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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 1:57:59 AM

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I've been lurking around these forums for years now - about time I posted something.

Go back to your original posts at the start of this epic, Lowpe. One of the reasons you get so many views for this AAR is your erudite, thoughtful use of pictures and general all round skill. The "days" of the turns might look dark today and in the future, for your little pixels, but your entertaining wit and style has kept many a player waiting for updates i'm sure. I know I have :)

I'd dread to be your opponent in a Scen 2 game, I know that much, let alone what you inherited here and have managed to do to this point. Keep smiling.

Thanks.

I really should have stuck to my original plan. Oh well, we shall see what I can salvage...

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 2:10:09 AM

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Send your opponent a 'Tokyo Rose' email announcing a great Imperial victory!

Why not?

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 2:40:47 AM

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Send your opponent a 'Tokyo Rose' email announcing a great Imperial victory!

Why not?

Done...excellent idea. Outplayed, and trashed I was.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 2:44:25 AM

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Back to plan A...

I have most of the fleet heading towards Truk. Some damaged light carriers are heading for Saipan to disband, along with some surface ships in a different taskforce under a land based air cap.

Maybe I can get away with something.

KB simply has to strike with surprise...my bad for deviating from my original plan. I could kick myself.

We shall see what happens...maybe some of my surface ships will close with his carriers and correct the day. Stranger things have been known to happen.

More updates with tomorrow's turn -- when I feel a little less sick at heart. There was some good news...reinforcements to the Bonins are safe, another IJA hvy division is moving into Iwo Jima. Troops headed to Yap and Ulithi...hopefully they will make it, not spotted, and no shipping that I can see at Perth.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 5:18:15 AM

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Wow, that sucks.

So your Alpha strike took off while he was covered in thunderstorms while his strikes didn�t take off until the weather cleared?

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 8:16:53 AM

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Ouch!

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 9:04:11 AM

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Look at it this way. If you tried nothing he takes the Marianas easily and bombs you to smithereens in 44. If you do something you have a chance to inflict damage and may have slowed him here even though the KB strike didn't work out.

You can't do anything about the weather. We've all experienced this. Don't kick yourself for trying something here, as you had to at some point and the consensus is that this was a good time. It was. I think you were just not committed from the beginning and went in too lit up, as you say. DL makes a huge difference in these battles. Night search can even illuminate and keep some DL on TFs that are hidden by weather during the day search period.

Anyway, it is sickening to lose those CVs. Been there. You'll fight it off and still give him some licks back!

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 12:03:33 PM

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No turn this morning, which is a shame as I wanted to see what could escape.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 1:47:13 PM

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Unlucky. However the Allies owning the Marianas isn't too critical until April 44 when the B29s start to arrive, and even then they will be limited to night ops. However I would beef up the defences of the Bonin Is and Philippines if I were you.....

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 1:59:40 PM

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Unlucky. However the Allies owning the Marianas isn't too critical until April 44 when the B29s start to arrive, and even then they will be limited to night ops. However I would beef up the defences of the Bonin Is and Philippines if I were you.....

Yep, working on it. In a lot of ways the Bonins are more heavily protected now than the Tinian or Rota was. Definitely Rota. Also working on Daito, Naha and company, and trying to get something to Luzon.

You gave me the best advice on the the cap flying over CVs, and I didn't take it fully enough.

Set those CAP percentages very high when fights are likely.

I got a very nice email from the Allies...he is trying to take an hour's leave at work to do the turn or at least watch it fully. To say he is excited is an understatement. And, after all that is what this game is all about.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 2:28:02 PM

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Unlucky. However the Allies owning the Marianas isn't too critical until April 44 when the B29s start to arrive, and even then they will be limited to night ops. However I would beef up the defences of the Bonin Is and Philippines if I were you.....

I beg to disagree a bit here.

The Marianas isn�t only important because its within B29 reach of the HI. But its in fact the last stop before the PIs. Its only November 43. With Allied bases in the Marianas its not impossible we will see a full Allied invasion in the PIs as early as Feb/Mar 44. That is very, very bad news for Japan.

Not to mention it flanks the entire SWPAC/DEI area which would have been very useful to delay the Allies. As I said before the Marianas isn�t crucial for the Allies but I think its crucial for the Japanese not to have the Allies there too early.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 4:28:14 PM

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Unlucky. However the Allies owning the Marianas isn't too critical until April 44 when the B29s start to arrive, and even then they will be limited to night ops. However I would beef up the defences of the Bonin Is and Philippines if I were you.....

