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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 12:07:50 PM   
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February 2 - 4, 1942
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CALCUTTA FALLS!

INDIA: So, this sucks. I certainly thought that terrain would help more here, but the naval bombardments really added up and I was also mistaken the terrain could make up for the slow experience gain of Allied troops.

In spite of losing the 42k+ in troops and associated VPs, the one benefit of defending Calcutta was explained in an email from Nic about the city after capture: all of it's industry is wiped out, completely.

So I'm sure he's still pleased to bag those troops and the resulting points, crippling the British in India for a good while, but the economic boon for the IJ of taking the city may be negligible. Now the race is on to see if I can hold Karachi. Troops will be heading that way as soon as they can catch a train.

The KB shows up nearing the map edge close to Socotra. A TF along the edge is high-tailing it toward Diego Garcia. It should be fine barring a complete KB reverse move. All other ships moved to Abadan except for some small transports unloading supply at Karachi.

Pacific: The Yorktown starts off by going only two of the possible three hexes of her journey to PH on the 4th. She is in a 15 ship escort TF with three CAs and a three ship APD TF patrolling the hexes around her path, with another three ship DMS TF patrolling one hex out from the path. The Sara 1-2 hexes off providing ASW air support. Fingers crossed.

CHINA: After the Sian victory I've put all of the units involved into rest for a few days to try and get disablements repaired and to let supply to flow back in. I turned off fort building as well. Near Pingsiang 1100 AV of rested Chinese took on a brigade and lost big! Teaches me not to follow my own advice that the Chinese don't do well attacking in tough terrain against forts. No catastrophe, but two units will need some rest. They're moving to Henyang.

DEI: A few points off the refineries at Palembang are caused by bombers getting murdered and jettisoning bombs randomly as they tried to escape. There are now 80+ fighters here, so it's off limits for a while. I guess maybe for good. But again, he now has to defend it, and some damage was caused, so that is good. Wish it was oil points though. The B-17s need to get out fast, so once healed will fly to India.

SUBS: Trusty gets pounded at Diamond Harbor by DDs and then some PBs. I've found Japanese ASW to be pretty good already. About half of the subs from the PI and DEI have 15-30 float damage and need work in the dock.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 2, 42
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Night Naval bombardment of Calcutta at 52,37

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Myoko
CA Chokai
CL Kiso
CL Kinu
CL Naka
CL Sendai
DD Harukaze
DD Hatsuharu
DD Suzukaze
DD Samidare
DD Murasame
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
TB Kamo
TB Hato
TB Kasasagi
TB Hatsukari
TB Manazuru
TB Chidori
DMS W-19
DMS W-12
DMS W-2

Allied Ships
xAK Texan, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Testbank, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Oregonian, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL Illinoian, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Indianan, Shell hits 2, heavy damage
AMc Dacca, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
507 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 17 (2 destroyed, 15 disabled)


Heavy Industry hits 1
Manpower hits 1
Fires 51
Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 26
Port hits 8
Port supply hits 1

CA Nachi firing at 18th British Division

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
E13A1 Jake x 11
Ki-27b Nate x 23

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 10 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 destroyed by flak


Manpower hits 1
Fires 123


Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Hudson I bombing from 2000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Calcutta (52,37)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 81016 troops, 880 guns, 451 vehicles, Assault Value = 2193

Defending force 36573 troops, 283 guns, 461 vehicles, Assault Value = 877

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 1397

Allied adjusted defense: 1121

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2580 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 313 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 22 (1 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 24 (2 destroyed, 22 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1078 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 105 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 18 (5 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 93 (31 destroyed, 62 disabled)


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Ground combat at Malaybalay (80,90)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8067 troops, 99 guns, 111 vehicles, Assault Value = 265

Defending force 9744 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 325

Japanese adjusted assault: 101

Allied adjusted defense: 145

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
427 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 64 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (3 destroyed, 15 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
227 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment
Kure 2nd SNLF
5th Amphibious Brigade
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
3rd PA Constabulary Regiment
102nd PA Infantry Regiment
102nd PA Infantry Division
III Philippine Corps

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 3, 42
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Ground combat at 81,54 (near Hengyang)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27185 troops, 167 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1101

Defending force 6742 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 211

Allied adjusted assault: 301

Japanese adjusted defense: 239

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2295 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 169 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled


Assaulting units:
72nd Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
78th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
55th Infantry Brigade



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 4, 42
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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 52
Ki-27b Nate x 44

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 2
B-17E Fortress x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-339D: 1 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged


Manpower hits 1
Fires 369

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Calcutta (52,37)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 83776 troops, 930 guns, 479 vehicles, Assault Value = 2377

Defending force 34102 troops, 269 guns, 436 vehicles, Assault Value = 696

Japanese adjusted assault: 1452

Allied adjusted defense: 697

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Calcutta !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2306 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 117 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 37 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (2 destroyed, 11 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
42053 casualties reported
Squads: 1070 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1277 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 225 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 336 (336 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 649 (649 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Units destroyed 15


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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
Ki-27b Nate x 42

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ships Sunk:

TB Kiji is reported to have been sunk near Palembang on Dec 21, 1941
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The Brits are taking it on the chin in a big way. Not looking good over here.
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 12:33:44 PM   
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In light of the empty bag at Calcutta what do you consider the odds he heads for not Karachi but Bombay? Karachi is a long way now for not as much bang. Bombay still gives him a huge industrial center with less time and motion.

