Matrix Games Forums

 Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

Unassailable base

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> Tech Support >> Unassailable base Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 3:16:08 AM   
Quixote


Posts: 773
Joined: 8/14/2008
From: Maryland
Status: offline 		Michael,
Playing with the Beta (which may or may not matter for this one) I found an island base that Japan is unable to invade. Kalao, a dot-base island in the DEI near Kendari, will not permit amphibious invasions. I'm attaching a screenshot and a save. FYI, I did try targeting the same base with other TFs but got the same error, so I don't think it's a bug with just the TF I'm using. It probably won't affect very many games, but in case you find a few minutes any time in the near future to take a look, I'll post it anyway. Thanks (yet again.) -Alex






Attachment (1)
Post #: 1
RE: Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 3:16:57 AM   
Quixote


Posts: 773
Joined: 8/14/2008
From: Maryland
Status: offline 		And the save.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Quixote)
Post #: 2
RE: Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 3:30:22 AM   
witpqs


Posts: 26087
Joined: 10/4/2004
From: Argleton
Status: offline 		Sounds like an issue with the pwhex file set. That hex might be configured to bar amphibious landings.

_____________________________

Intel Monkey: https://sites.google.com/view/staffmonkeys/home

(in reply to Quixote)
Post #: 3
RE: Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 7:17:22 AM   
obvert


Posts: 14050
Joined: 1/17/2011
From: PDX (and now) London, UK
Status: offline 		I tried this one too, and found the same. At the time I think we were using the official patch.

The rowboat corps got it eventually in my game and if I wanted to put something there the flying boats worked fine.

_____________________________

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill

(in reply to witpqs)
Post #: 4
RE: Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 9:38:41 AM   
Mike Solli


Posts: 15792
Joined: 10/18/2000
From: the flight deck of the Zuikaku
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert

I tried this one too, and found the same. At the time I think we were using the official patch.

The rowboat corps got it eventually in my game and if I wanted to put something there the flying boats worked fine.


I had exactly the same issue and solution.

_____________________________


Created by the amazing Dixie

(in reply to obvert)
Post #: 5
RE: Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 11:21:45 AM   
KenchiSulla


Posts: 2948
Joined: 10/22/2008
From: the Netherlands
Status: offline 		WOOHOOO, dispatching troops to occupy it now!!!!!

_____________________________

AKA Cannonfodder

"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
¯ Primo Levi, writer, holocaust survivor

(in reply to Mike Solli)
Post #: 6
RE: Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 11:22:38 AM   
KenchiSulla


Posts: 2948
Joined: 10/22/2008
From: the Netherlands
Status: offline 		O wait, can't unload there either :(... Your in luck Quixote

_____________________________

AKA Cannonfodder

"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
¯ Primo Levi, writer, holocaust survivor

(in reply to KenchiSulla)
Post #: 7
RE: Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 12:29:28 PM   
HansBolter


Posts: 7704
Joined: 7/6/2006
From: United States
Status: offline 		Surprised non of you experts thought of the obvious........drop a paratroop on it!

_____________________________

Hans


(in reply to KenchiSulla)
Post #: 8
RE: Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 1:06:59 PM   
Mike Solli


Posts: 15792
Joined: 10/18/2000
From: the flight deck of the Zuikaku
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Surprised non of you experts thought of the obvious........drop a paratroop on it!


I thought of that but had more important missions for the paratroopers. Plus, How do you get them off? The only way I can think of is using flying boat transports. They weren't in the area and it wasn't worth moving them there just to take a dot hex.

_____________________________


Created by the amazing Dixie

(in reply to HansBolter)
Post #: 9
RE: Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 3:07:55 PM   
HansBolter


Posts: 7704
Joined: 7/6/2006
From: United States
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli


quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Surprised non of you experts thought of the obvious........drop a paratroop on it!


I thought of that but had more important missions for the paratroopers. Plus, How do you get them off? The only way I can think of is using flying boat transports. They weren't in the area and it wasn't worth moving them there just to take a dot hex.


