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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/3/2014 6:14:30 PM   
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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/3/2014 11:39:36 PM   
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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/4/2014 12:49:30 AM   
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Can I ask for a list of LCU's on both sides at Prome?


Certainly. My infantry had forts 1 and a couple of them took it on the chin.






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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/4/2014 10:55:05 AM   
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Night bombing on Rangoon destroys a Mitchell on the ground, while AA downs a few planes over Prome.

Allies bomb Prome, and Japanese fighters contest the air and not much damage is done at all.

Then, the main event, what would the Allies do at Prome? They bombard, and a much more normal result occurs. Can't figure out this game at times.






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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/4/2014 11:03:58 AM   
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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/4/2014 10:05:47 PM   
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Finished off the r&d plane factory build for the Ki202. 14 size 30 roughly. Two of the factories have already repaired two points. Now, to keep them safe and build several size 10 AF on the HI both in contested areas and hopefully in safe areas. If Spidery's program is close to correct I can expect it early 1st qtr 1945.

A7M3-J Sam has 9 factories roughly size 30. It has 11 total repaired, with one factory size 4 and two at size 3.

These will be my endwar uber planes. I hope.

I should get the Tojo IIc sometime late March. I really feel the need for an armored fighter, as the IIa version just dies in droves while the A6M5c puts up a much stiffer fight.

I actually increased my production of the Tony, and will continue to use them in Burma until the Tojo IIc comes along, then it will be off to research the Ki100I with them.

KAI Dinah fighter is doing very well in a night fighting role. I am super pleased with this plane in that role. Other roles not so much.

Lilly IIb divebomber. In its one engagement it got overwhelmed by enemy CAP and suffered losses but penetrated the CAP but failed to score any hits. I have three Sentai now operating one each in Burma, Marshalls/Truk/Rabaul and Kuriles. It still is a very flexible bomber because of its range.

Carriers: Judy version one is on most of the Carriers, the A6M5c is on all of them, and I am planning to try and CAP Trap his planes in the Marshalls while I plant some mines at Jaluit.

Nicks: I am producing the A and B version, which have gotten chewed up by the Americans and British, but in turn have chewed up the Chinese really well with the added benefit of being able to strafe the Chinese too. No luck with them against Lightnings.

Lightning defense: Nothing seems to work real well, but the best I have come up with is to fly very low with different models and hope the A6M5c doesn't get the brunt of the dive attacks...if the Lightnings aren't sweeping they are much more manageable.







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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/4/2014 11:38:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've seen huge bombardments like that in the past as well. As a hardware engineer I'm inclined to believe that it is due to a bad register value being used for a calculation or some other bug in the running of the software. It's not like this game is bug free and I've encountered my share in the past (such as being able to control my opponents air units once) so this seems like the most probable cause.

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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/4/2014 11:51:46 PM   
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Can I ask for a list of LCU's on both sides at Prome?


Certainly. My infantry had forts 1 and a couple of them took it on the chin.








Well, that's quite the Allied stack, and more powerful than you'd think from the AV.

Plenty of Allied tanks (and probably good ones, if your oponent has managed his pools well), as well as USA infantry, and even a USMC unit!

You've got to give this stack a good kicking - heavy losses will put a dent in the Allied pools for quite some time. It's a powerful stack, but it's stuck in an open hex, and provided you can take Rangoon and the surrounding bases, you can isolate it from air support and pound them into dust.

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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/5/2014 12:56:18 AM   
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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/5/2014 9:46:03 AM   
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That's a huge investment of supply on the Ki-202.


14 factories of 30 equal 462.000 supplies to set-up and fully repair if my math doesn't fail me. If you add up the other factories that you are retooling, the supply for R&D is starting to get into the millions.
Did you make a full inventory of supplies spent/to be spent until 1945?

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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/5/2014 10:27:21 AM   
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That's a huge investment of supply on the Ki-202.


14 factories of 30 equal 462.000 supplies to set-up and fully repair if my math doesn't fail me. If you add up the other factories that you are retooling, the supply for R&D is starting to get into the millions.
Did you make a full inventory of supplies spent/to be spent until 1945?


I really don't have much of an r&d program left repairing other than those two, night fighters, and the odd ones I inherited like 130 size Frank r factory.

My Tojo IIc, Oscar IV, A6M5c, Tony KI100 are all done.

I am at 4.2 million supplies now and I am not planning on any more expenditures.

I am hoping these planes can help stave off the destruction of the industry on the HI temporarily, but long enough for a solid payback in supplies.

Of course, I am probably all wrong.












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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/5/2014 11:20:55 AM   
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Lost another bomber on a night run. Have now suspended all night bombing. Only 5 4E's attack in Burma, Allied planes exhausted I think. I have flown in a fresh Tojo squadron, and will add another 50 A6M5cs in two days when I will resume offensive sweeps.

If I have worn out the Allied bombers allowing my push from Magwe to get into the Jungle Ridge mostly intact, it will be worth all the planes lost.

Attempting a CAP trap in the Marshalls.

A very poor attack in the the central plains of China. Despite being bombed for weeks, and no flak showing up, the Chinese Corp gets supply for the battle, and I get a horrendous roll cutting my AV by 1/3 netting a 1-4 attack. Ugh.

Allied bombardment at Burma is fairly even. My Magwe push on the road is off and running to cross the river. I actually don't think they are spotted, as they don't show up during the combat replay. Wouldn't that be great!

No planes at Rangoon damaged during the bombardment. Two days running.




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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/5/2014 11:25:03 AM   
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The more guns and vehicles I can destroy here the better.

Funky report of the attacking forces.




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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/5/2014 11:32:23 AM   
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You've got to give this stack a good kicking - heavy losses will put a dent in the Allied pools for quite some time. It's a powerful stack, but it's stuck in an open hex, and provided you can take Rangoon and the surrounding bases, you can isolate it from air support and pound them into dust.


