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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/5/2017 9:31:33 PM   
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KB South: On the possibility that this carrier force is bound for the South China Sea, I'm re-routing a number of LST TFs and a couple of TFs with higher-value ships (APDs and LSDs).





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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/5/2017 9:36:11 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/5/2017 9:54:26 PM   
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Fancy Pants & Funnel Cakes: The Allies take Canton and continue prep for the coming "end game" battles in Korea, North China, and over the Home Islands....all within the framework of being prepared for John's countermeasures.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/6/2017 4:40:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		How many attacks in Canton do you think before this pocket is cleaned up? Once you free 5000 AV the IJ will have to invest more to keep pace.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/6/2017 7:19:57 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/6/2017 7:21:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		John just sent the new turn with one of the strangest email messages he's ever included. This was the entirety of it: "Take this bad boy and good luck with it."

In all the years I've played with him, I haven't seen something like this before. It's not clear whether he's referring to this turn, but my hunch is that he isn't. I think this is tantamount to announcement that something big is in the offing, probably for the following turn.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/6/2017 8:47:48 PM   
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John just sent the new turn with one of the strangest email messages he's ever included. This was the entirety of it: "Take this bad boy and good luck with it."

In all the years I've played with him, I haven't seen something like this before. It's not clear whether he's referring to this turn, but my hunch is that he isn't. I think this is tantamount to announcement that something big is in the offing, probably for the following turn.

I agree with your assessment of the meaning of that message. "Bad boy" is typical John language for having put together a powerful force somewhere.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/6/2017 9:15:15 PM   
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I agree with your assessment of the meaning of that message. "Bad boy" is typical John language for having put together a powerful force somewhere.

Where? John has run out of places to fight and his chances of putting together a meaningful surprise are nil. It's the Kaiserschlacht, The German Spring Offensive of 1918. Everyone knows it's coming and it going to be everything. Tighter your helmet strap, hunker down and let him huff and puff until he finds the brick house and then roll him up after he has exhausted himself. Where can he push you back to? Prepare to play defense for 20 turns and then it is over.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/6/2017 9:38:54 PM   
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Fancy Pants: Allied 2:1 attack almost takes Tsinan.

Funnel Cakes: Gunzan airfield went to 7 and Allied sweeps and B-24Js hit Keijo airfield and CAP effectively.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/6/2017 9:44:47 PM   
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On my wife's side, the extended family - from Colorado, Texas, Tennessee, Illinois and Georgia - gathered Friday evening at the old home place in rural Georgia. With a few exceptions, there were really two age groups present - those in their 50s and those in their 20s and early 30s. That led to an interesting discussion about generational gaps in knowledge. I brought up one name: Typhoid Mary. Every person in the 50s age group had at least heard of Typhoid Mary. Not a single member of the 20s/30s group had, and this included an Air Force Academy graduate (and currently a member of the faculty).

I bet most of you guys have heard of Typhoid Mary. But here's a question: Has John Dillworth been to the place here ashes were buried/disposed of?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/6/2017 11:50:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		not disposed of as far as I know. She is in St Raymond's cemetery right next to the Throgs Neck bridge in the Bronx I used to pass every day on the way to work. It's on the list. I'll be up that way Next Wednesday I can swing by and get a photo.

Thanks for recalling my strange hobby! St Raymonds is not a picturesque cemetery so I have not yet visited. But since you like history and like to walk I can offer a little assignment. Sign up at Find A Grave. You put your address in and if someone wants a photo of a grave in your neck of the woods you may get an email asking you to find it if you can. I've helped out a bunch of amateur genealogists and I've found a couple of veterans graves for fellow soldiers they once served with. Those were pretty rewarding

BTW, if you are a podcast guy or want to listen on a computer there is a good oral history of Typhoid Mary here. Good story tellers http://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2015/09/the-curious-case-of-typhoid-mary.html

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/8/2017 2:05:16 AM   
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Funnel Cakes: With the airfield now at level 7, engineers at Gunzan are also working on forts. Temporarily, Gunazan will be responsible for it's own security, anchored by three combat TFs. Death Star is going to move southwest, to the China Coast, to monitor things there more carefully. Death Star strike aircraft sortied vs. shipping at Fusan to bad effect, costing the Allies roughly 50 naval aircraft. I've done a decent job of avoiding these situations but failed in this instance.