Yes, flying boats on a "pick up" from remote location would be the way to get them off afterward.

All moot since the rowboat corps osmosis method of gaining control worked just fine for you.

< Message edited by HansBolter -- 10/10/2013 3:18:14 PM >

_____________________________

Hans


(in reply to Mike Solli)
Post #: 10
RE: Unassailable base - 10/10/2013 4:12:13 PM   
witpqs


Posts: 26087
Joined: 10/4/2004
From: Argleton
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli


quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Surprised non of you experts thought of the obvious........drop a paratroop on it!


I thought of that but had more important missions for the paratroopers. Plus, How do you get them off? The only way I can think of is using flying boat transports. They weren't in the area and it wasn't worth moving them there just to take a dot hex.

I'm only guessing, but perhaps it being a friendly base would be different than a hostile amphibious operation??

_____________________________

Intel Monkey: https://sites.google.com/view/staffmonkeys/home

(in reply to Mike Solli)
Post #: 11
RE: Unassailable base - 10/11/2013 12:39:24 AM   
Kull


Posts: 2625
Joined: 7/3/2007
From: El Paso, TX
Status: offline 		Just so you know, this is not a bug (as noted in this 2011 thread):

quote:

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

There is a "no amphib possible" attribute for a hex. It means that terrain or surf or something will prevent amphib ops at that location.

You could use parachute operations or just leave it. Undefended locations will usually switch over.


_____________________________

AE-Japan Setup

AE-Allied Setup

Japan Air-Engine Plan

(in reply to witpqs)
Post #: 12
RE: Unassailable base - 10/11/2013 3:02:14 PM   
Quixote


Posts: 773
Joined: 8/14/2008
From: Maryland
Status: offline 		Thanks Kull - I hadn't seen that thread before.

I understand what Don is saying, but I also wonder why this was applied solely to Kaloatoa out of all the island bases in the game. Every picture I can find of the island shows it with pretty beaches that look ideal for wading ashore. Since my Indonesian is pretty rusty (or non-existent), I don't know if there are swarms of predatory sharks swimming through massive coral reefs just offshore in these pictures just by reading the captions, but at first glance, it's certainly no Pointe du Hoc...

(I see the logic behind making some hexes unassailable, but I still suspect it was applied to this base in error.)

(in reply to Kull)
Post #: 13
RE: Unassailable base - 10/11/2013 4:22:20 PM   
Kull


Posts: 2625
Joined: 7/3/2007
From: El Paso, TX
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Quixote

Thanks Kull - I hadn't seen that thread before.

I understand what Don is saying, but I also wonder why this was applied solely to Kaloatoa out of all the island bases in the game. Every picture I can find of the island shows it with pretty beaches that look ideal for wading ashore. Since my Indonesian is pretty rusty (or non-existent), I don't know if there are swarms of predatory sharks swimming through massive coral reefs just offshore in these pictures just by reading the captions, but at first glance, it's certainly no Pointe du Hoc...

(I see the logic behind making some hexes unassailable, but I still suspect it was applied to this base in error.)


The name in Indonesian is Pulau Kalao, and after spending some time checking it on Google Earth, I'd have to agree that it doesn't look particularly unassailable. It's interesting to know that there's a "no amphib possible" hex attribute, but this island wouldn't seem to fit the bill. Most likely it was something inserted for testing purposes, and nobody picked up on the fact it was still there in the final release. And given the strategic importance of Kalao in game (LOL), one can see why it's not at the top of the "must fix" lists.

I'm more curious about the team's decision not to make wider use of this attribute. Probably since there are so few available base hexes in game when compared to how many there *could* be, it was just one of those ideas that didn't turn out to be very useful. (i.e. if you really want to make a hex unavailable for amphib, just don't make it a base hex)

< Message edited by Kull -- 10/11/2013 4:23:03 PM >

_____________________________

AE-Japan Setup

AE-Allied Setup

Japan Air-Engine Plan

(in reply to Quixote)
Post #: 14
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> Tech Support >> Unassailable base Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

0.844