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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 2:00:39 AM   
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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 3:13:18 AM   
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I always preferred Geno's to Pat's.




Your wish is my command FJeff Geno's steaks is diagonal from Pat's steaks about 40 yards away.

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 3:15:44 AM   
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The reason I wanted to show this picture is because of his sign, read the the sign lower right, caused quite a stir in the tri - state area, Pennsylvania, New jersey and Delaware.

What he is saying is that you cannot order your steak sandwhich in Dutch or Swedish

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 5:54:09 AM   
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This was the owner Joey Vento who died in 2011.

The reason I wanted to show this picture is because of his sign, read the the sign lower right, caused quite a stir in the tri - state area, Pennsylvania, New jersey and Delaware.

What he is saying is that you cannot order your steak sandwhich in Dutch or Swedish

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To forumites from across the pond a question:

The "tri-state area". Why do Americans use that term so much? I assume it can mean any three states? Why tri-state not bi-state or quad-state? Or are those terms used?

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 5:58:45 AM   
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You almost spoke German,
I wonder what would have happened early 20th century if that had been the case.

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 8:49:47 AM   
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http://www.watzmann.net/scg/german-by-one-vote.html

You almost spoke German,
I wonder what would have happened early 20th century if that had been the case.


We wouldn't have had to translate our declaration of war against Imperial Germany?

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 12:10:49 PM   
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http://www.watzmann.net/scg/german-by-one-vote.html

You almost spoke German,
I wonder what would have happened early 20th century if that had been the case.


We wouldn't have had to translate our declaration of war against Imperial Germany?


Some say a language is reflection of a people's soul/culture/other intangeable stuff. That is probably the reason US english is slowly growing away from British english. If that is so, would there be a feedback loop when you take over a language??

Nice answer BTW

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 4:06:01 PM   
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Ok serious now, People who were born in the Philadelphia area tend to stay in that area, those that left some went to live in Delaware but most of them moved to New Jersey and its beautiful beaches on the Atlantic shore. There is a lot of cooperation in law enforcement, infrastructure, school systems between these three states.

Pennsylvania has New York to the North and Ohio to the west which is like distant cousins, "glad to see you once in awhile kind a thing" So I guess it is called that because there is so much cooperation between the three states. Maybe one of our Congress reps. could answer that better than I can.

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 4:27:20 PM   
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http://www.watzmann.net/scg/german-by-one-vote.html

You almost spoke German,
I wonder what would have happened early 20th century if that had been the case.


Awsome AxeINL, great find never saw that before. Truthfully my two favorite words are Verboten and Achtung, just something warm and fuzzy about them.

Bo

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 4:31:48 PM   
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http://www.watzmann.net/scg/german-by-one-vote.html

You almost spoke German,
I wonder what would have happened early 20th century if that had been the case.


We wouldn't have had to translate our declaration of war against Imperial Germany?


Some say a language is reflection of a people's soul/culture/other intangeable stuff. That is probably the reason US english is slowly growing away from British english. If that is so, would there be a feedback loop when you take over a language??

Nice answer BTW


Not sure of that one my friend but I know one thing we wanted to get away from that Cockney accent thats for sure

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 4:39:30 PM   
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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 4:50:03 PM   
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The German language is indeed warm and fuzzy.





LOL, Orm that song and the girl are warm and fuzzy, but wasnt there a song Dear Adolf liked, Wagner's Ride of the Walkure, which was not warm and fuzzy it was about evil and death.

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 4:55:39 PM   
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My point is that every language can be about evil and death and that is the way many people know the German language. But as every language can be about evil and death the German language can also be as warm and fuzzy as any other language.

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 5:06:02 PM   
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My reply was a joke but at the same time I tried to make a point.

My point is that every language can be about evil and death and that is the way many people know the German language. But as every language can be about evil and death the German language can also be as warm and fuzzy as any other language.


As always my friend your point was well taken and appreciated, but there is a slight differnce at least to me when someone says "attention" or someone says "Achtung, I think I would tend to listen more carefully to the person who said Achtung Then again maybe it is the second world war movies that make me feel that way.

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 5:30:02 PM   
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My reply was a joke but at the same time I tried to make a point.

My point is that every language can be about evil and death and that is the way many people know the German language. But as every language can be about evil and death the German language can also be as warm and fuzzy as any other language.


You should listen to a Dutchman swearing. With our gutteral use of the 'g' and 'r' it is easy to understand why in a typical Hollywood movie there are sometimes Dutch actors playing the Russian villains (no offense for our Russian friends here, I hope).

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 5:43:59 PM   
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My reply was a joke but at the same time I tried to make a point.