Fancy Pants: Deliberate attack at Tsinan comes off at 2:1 and drops forts to 0. This base will fall tomorrow. I definitely think the Allied army will divide, half holding this position and half moving to the coast to take Tsingtao and Chefoo (preparatory to later boarding ships to augment the Korea campaign, where supply will be more readily available).

John deployed a stout combat TF flagged by Kongo to raid shipping lanes near Ningpo. He forgot to switch off "Remain on Station," so it hung up there. But none of my strike aircraft were set to naval strike, the threat of something coming being low and the likelihood of a CAP trap (KB) if it did being high. John's email message: "You know how we have dozens of clicks every turn?  Don’t you hate it when you miss a BIG ONE??!!  You got an offering this round buddy!  A total of ¼ of the remaining Surface strength of the Kaigun did not get its stay in hex button unpushed."


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/8/2017 2:03:09 PM   
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Fancy Pants & Funnel Cakes: Shift in Allied strategy. Death Star moving to the China Coast in response to perceived threat. I think John's plan is/was to strike hard against China/Formosa while DS has been stationed in the Yellow Sea. And even as the move was implemented, an enemy carrier force showed up at Formosa and a separate naval battle took place near Ningpo. Overall it was a productive day for the Allies.






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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/8/2017 9:05:02 PM   
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Fancy Pants & Funnel Cakes: Heavy skirmishing near Formosa, but nobody's landed a telling blow yet.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/10/2017 9:00:07 PM   
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Fancy Pants & Funnel Cakes: Lots of combat ships and carriers moving around from the Sea of Japan to the South China Sea. John is dancing and darting, trying to sting here and there. I'm maintaining station to protect the vital bases while looking toward the next big supply run that will allow Korea to turn into an offensive base of operations.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 12:35:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		You've been extremely disciplined about keeping your main carrier force on its primary mission at all times. Do you think it might be worth a roll of the dice on a high speed run to try to catch the Japanese CV force?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 11:56:28 AM   
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JWolf, I'd send Death Star after KB under the right circumstances.

The primary mission remains to protect Gunzan, Korea, and the big ports/airfields at Shanghai, Ningpo and Taichu. But under the right circumstances, Death Star would be used offensively.

The limiting factor right now is fuel (see graphic, for an example). Staying power is far more important than whether I get a few enemy carriers or more. Fuel is at a critical state. Most of the carrier TFs had the capital ships topped off a few days ago, but escorts are getting low. And the accompanying combat TFs are really getting low.

I have a big AO TF at Taichu waiting to refuel all combat TFs (and to top off the carriers). That will take place in about two days.





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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 12:00:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		My fleet carriers have essentially been at sea since September 1943 without meaningful time in port (a couple of days at Townsville for some, a few days now and then at Manila for others). None of them have upgraded since leaving Pearl Harbor, so some are still due for 10/43 upgrades. Yet SYS damage is minimal for every carrier. Mainly, that's because I haven't used Full Speed during the ensuing 1.5 years (1.5 years at sea in combat conditions!). In fact, I'm not sure I ever used Full Speed for Death Star (but I did recently use it for the Little Death Star in SoPac on successive days in that effort to ambush KB South).

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 12:05:10 PM   
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John mistimed a shock attack aiming for a solo tank batallion..

