Gr.Sch.Br , as it is listed in the German Military Abbreviations.pdf posted by Oberst_Klink?
In this example "8. Ung.Gr.Sch.Br".

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