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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/14/2015 1:00:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am assuming that when Bangkok falls the troops would currently retreat to the SE as that is the better supply path? As things currently stand.

Troops should arrive shortly to garrison Siem Repp. IJA 43 squads are unloading at Tourane (1/3rd of a Division).

I need more AA here...several units will rail out of Bangkok and secure the superhighway south of Ayuthia. Uttaradit has none, which is an oversight on my part as I didn't think I would still be fighting there.

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/14/2015 1:45:01 AM   
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I am assuming that when Bangkok falls the troops would currently retreat to the SE as that is the better supply path? As things currently stand.


Towards a friendly base, but into terrain that cost the least to move into...I think.

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/14/2015 2:54:40 AM   
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Lousy low altitude bomber run....probably going after ships, but who really know since they all go down, down, down.




The combat report will say something like "Attack on TF" in one case versus "Attack on [base name]" in the other case.

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/14/2015 10:30:36 AM   
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My xak near Formosa made port, but the fires consumed her.

The great struggle in in Thailand continues...I rerouted a large convoy of air bases, engineers from the original port of Manila to Camh Ran Bay. They will go to helping garrisoning Vietnam.

I am pulling back my naval guard from the lower SRA perimeter. 4-5 Units. I am leaving a well stocked air base with Air HQa and support to potentially get in a few licks should he try to move on them on the cheap -- really I have a chain of such airbases heading back to Luzon.

Trying to nail some of the Allied convoys in different places. One with Kamikazes, and the other with Betties.






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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/14/2015 10:39:56 AM   
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I am assuming that when Bangkok falls the troops would currently retreat to the SE as that is the better supply path? As things currently stand.


Towards a friendly base, but into terrain that cost the least to move into...I think.



My understanding, is that retreat path might follow the lowest supply path adjacent hex, which means it might follow a railroad track for example. No time to research it more right now....getting youngest son's head shaved, and by the end of the day he will be marching in a parade in step on the drill field. Well, that is tomorrow. Today we drive 7 hours and have some functions to go to.

Other son starts Ranger school; he might have women in his class. Who would have ever, ever thought that 25 years ago barring some apocalyptic great war. Well, maybe Gloria Vanderbilt? Bella Abzug?

Cheers. Empty nesters coming up, well kind of sort of empty nesters.

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/15/2015 12:44:03 AM   
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Just catching up. Congrats on the sons growing up-- mine just starting Kindergarten on wednesday (yikes!).

If the Allies are at 1.3 to 1 in VP's, there's still a great chance. As i retreat from Thailand I dream of some kind of counterattack maneuver, like Manstein against Kharkov in 1942. But given the land war model in this game, its hard to do anything but maneuver ponderously forward or backward in a well telegraphed fashion... Unless somebody has some ideas on how to counterattack an overextended British army on its past Bangkok?

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/15/2015 7:27:26 AM   
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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/15/2015 11:14:21 AM   
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We make a night time torpedo attack against two battleships at Hokkaido, and miss.

Allies bomb, bomb, bomb everywhere it seems. We manage to trade 11 2nd line fighters and 1 George for 7 Jugs over Singers.

I lose an xak of Luzon to a sub, that the escorts then force to the surface and sink. A destroyer damages another Yank sub badly off Formosa.

A good day for the retreat in Bangkok. Another good battle at Uttaradit, where we inflict 3 times the losses we suffer.

I see how to fight from Battambang on down, but the blocking positions on the western plains are just suicide for the Japan to defend as there is no retreat since the Allies have total control of the skies.

So, is holding here for a while worth shattering 3-4 divisions and assorted troops.?






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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/15/2015 11:17:59 AM   
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So, how long before you turn the sons room in to AE warplanning room?


Very funny! My wife has turned them into museums.

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/15/2015 11:19:40 AM   
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It seems like units always retreat to the least advantageous hex :)!

Just catching up. Congrats on the sons growing up-- mine just starting Kindergarten on wednesday (yikes!).

If the Allies are at 1.3 to 1 in VP's, there's still a great chance. As i retreat from Thailand I dream of some kind of counterattack maneuver, like Manstein against Kharkov in 1942. But given the land war model in this game, its hard to do anything but maneuver ponderously forward or backward in a well telegraphed fashion... Unless somebody has some ideas on how to counterattack an overextended British army on its past Bangkok?


I have so lost the air war in Burma/Thailand that there is very little chance of doing neat things like this. The counter attack at Uttaradit is about the best I can hope for.

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/15/2015 2:20:54 PM   
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So, how long before you turn the sons room in to AE warplanning room?


Very funny! My wife has turned them into museums.


I bet you arn´t even allowed to go in there because she thinks you will mess things up?

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/16/2015 2:11:22 PM   
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So, how long before you turn the sons room in to AE warplanning room?


Very funny! My wife has turned them into museums.


I bet you arn´t even allowed to go in there because she thinks you will mess things up?


I made a joke of the room becoming a museum; my wife informed me I was wrong. Nothing knew in that, but in reality to the room was now a shrine.



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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/16/2015 5:11:09 PM   
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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/16/2015 5:30:37 PM   
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I made a joke of the room becoming a museum; my wife informed me I was wrong. Nothing knew in that, but in reality to the room was now a shrine.


That informing I was wrong part sounds very familiar!

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/16/2015 9:12:49 PM   
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That informing I was wrong part sounds very familiar!


Its much easier to exist as a husband by assuming that your wife is always right!

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/16/2015 10:11:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn is away, and should be on a good routine until next Friday & Saturday & Sunday.

Set a few traps again, easy to forget what you are doing when you slow the pace down....I hope I didn't make any major mistakes.


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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/17/2015 3:00:22 PM   
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No night bombing.

