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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 7:36:52 AM

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Which is dangerous to wait if Germany can score the 2 impulse knock out, then Russian can't occupy eastern Poland.

With the way the game works in that regard, I don't know if its possible for the CW to get the extra pilots or not simply because I don't think the Russians can wait the extra impulse. Russia having eastern Poland is more important than the CW getting a couple of pilots.

this is incorrect. the only thing that can prevent the Soviets from occupying Eastern Poland is the end of the turn. Even if Germany has taken both Lodz and Warsaw, fulfilling the conditions for conquest of Poland, the Soviets can still enter eastern Poland on any Allied impulse before the conquest phase.

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Okay - got it!

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 7:40:46 AM

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Nov / Dec 1939
Impulse: 12

The Germans rather rubbish attack in the Low Countries allows Gamelin to adopt his favoured Plan D, and push British and French troops up to the Dyle. This will take the British outside of the range of the RAF but they will have the river to assist their defence.

The Admiralty orders the Home Fleet, led by the Flagship HMS Nelson, to sail into the North Sea. The cruiser Enterprise provides picket-duty. The Fleet's shore bombardment factors could be important in the coming impulses....

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 7:45:47 AM

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Nov / Dec 1939
Impulse: 12

Meanwhile, the Chinese begin to concentrate around Hengyang. This Japanese build up in the south looks serious, and there are enemy troops headed for Wuhan too.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 7:55:59 AM

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Impulse: 12

ARRRGGHHH!!!

What a missed opportunity! OF course the British moving into Belgium means the FTC issue is no longer there.. I could have got some better land units in Belgium had I thought. This game is just so rich in options, strategies etc. You really need to THINK!!

Anyway, what's done is done. The Allies complete their march into Belgium and now pray to the god of turn ending for the right result

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 8:01:00 AM

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Impulse: 15

....but the gods weren't listening! Either that or they were, but were tuned in to Radio Berlin FM...

The only good news is that the weather is blizzard - that should at least help the defenders.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 8:17:11 AM

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Impulse: 15

The German Army resumes the offensive, 26th Infantry Corps marches into Rotterdam and the Dutch shipping there sails for Portsmouth. The Germans could have got two good attacks in - one on Amsterdam and one against Brussels. However, the -3 column for Blizzard makes these simply too risky to contemplate.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 8:32:47 AM

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Impulse: 18

Amazing! a 9 is thrown and the turn does not end. The British put some reinforcements to sea for onward transmission to Belgium. There is little else to do.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 8:35:37 AM

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Impulse: 21

Wow - an 80% chance of ending the turn...but we continue! The weather is Storm which is still a two notch reduction in combat levels. Need to think about what to do here.

Edit: No, with the shore defensive factors available to the Dutch, its just not worth taking the chance.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 1:17:01 PM

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Nov / Dec 1939
Impulse: End of Turn

And finally the turn draws to a close.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 1:20:56 PM

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Nov / Dec 1939
End of Turn: Production

Germany:
Infantry
2 x Pilot
2 x Land Air
Mechanised

Italy:
Pilot
Submarine

Japan:
Zuikaku
Armour
Carrier

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 1:25:52 PM

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End of Turn: Production

China:
Infantry
Pilot

CW:
HMS Formidable
HMS Duke of York
Naval Air
Pilot

France:
Fighter
Pilot

USA:
Hornet
South Dakota
Indiana
AMPH
Pilot

USSR:
2 x Infantry
Pilot

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 1:31:08 PM

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Jan/Feb 1940
Reinforcement

Germany:
The Germans decide to up-gun the Gneisenau.
They receive just an Infantry this turn.

Italy:
Receive nothing

Japan:
Hiei
2 x Infantry

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 1:36:57 PM

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Reinforcement

China:
Communist Infantry

CW:
DoY, Anson and a submarine join the Construction Pool
Belgian Militia
Dutch Militia
Batavian Militia
Hurricane
1st South African Corps

France:
Potez 631

USA:
Saratoga, Maryland, Colorado

USSR:
2 x Infantry

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 1:39:49 PM

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Weather and Initiative

Well that could be crucial. The Axis won the initiative, the Allies ordered a re-roll - and won it back! The Allies will go first. How crucial could that prove?

The weather is not too bad - Rain in Europe and Fine in southern China....

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 1:50:20 PM

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Which is dangerous to wait if Germany can score the 2 impulse knock out, then Russian can't occupy eastern Poland.

With the way the game works in that regard, I don't know if its possible for the CW to get the extra pilots or not simply because I don't think the Russians can wait the extra impulse. Russia having eastern Poland is more important than the CW getting a couple of pilots.

this is incorrect. the only thing that can prevent the Soviets from occupying Eastern Poland is the end of the turn. Even if Germany has taken both Lodz and Warsaw, fulfilling the conditions for conquest of Poland, the Soviets can still enter eastern Poland on any Allied impulse before the conquest phase.

Hmm. I may have to double check this and Brian may be right from the standpoint I know if the Russians don't enter Poland soon, then they won't be able to. Polish conquest takes place at the end of the turn, so that may well be the case. Sorry on that!

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 1:54:19 PM

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Impulse: 1

The Royal Navy - with some assistance from their Dutch counterparts, sortie into the North Sea and pick up more reinforcements.

Otherwise the western Allies and the Chinese content themselves with making last minute adjustments to their positions in readiness of the big attack...

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 2:03:38 PM

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And here it is.....but first we set the scene. The Dutch and Belgians have both received reinforcements and the British have landed the troops they put to sea toward the end of the last turn.

This means we have the following in Holland:

10 points (and three units) of troops in Amsterdam plus a pesky 3-2 Militia in the north, ready to pounce on disorganised aircraft.....