I beg to disagree a bit here.

The Marianas isn�t only important because its within B29 reach of the HI. But its in fact the last stop before the PIs. Its only November 43. With Allied bases in the Marianas its not impossible we will see a full Allied invasion in the PIs as early as Feb/Mar 44. That is very, very bad news for Japan.

Not to mention it flanks the entire SWPAC/DEI area which would have been very useful to delay the Allies. As I said before the Marianas isn�t crucial for the Allies but I think its crucial for the Japanese not to have the Allies there too early.

I hear you, but there is one big stretch of water inbetween them and the PI is one giant unsinkable a/c carrier......

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/24/2015 5:27:08 PM

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I hear you, but there is one big stretch of water inbetween them and the PI is one giant unsinkable a/c carrier......

Indeed!

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/25/2015 7:24:41 PM

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Nov 12, 1943

Lots of naval fights around the Marianas, IJN really holds their own against several aggressive PT boat TFs, sinking a dozen or so.

A small light cruiser destroyer squadron goes up against the big boys, 1 destroyer lost, and unfortunately no torpedo hits but they did launch them. Scary moment I am sure for the Allies.

Daytime came and the Allied air force cleaned up again for the paltry loss of 175 Allied carrier planes.

Looks like I got 4 fleet carriers away...we will see what tomorrow brings.

Well, on the bright side the Marianas has been a very big learning experience for me.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/25/2015 7:30:35 PM

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Iwo Jima: They should get a full heavy division tomorrow...bringing their AV to close to 800, 600 at HaHa, and 400 at ChiChi. HaHa will get a base force in about 1 week giving all three CD units of some type with Iwo having 2.

Almost all those troops were planned to go to the Marianas...what a difference the Nov 42 IJA reinforcements make and they are only just starting.

There is a huge AA reinforcement in April of 44. Looks like the HI will need them all!

Still holding on the Tuang Gyi road, but the Allies look to be moving another division in. I will probably evacuate back as the Uttaradit forces are looking very strong. No movement at Moulmein, but it is hard to tell if he is flanking or not despite lots of recon.

No ships at Perth...

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/26/2015 11:22:18 PM

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Nov 13, 1943

Trying to escape from the Marianas debacle...still.

Allies probed with two different destroyer task forces...some odds and ends attacked them, but one full sentai of Lilly divebombers hit them from 9 hexes with a nice Oscar escort...twice. One is listed as sunk, and the Lillies seem to be doing better versus Allied flak (1 lost to ops only). The 100 kilo sap seems to really knock out equipment...which is nice.

Sank a tanker off Port Blair with subs...shelled Cap Nicobar for good effect. Looks like the Allies have run out of fuel and supplies as they are pushing both into Port Blair.

Still holding on in the Tuang Gyi/Moulmein area.

Cap Trap over Bangkok with Tonies and Oscars shreds 20 of the hated Assault bombers at treetop levels. God, I hate those planes. Their target was a 5 ship convoy running supplies into Bangkok. He will probably sweep there with Jugs tomorrow, so I am sweeping Lashio with Georges to offset. Two can play that game!

700 AV at Iwo Jima...wish I would have had that at Tinian. One of the division is elite, with IJA 43 squads.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/26/2015 11:28:41 PM

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Myojo advances to December.

This plane should only cost half the HI since is was made mostly of wood.

I thought the landing gear jettisoned after takeoff...since it was to be a one way trip.

Japan only made 2...I am going to make hundreds. Yeah, the Judy is better, but not as intriguing!

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/26/2015 11:52:30 PM

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Myojo advances to December.

This plane should only cost half the HI since is was made mostly of wood.

I thought the landing gear jettisoned after takeoff...since it was to be a one way trip.

Japan only made 2...I am going to make hundreds. Yeah, the Judy is better, but not as intriguing!

Think how many more you can build at 1:72 scale!!!

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 12:30:07 AM

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Now that was very funny

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Myojo advances to December.

This plane should only cost half the HI since is was made mostly of wood.

I thought the landing gear jettisoned after takeoff...since it was to be a one way trip.