Over Honshu, we drop 8 of the 4E beasts, but the Allies bomb several cities splitting my CAP and they are pretty effective. Bases all around Nagoya are hit. Strategic VP climbs past 20K for the Allies.

Our Kamikaze trap in the Kuriles flies into CVE planes and are shot down in mass.

Over in Malaya, Georges manage to down 8 Airacobras that were on strafing duty and 1 British Liberator.

At Bangkok, in an amazing feat of logistics, the 4th ID actually rails away from Bangkok and is now south of Battambang. The 1st Tank Division has a meeting engagement on the jungle super highway south of Ayuthia, and nobody controls any hex sides.

The primary defenders of Bangkok are in the open now, heading for Battambang. 4 Divisions, AA. Most artillery and lighter AA is back at Battambang or on the way to Saigon.

I have decided to try and hold the Battambang, the JR road, and the block east of Ayuthia. I think I can hold for a while; I believe I can extract some of the troops - especially the Battambang troops. Any additional time I hold allows the deeper defences more time to dig in and repair, plus I can get more troops into theatre, and retreat more from the perimeter.

This is a dangerous decision, but with no Amphibious threat yet, I think I can delay and I desperately need to delay.








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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/17/2015 3:23:18 PM   
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I've lost the war in Thailand as well-- just extricating the Japanese army to Vietnam has been a monumental survival effort. I feel like the Japanese player needs to wear a fireman hat by 1944, as most of your job is putting out fires and simply slowing their spread. It would be nice to get a vicious counterattack in on an unsuspecting Allied player. The Germans were incredibly good at doing that even as late as 1945 against the Russians


I think if you have the KB left, you can get in a good counter blow.

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/17/2015 6:54:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bangkok is in its last days as an Empire holding. The economy there is trashed, but the runways are great. What a pain that will be. I will have to count hexes and see what he can reach via heavy bomber.

It is my rear area ports and runways I worry about. I do worry a little about my HI and LI, but so far he has only hit them in Honshu. I do have some fighters at Hong Kong and Manilla and Camh Ran Bay.

Turn is away and I set a few traps in the air.


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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/17/2015 7:28:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just select the Bangkok hex, then use the mouse-over on all the bases you want the range to. No counting required!

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/17/2015 7:33:35 PM   
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Just select the Bangkok hex, then use the mouse-over on all the bases you want the range to. No counting required!


That is what I meant. I think the only time I actually counted hexes was for Kamikaze activation, and somebody put up a great graphic making the counting superfluous.

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/17/2015 11:02:02 PM   
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Just select the Bangkok hex, then use the mouse-over on all the bases you want the range to. No counting required!


That is what I meant. I think the only time I actually counted hexes was for Kamikaze activation, and somebody put up a great graphic making the counting superfluous.

Well. before Michael granted someone's request and implemented a mouse-over count I manually counted many, many times!

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/18/2015 2:00:54 AM   
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April half over, and I am being bombed by 40+ B29s. Downed 1 today.

Over Honshu, I trade 40 Franks and Georges for 25 Jugs + Spitfires. It is fun watching the J2M3 counter dive. I also bag several F6Fs, a P38 and the other odds and ends. 55 Japanese losses to 49 Allied.

Maebashi is hit hard.

Over in Thailand, Bangkok falls easily, only two static non combat units left. A single tank unit pursues across the river.

Holding the jungle super highway is the 1st Tank Division, and it matches strength against two Allied tank brigades and is handled roughly forcing a retreat. The 1st got absolutely pounded by aerial bombardment.

Most of the Japanese troops are one hex north of the Jungle, on the super highway to Battambang, where we hope to hold. Will be touch and go for a few days to get everyone back.

On the jungle road to the east of Ayuthia the Allies attack again, and lose over 190 AFVs, but 180 combat squads of brave Japanese troopers are disabled. I can reinforce and hold here...but now worry about the southern flank. Can I reinforce in time and dig in or will Allied tanks be running around my rear?




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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/18/2015 2:03:27 AM   
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So, not so ineffective bombing after all.

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/18/2015 2:05:42 AM   
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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/18/2015 4:21:52 AM   
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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/18/2015 1:31:07 PM   
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Any chance of bombarding Bangkok from the sea? He will soon have most of his air force there...


I do, and I do have plans to try it...although it could be very dangerous.

Turn is away, and running away below Bangkok. I forgot to mention the Allies invaded Uruppa in the Kuriles yesterday continuing their invasions all up and down the Kuriles. They invaded with a tank brigade.

Bought out another 1/3rd of a division from China (IJA 43 squads) and they will head to the Vinh area. More supplies being shipped out, more ships pulling troops back from the perimeter.


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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/18/2015 1:34:02 PM   
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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/18/2015 2:32:17 PM   
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I do, and I do have plans to try it...although it could be very dangerous.

Turn is away, and running away below Bangkok. I forgot to mention the Allies invaded Uruppa in the Kuriles yesterday continuing their invasions all up and down the Kuriles. They invaded with a tank brigade.

Bought out another 1/3rd of a division from China (IJA 43 squads) and they will head to the Vinh area. More supplies being shipped out, more ships pulling troops back from the perimeter.



Might be worth some risk. He will have to stage at least some of his fighters forward. Unless you built something else up that he has taken over they will have to go to Bangkok! Whats size is Bangkok now?

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock - 8/18/2015 3:00:07 PM   
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I think it's vital that you capitalize on your naval control of the Thai/Vietnamese coast. Any Allied units that wander into a coastal hex should be subjected to bombardment by the heaviest ships you can gather.


I my experience naval bombardments of non-base coastal hexes either don't launch or result in very little damage. I think the LCU is mode-knocked, but not sure.

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