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 2:08:24 PM

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Meanwhile, chez Belgique (how sophisticated am I?) the Allies have an 11-point, two unit stack in both Brussels and Antwerp. Behind them are Gort and the Brussels Militia.
IF the British/Belgian/Dutch forces can blunt the Germans, then there are three powerful British Army units in the North Sea waiting to land. This next attack is just about as important as they get!!

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 2:58:33 PM

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Adolf Hitler was bad enough, but it seems that the beloved Baldrick is in command of the Heer this time around.

Both Belgium and the Netherlands on the same turn? On impulse 9 in Nov/Dec? No attack on Amsterdam?

What was the plan?

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 3:22:06 PM

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Adolf Hitler was bad enough, but it seems that the beloved Baldrick is in command of the Heer this time around.

Both Belgium and the Netherlands on the same turn? On impulse 9 in Nov/Dec? No attack on Amsterdam?

What was the plan?

warspite1

Er..I'm learning the game...

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 3:33:49 PM

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Out of curiosity, did the Allies make their minor support role for Belgium? Sure looks like the French got four corps there by turn's end.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 4:03:21 PM

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Adolf Hitler was bad enough, but it seems that the beloved Baldrick is in command of the Heer this time around.

Both Belgium and the Netherlands on the same turn? On impulse 9 in Nov/Dec? No attack on Amsterdam?

What was the plan?

warspite1

Er..I'm learning the game...

No worries!

I'd hoped that the Baldrick reference would suffice to keep the tone light. May have failed at that.

But seriously, in broad strokes, did you expect to conquer one or both in that same turn? You could have taken out The Netherlands; one impulse (with surprise) is sufficient for that. Next impulse, having taken out The Netherlands, and being able to move from Rotterdam to Antwerp, makes Belgium's set up somewhat more problematic and no matter how they set up at that point you have a chance to conquer in one impulse (may not always succeed depending on the usual 1000 factors of WiF).

Not criticizing your play, just wondering what the plan was.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 4:31:48 PM

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Nov/Dec 1939
Impulse: 9
Right - enough is enough. The Germans declare war. Adolf gives the usual turgid rant to a select group of generals at No.3 The Beerhall, Munich:
"Fellow Germans. As you know, I am a peaceful person, I am a tolerant person. In fact there's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures..... and the Dutch".
[Cue much applause]
"For this reason I attack Holland tomorrow...what? oh yes, and Belgium too".

Obviously it was all part of the plan to entrap the Allies in the Low Countries. Soon we will see a grand sweeping assault into the Maginot line and the continuation of ludendorff's 1918 offensive.

OH Wait!!! ummm yeah... Someone pass me another Beer.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 4:36:06 PM

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If those Brits have half a brain, they will stop the Germans on the Dyle.

Fun AAR so far

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 6:05:46 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939
End of Turn

Two Partisans appear - one in Poland and one in Indo-China. The Polish one is placed in Katowice to disrupt the resourse.

Did you leave no (organized) German units in Poland? 3 in garrison value would have been enough to stop partisans from appearing in Poland during 39. You need to leave some units in Poland anyway to keep USSR honest.

Next year 6 is needed to stop partisans appearing in Poland.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 6:23:02 PM

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Out of curiosity, did the Allies make their minor support role for Belgium? Sure looks like the French got four corps there by turn's end.

warspite1

What does "make their minor support role for Belgium" mean please? Thanks.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 6:24:20 PM

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Adolf Hitler was bad enough, but it seems that the beloved Baldrick is in command of the Heer this time around.

Both Belgium and the Netherlands on the same turn? On impulse 9 in Nov/Dec? No attack on Amsterdam?

What was the plan?

warspite1

Er..I'm learning the game...

No worries!

I'd hoped that the Baldrick reference would suffice to keep the tone light. May have failed at that.

But seriously, in broad strokes, did you expect to conquer one or both in that same turn? You could have taken out The Netherlands; one impulse (with surprise) is sufficient for that. Next impulse, having taken out The Netherlands, and being able to move from Rotterdam to Antwerp, makes Belgium's set up somewhat more problematic and no matter how they set up at that point you have a chance to conquer in one impulse (may not always succeed depending on the usual 1000 factors of WiF).

Not criticizing your play, just wondering what the plan was.

warspite1

It was a plan so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it a weasel... in other words, no plan at all....

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 6:25:20 PM

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Nov/Dec 1939
Impulse: 9
Right - enough is enough. The Germans declare war. Adolf gives the usual turgid rant to a select group of generals at No.3 The Beerhall, Munich:
"Fellow Germans. As you know, I am a peaceful person, I am a tolerant person. In fact there's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures..... and the Dutch".
[Cue much applause]
"For this reason I attack Holland tomorrow...what? oh yes, and Belgium too".

Obviously it was all part of the plan to entrap the Allies in the Low Countries. Soon we will see a grand sweeping assault into the Maginot line and the continuation of ludendorff's 1918 offensive.

OH Wait!!! ummm yeah... Someone pass me another Beer.

warspite1

To be honest, if the Germans get the dice in their favour that's exactly what this could achieve. If the dice fall elsewhere however....

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 6:26:29 PM

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If those Brits have half a brain, they will stop the Germans on the Dyle.

Fun AAR so far

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But of course! Plan D - how could it possibly go wrong

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse II The Sequel - 12/15/2013 6:27:11 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939
End of Turn

Two Partisans appear - one in Poland and one in Indo-China. The Polish one is placed in Katowice to disrupt the resourse.

Did you leave no (organized) German units in Poland? 3 in garrison value would have been enough to stop partisans from appearing in Poland during 39. You need to leave some units in Poland anyway to keep USSR honest.

Next year 6 is needed to stop partisans appearing in Poland.