This happened so many times before, it looks like deliberate strategy now :) Wonder why John keeps biting the hook here

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 12:07:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		He succeeds every now and then, destroying a small and isolated unit. But it has bit him repeatedly, as you note. Overall, he's blunted a great deal of fighting power in failed shock attacks with a series of important failures, especially in China.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 12:28:34 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 1:04:46 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 6:55:15 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 7:16:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		You'd think that would be the case, but I don't think it is. Or, perhaps I should say, what the younger generation and their teachers think is important doesn't include things we'd consider important.

I've noted in here before that we had a certain prodigy graduate from our local semi-rural high school. The guy is brilliant. He got a master's degree in marine law from a Taiwan University - of all things! - and then a master's degree in Chinese from Indiana University. He speaks Spanish and French fluently and is decent with German, Polish, Korean, and a number of other languages. He loves reading and learning.

....and he's never heard of Pickett's Charge or the German ship Bismarck. I would be shocked if he had heard of Typhoid Mary.

He should be the exception to the rule - the 1% that knows nearly everything. But the gaps in his historical knowledge are beyond immense.


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 7:37:18 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 8:05:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had a colleague in college, sophomore year of an Aerospace Engineering degree - that couldn't point to a pulley in a picture of a gear mechanism... but he knew the math on how they worked.

Also, side bar - but something like 6 kids scored a perfect score on the ACT in 1990. One went to my high school (small rural school) - he would calculate the geometric sin, cos, and tangent in his head instead of using a calculator during tests in high school. He joined the Army after high school, haven't heard from him since.

The other kid that scored perfect - one of my good college friends - very very intelligent, graduated with 2 degrees with high honors (one was Genetics, I forgot the other), but hasn't had a decent job in over 20 years. He couldn't "stand" to be a "lab assistant" and do the "grunt work" as a "wet behind the ears college grad" working for someone with "half his intelligence". He expected to walk in and be boss of a university dep't "as a 22 year old college grad". He'd insult all his bosses intellect, call them stupid with stupid ideas, and alas - he sits at home, plays video games all day, lives off his mom's SS, and sells pot to a few select people for 'spending money' on top of the odd manual labor "rake the leaves / clean the gutters" kind of job.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/11/2017 8:27:16 PM   
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You'd think that would be the case, but I don't think it is. Or, perhaps I should say, what the younger generation and their teachers think is important doesn't include things we'd consider important.

I've noted in here before that we had a certain prodigy graduate from our local semi-rural high school. The guy is brilliant. He got a master's degree in marine law from a Taiwan University - of all things! - and then a master's degree in Chinese from Indiana University. He speaks Spanish and French fluently and is decent with German, Polish, Korean, and a number of other languages. He loves reading and learning.

....and he's never heard of Pickett's Charge or the German ship Bismarck. I would be shocked if he had heard of Typhoid Mary.

He should be the exception to the rule - the 1% that knows nearly everything. But the gaps in his historical knowledge are beyond immense.


I've always thought that a broad knowledge of history, geography. basic economics and political science is necessary to understand how the world works. With that understanding you can assess those who seek to serve the nation or represent your country and make your informed choice at the ballot box. If I sought greater knowledge in the pure sciences I have very little chance of influencing what they are doing. Thus I follow current affairs much more so than science and technology news, but I find some recent science discoveries fascinating (thank you, Neil deGrasse Tyson!).

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/12/2017 4:23:59 AM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/12/2017 7:51:00 AM   
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EDIT: My high school counselor related a cautionary tale about the youngest janitor at the school. Apparently he was a straight-A student at the school, went to the University of Iowa, and received his first B in the first semester. He couldn't take that B, dropped out and became a janitor at his old high school.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 12/12/2017 12:43:27 PM   
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KB West: Enemy carrier force raiding in the South China Sea, where the only potential victims (LSTs and APDs) are trying to take evasive action. Also of note in this theater of operations: the invasion of Hainan Island is getting underway and the Allied advance in Malaya is progressing methodically but, given the awful terrain and road system, slowly.





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