I am not taking Rangoon any time soon, but I am going to cut the supply road I think.

I think I have made a good start on attrition of the Allied air forces. No more planes based out of Prome, and fairly weak bombing this day. Lightnings active are down to 4. However, it is going to be slow and very bloody.

Next up will be a continuation of sweeps....



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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/5/2014 11:38:51 AM   
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I've seen huge bombardments like that in the past as well. As a hardware engineer I'm inclined to believe that it is due to a bad register value being used for a calculation or some other bug in the running of the software. It's not like this game is bug free and I've encountered my share in the past (such as being able to control my opponents air units once) so this seems like the most probable cause.


It was a nasty hit, and very inappropriate given followup bombardments.

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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/5/2014 11:53:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		My worst blunder so far. I honestly thought they had no supply, and were disrupted from constant bombing. Well, losing Zuikaku to a submarine and then a surface group was my biggest blunder so far. This is just the second biggest blunder.

My bad.




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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/5/2014 4:37:46 PM   
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This is from memory, but I believe I have over 250 in tracom which are all slated for night fighting duties. And I have roughly 750 or more in reserves....I have to double check to be more accurate.

Planes losses in the game are incredibly heavy 9000 Japanese, 7000 Allies, total 16,000. Wowzah!

For kamikazes are naval (high, low), experience, and defense the only important skills?


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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/6/2014 12:22:37 AM   
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Pilot reserves

This is from memory, but I believe I have over 250 in tracom which are all slated for night fighting duties. And I have roughly 750 or more in reserves....I have to double check to be more accurate.

Planes losses in the game are incredibly heavy 9000 Japanese, 7000 Allies, total 16,000. Wowzah!

For kamikazes are naval (high, low), experience, and defense the only important skills?



Low naval is the only skill that matters for Kami pilots. I believe no matter what altitude you set them to attack at, they will always rely on LowNav skill to hit the target.

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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/6/2014 6:51:21 AM   
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Pilot reserves

This is from memory, but I believe I have over 250 in tracom which are all slated for night fighting duties. And I have roughly 750 or more in reserves....I have to double check to be more accurate.

Planes losses in the game are incredibly heavy 9000 Japanese, 7000 Allies, total 16,000. Wowzah!

For kamikazes are naval (high, low), experience, and defense the only important skills?



Is that 750 total in reserves or just fighter reserve? Also, is that the number from when you look at the reserve pool or when you try and draw a pilot from reserves? The former seems to include many WIA pilots which I tend to discount.

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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/6/2014 10:41:46 AM   
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No night bombing.

5 4Es attack both Prome and the push from Magwe. We down 3...but the Lightning sweep returns in the afternoon, I am guessing poor morale led to a failed fly check in the morning, and they down 3 fighters for no loss on the Lightnings.

Bombardment goes well at Prome destroying tanks and guns.

My torpedo bombers don't fly against a spotted CV...sub attack on the Nestor there. Lilly IIb divebombers with escort were just within range and don't fly. Probably weather for the torpedo bombers and morale for the lilly IIb.

No CAP trap in the Marshalls, despite the bait being spotted.




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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/6/2014 11:24:13 AM   
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Low naval is the only skill that matters for Kami pilots. I believe no matter what altitude you set them to attack at, they will always rely on LowNav skill to hit the target.


Thanks.

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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/6/2014 11:28:28 AM   
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The former seems to include many WIA pilots which I tend to discount.


Oh, my! Quite a discrepancy. Thanks for pointing that out to me.


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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/7/2014 10:34:29 AM   
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Wow, March already.

No night attacks.

Two Allied sweeps, one in Burma the other in the Marshalls downs 8 Japanese fighters for no Allied losses. No Allied bombing.

In Burma, the Lilly IIb strikes a small convoy. This was a 8-9 hex attack...

It is great having Army pilots in this role, almost 50 percent of the bombs hit. This is perhaps the best it will ever get for the Lilly IIb, hitting fragile cargo ships unescorted.

Interesting the bomber pictured here is using SAP bombs...




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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/7/2014 10:43:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		The heavy guns at Prome start to deliver some damage to the Allied forces. This is exactly what I am hoping for, a constant grinding attrition of Allied afvs and guns -- which are slow to be replaced.






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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/7/2014 10:51:06 AM   
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The bigger picture.

Looks like we will have to fight to close the dirt supply road.

Mandalay is low on supplies because a full infantry division and a 1/3 of a RTA division just arrived.




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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/7/2014 11:18:04 AM   
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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/7/2014 5:06:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		In a stunning bit of advanced r&d goodness, I just now have activated the Nakajima -45 engine.

Good thing I won't get the Frank and George early.

I did build two size 30 factories for George and they are almost repaired -- maybe I will get them a month early.

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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/7/2014 9:05:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		About your China question above, I'd have to see a bigger picture. Can you post a larger shot of China?

The clock is ticking here, and I'd be thinking territory rather than cleaning up run-down Chinese units at the minute. You want the mountains especially. Are you there yet?

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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/8/2014 10:39:41 AM   
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Since the Lilly IIb divebomber did so well on the 1st of March flying out of Magwe, I figured the Allies would bomb Magwe. I had the Lillies relocate and beefed up the air defenses with a fresh Sentai of Tojo IIa's.

I was not disappointed...the bombers, flew and flew.

Allies bombed at 6000 feet but I didn't see any balloon damage.




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RE: Burma Bungle! - 8/8/2014 10:44:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Unfortunately the Lightning sweep is back up to 18 planes and comes in the afternoon, along with some other sweeps.

Damage to Magwe is 70% runway, 45% service.

The butcher's bill for the day:




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