Japan only made 2...I am going to make hundreds. Yeah, the Judy is better, but not as intriguing!

Think how many more you can build at 1:72 scale!!!

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 1:31:55 AM

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Jeesh, it was funny but you don't have to keep repeating the picture.

If you saw what they ask for this model!

The Lilly dive bomber in action, ok it was an 8 hex raid.

Couldn't time my print screen correctly...

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 12:09:24 PM

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Some night bombing for no effect by both sides.

Allies have 4Es now in the Marianas, and the action is heating up as the Japan is in a world of hurt.

Near Saipan...

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 12:10:57 PM

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I guess the Allies are sending out Fletcher task forces, looking for stragglers or more likely setting up bombardment runs on my now front line bases.

Luckily the Lilly divebombers are on the job.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 12:12:28 PM

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The PI in peril...and no where close to being ready for an attack.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 12:18:46 PM

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In other happy and not so happy news around the Empire:

The Army beats off a 1-1 attack on the Tuang Gyi road 350 AV versus almost 2000 for the Allies (1600 afvs) and gets a 1-1 destroying 20 tanks and disabling 100 more. The real defence will be one hex north of Uttaradit which is digging in nicely and filling out...it will be tough nut to crack.

Massive sweeps and bombing of Bangkok, and the very low level Oscars actually shoot down some Jugs, and then some Venturas in the afternoon. The convoy there bounced around and didn't unload much, so I will send them to Singers where it is safer to unload.

George sweeps of Lashio cancelled for weather.

Allies sweep Saipan with Jugs and Hellcats at maximum altitude. I will have to abandon this airbase...

Allies bombard Guam, now a daily happening.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 1:08:49 PM

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Now would be a good time to suddenly discover an entire IJA Corp that you'd forgotten about.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 2:19:07 PM

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Hrm. How many PPs do you have?

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 4:49:24 PM

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Hrm. How many PPs do you have?

5-600, was trying to get another division bought out.

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 4:56:09 PM

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Here is Japan's paltry attempt at kicking the Allies off Great Nicobar.

I have been bombarding them with E's pretty much daily...they cause 60 casualties a day and damage everything. Only one small combat unit was here...but some AA, ENGs, etc too.

Tonight they will be bombarded with battleships, and cruisers, and destroyers. Oh my!

In the morning a horde of 200 Oscars and Tonies will deliver some 100 foot general purpose 250 kilogram gifts and lots of 20cm rounds to keep them company and a Sentai of Helens -- even more joy.

Then we shall attack.

So, I need the weather to cooperate, the dice gods to cooperate, the task forces to bombard. It is asking a lot.

Every time I try something like this, some critical aspect seems to fail. Hey, if it was easy, anyone could do it!

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/27/2015 9:31:09 PM

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Nov 15, 1943

Started the retreat from Port Moresby. I think I have time, as the Allied ships will most likely head back to Pearl for repairs and new plane models.

Many, many ships are added to the withdrawl from Kusaie, Ponape, Lower Solomons, Upper Solomons, Port Moresby and lower SRA. Not stripping the lower SRA, but reducing it. Most stuff out this way is heading to Luzon, Samar, Yap and company. New reinforcements from the HI are going closer to home.

My goal was to keep the oil flowing until Jan, and I think I will get there. My other goal was to keep the KB intact, and well you know how that turned out.

I did get a CVE today.

Attack at Great Nicobar reduces the Allied AV to 19. Will keep pounding it, fly LRCAP to nail transports, bomb and bombard it.

Tuang Gyi road holds again, but only to a bombardment attack where the heavy artillery there fires some great counter battery salvoes for 0 IJA loss and 2 guns for the Allies (probably mtn guns).

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RE: Invasion Marianas - 3/28/2015 2:52:53 AM

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Nov 16th, 1943

No night bombing of effect.

A costly mistake on my part costs me a destroyer and two light cruisers...they went into Port Blair and remained on station. The subsequent air attacks damaged the ships and that night as they attempted to get away they ran into the Prince of Wales

...back in action. The Allies must have been a little scared when the damaged IJN ships started launching torpedoes, but to no effect. In the morning they were attacked again by planes and finally 2 out of 4 were put down.

But at least some Jacks got into the fray and it cost the Allies many planes. I like Jacks, only have one squadron, but I might have enough in the pools to equip another smallish squadron of them.