My point is that every language can be about evil and death and that is the way many people know the German language. But as every language can be about evil and death the German language can also be as warm and fuzzy as any other language.


You should listen to a Dutchman swearing. With our gutteral use of the 'g' and 'r' it is easy to understand why in a typical Hollywood movie there are sometimes Dutch actors playing the Russian villains (no offense for our Russian friends here, I hope).

I like to watch Hollywood movies. But sometimes it gets a tiny bit annoying how they select villains.

I feel that we have gotten a tiny bit off topic now. What was the original topic anyway?

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 5:45:07 PM   
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My reply was a joke but at the same time I tried to make a point.

My point is that every language can be about evil and death and that is the way many people know the German language. But as every language can be about evil and death the German language can also be as warm and fuzzy as any other language.


As always my friend your point was well taken and appreciated, but there is a slight differnce at least to me when someone says "attention" or someone says "Achtung, I think I would tend to listen more carefully to the person who said Achtung Then again maybe it is the second world war movies that make me feel that way.

Bo


When looking at bootcamp sequences of US war movies, the "attention" turns usually into "ten-tiun" in a voice a typical samurai would not be ashamed off. A lot of the effect is how you say it. Compare how japanese women vs. men are voicing their language. But there are languages where that would be more difficult, The Welsh version of Celtic comes to mind - but our British friends have probably more to say about that.
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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 5:49:57 PM   
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My reply was a joke but at the same time I tried to make a point.

My point is that every language can be about evil and death and that is the way many people know the German language. But as every language can be about evil and death the German language can also be as warm and fuzzy as any other language.


As always my friend your point was well taken and appreciated, but there is a slight differnce at least to me when someone says "attention" or someone says "Achtung, I think I would tend to listen more carefully to the person who said Achtung Then again maybe it is the second world war movies that make me feel that way.

Bo


When looking at bootcamp sequences of US war movies, the "attention" turns usually into "ten-tiun" in a voice a typical samurai would not be ashamed off. A lot of the effect is how you say it. Compare how japanese women vs. men are voicing their language. But there are languages where that would be more difficult, The Welsh version of Celtic comes to mind - but our British friends have probably more to say about that.
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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 6:10:29 PM   
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I feel that we have gotten a tiny bit off topic now. What was the original topic anyway?


I'm looking forward to Bo's continued tour of Food and Drink of Philly.

Especially the upcoming "Philly Craft Beer Festival". I want to know how many beers were tasted of the 75+.

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The Philly Craft Beer Festival has been called as one of the “Top 10 Beer Festivals in America” by Forbes Traveler.
Experience more than 75 of the best craft breweries from around the block, around the country, and around the globe who will be on hand to offer samples of their finest brewing achievements.

http://www.myphillyalive.com/blog/experiencing-tasty-craft-beers-at-philly-craft-beer-festival/





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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 6:44:50 PM   
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I feel that we have gotten a tiny bit off topic now. What was the original topic anyway?


I'm looking forward to Bo's continued tour of Food and Drink of Philly.

Especially the upcoming "Philly Craft Beer Festival". I want to know how many beers were tasted of the 75+.

quote:

The Philly Craft Beer Festival has been called as one of the “Top 10 Beer Festivals in America” by Forbes Traveler.
Experience more than 75 of the best craft breweries from around the block, around the country, and around the globe who will be on hand to offer samples of their finest brewing achievements.

http://www.myphillyalive.com/blog/experiencing-tasty-craft-beers-at-philly-craft-beer-festival/






Ahhhh. Can you go with Bo and see that he gets a good beer, instead of Budweiser? You would make my day...

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/26/2014 7:22:06 PM   
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I feel that we have gotten a tiny bit off topic now. What was the original topic anyway?


I'm looking forward to Bo's continued tour of Food and Drink of Philly.

Especially the upcoming "Philly Craft Beer Festival". I want to know how many beers were tasted of the 75+.

quote:

The Philly Craft Beer Festival has been called as one of the “Top 10 Beer Festivals in America” by Forbes Traveler.
Experience more than 75 of the best craft breweries from around the block, around the country, and around the globe who will be on hand to offer samples of their finest brewing achievements.

http://www.myphillyalive.com/blog/experiencing-tasty-craft-beers-at-philly-craft-beer-festival/






Ahhhh. Can you go with Bo and see that he gets a good beer, instead of Budweiser? You would make my day...



Good lord I did not even know about the festival, I live a very sheltered life, Peter is right would someone please go with me and introduce me to some high quality beers, if it wasn't for Peter I would still be in the dark ages about beer

Orm we are so far off track we may never get back to two half maps

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/27/2014 1:11:23 AM   
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I think things would have turned out a bit differently if German had become the dominant language in the U.S.

Very large numbers of German immigrants came to Australia in the last half of the 19th Century. German surnames are still very common, as are natural blondes Mostly people just don't think about it, even if they do realise the origin of the surname.

Especially in inland Australia, there were many "Germantowns" and German names for settlements but most changed their name to something more British sounding during WW1. The "beastly Hun" and all that...

I think we could have done with more Scandinavian immigration too, like the American Mid-West

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/27/2014 1:17:42 AM   
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I believe Bismark said that the most important thing about the 20th Century would be..."The fact that the North Americans speak English".

I think things would have turned out a bit differently if German had become the dominant language in the U.S.

Very large numbers of German immigrants came to Australia in the last half of the 19th Century. German surnames are still very common, as are natural blondes Mostly people just don't think about it, even if they do realise the origin of the surname.

Especially in inland Australia, there were many "Germantowns" and German names for settlements but most changed their name to something more British sounding during WW1. The "beastly Hun" and all that...

I think we could have done with more Scandinavian immigration too, like the American Mid-West

Cheers, Neilster



Good lord Neilster you forced my hand I was born in Germantown a section of north Philadelphia, you mentioning Germantowns brought that back to me.

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 2/27/2014 3:20:31 AM   
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Hope you get out to the beer festival. Looks like a lot of fun. I'll get a Victory Beer and drink it 1 March down in Pacific beach, So Cal.
Have one on me.

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 4/13/2014 2:31:36 AM   
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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 4/13/2014 5:28:26 AM   
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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 4/13/2014 3:04:27 PM   
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@Warspite: The terms "Tri-State", "Bi-State", etc are more descriptors of a given region than anything else. There are many "Tri-State" areas in the US. Part of the Chicago area interstate highway system is known as the Tri-State because the region has part of Northern Indiana, Illinois, and part of Southern Wisconsin. Here in St Louis, the mass transit system was known as Bi-State because it operated in the St Louis area and across the river in Illinois. The area is known as the "Bi-State" area. There are many examples of this across the country.

How visible German immigrants were changed dramatically with WW1 and to lessor extent, WW2. The Missouri area was a popular German immigrant destination. There are several still sounding German towns like Hermann. Rott road is the name of a road in St Louis county. There is a German district in St Louis (Baden). The Hermann area is interesting from the standpoint that it is a popular area for growing grapes and producing wine.

My Moms side of the family comes from the Quad Cities, which was a popular Scandinavian immigration location, especially Swedish. From what I see, the Scandinavians preferred to settle in the northern parts of the US. Many residents of Minnesota especially can trace their roots to Scandinavia.

As far as "English" goes, well I am not sure what people in Philly call English with as thick of an accent as many of them have. To me, it is interesting to hear people speak with different accents and try to place where they are from. New England English sounds a lot different from the English in the South, which is different from upper Midwest. Canadian English is another category as well. Most Midwestern types speak an English that can't really be traced by accent other than someplace in America. (I have been overseas several times and talked to different people from different parts of the US and Canada and they generally have no clue where I grew up and live at where someone from New England is very easy to determine).

As far as the single map scenarios go; yes, I would like to see them soon. I don't know if it makes a difference or not, but I have the feeling that the overwhelming choice between the two is to get the European map going first, then worry about the Pacific later.

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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 4/13/2014 4:32:27 PM   
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Got to this thread a bit late, but would like to weigh in on a few things since it sort of got derailed.

@Warspite: The terms "Tri-State", "Bi-State", etc are more descriptors of a given region than anything else. There are many "Tri-State" areas in the US. Part of the Chicago area interstate highway system is known as the Tri-State because the region has part of Northern Indiana, Illinois, and part of Southern Wisconsin. Here in St Louis, the mass transit system was known as Bi-State because it operated in the St Louis area and across the river in Illinois. The area is known as the "Bi-State" area. There are many examples of this across the country.

warspite1

Thank-you. I heard this yet again the other day - never heard of bi-state - only ever tri-state and was just curious...




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RE: Two Map Scenarios - 4/14/2014 6:23:58 PM   
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Any word on the two map scenarios. I'm sure Philadelphia and its cuisine (and the various other matters discussed in this thread) are interesting and worthy topics. Perhaps they should have their own threads.


My deat Johnnie you cannot eat WIF but you sure can eat a good Pats cheese steak, your right the 2 map scenarios got hijacked but IMHO every post gets hijacked.

Bo

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