And no Line of Death.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 12:48:26 PM   
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In light of the empty bag at Calcutta what do you consider the odds he heads for not Karachi but Bombay? Karachi is a long way now for not as much bang. Bombay still gives him a huge industrial center with less time and motion.

And no Line of Death.


It would be a good move, and he knows I have to prioritize Karachi, so Bombay could suffer. It'll have level 4-5 forts but only about 250AV if I keep what is there now. As I've seen at Calcutta, 1000AV of poor experience Indian and one decent British unit can't hold at this point especially if I can't get the rest of the RAF to India. About 5 groups show up this week in addition to the two I have waiting at Aden now.

Nic has moved fast. One day of paradrop in Malaya has meant the timetable for the Allies is way behind. I was prioritizing the defense of India from the beginning and still I can't do anything to save the majority of it. The two sub hits on CVs didn't help, but the speed of action is what is getting him there now. Still, there are actions I can take, and the IO is still a big place. It'll be hard to shut the whole thing down, and it'll take a lot of fuel he may not win in India to run the KB to Karachi for an extended period. I'm trying to pile troops into Ledo in the hope the oil there gets damaged or destroyed as well.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 1:26:12 PM   
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One of the thing to be aware of, is the importance of Madras as source of reinforcements. I know that both Bombay and Karachi are vital, but some of your divisions come in at Madras in the near future. If in Japanese hands, the reinforcements will be delayed and probably come in at Karachi at a later date. I would look up what is coming in as reinforcements around India over the next few weeks.

I know that PP are precious at this time, but before he gets over towards Madras and has roaming Betty/Nells, spend PPs to get at least the heavy AA out of Ceylon. Especially that big AA brigade. You get one here and two in NZ. I use the "coastal" setting for TF paths to keep them hugging the coast. I know that parts of KB are hunting off the west coast, but you have plenty of xAKLs to spare.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 2:54:25 PM   
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One of the thing to be aware of, is the importance of Madras as source of reinforcements. I know that both Bombay and Karachi are vital, but some of your divisions come in at Madras in the near future. If in Japanese hands, the reinforcements will be delayed and probably come in at Karachi at a later date. I would look up what is coming in as reinforcements around India over the next few weeks.

I know that PP are precious at this time, but before he gets over towards Madras and has roaming Betty/Nells, spend PPs to get at least the heavy AA out of Ceylon. Especially that big AA brigade. You get one here and two in NZ. I use the "coastal" setting for TF paths to keep them hugging the coast. I know that parts of KB are hunting off the west coast, but you have plenty of xAKLs to spare.

I've been looking and to be honest I'd rather have those troops coming to Karachi later. How much later is the question?

I can't afford the AA right now. If I want to challenge in Cent PAC I need troops. Also Colombo will remain a sub base as long as I own it and that AA keeps it relatively safe. I've already moved all Ceylon troops there to hole up and prep for an invasion. I might not last long but the shipyard is priceless right now for getting subs in working condition.

Most all shipping has been sent off map, either at Cape Town, Aden or Abadan. If he's going all out for AV I can't afford to lose anything more without a very good strategic reason.



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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 3:54:13 PM   
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Bummer about Calcutta. It's worrisome how comparable the Indian troops are to the Chinese in terms of experience and morale.

I think Madras and Ceylon will be the next objectives over Bombay as they'll secure Nic's flank for some time. A quick capture of Ceylon means Combined Fleet can stick around indefinitely in the IO. However, I wouldn't rule out Nic taking a shot at Karachi now either. He may be emboldened by how easily Calcutta fell and contemplate trying to take all of India now. He knows he has to take Karachi to do so.

It's going to be interesting what he decides to do. Flush with victory will he gamble on India? He may not go all out for India, but knowing his pedigree I'd wager he's not about to let you off the hook just yet.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 4:01:09 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

One of the thing to be aware of, is the importance of Madras as source of reinforcements. I know that both Bombay and Karachi are vital, but some of your divisions come in at Madras in the near future. If in Japanese hands, the reinforcements will be delayed and probably come in at Karachi at a later date. I would look up what is coming in as reinforcements around India over the next few weeks.

I know that PP are precious at this time, but before he gets over towards Madras and has roaming Betty/Nells, spend PPs to get at least the heavy AA out of Ceylon. Especially that big AA brigade. You get one here and two in NZ. I use the "coastal" setting for TF paths to keep them hugging the coast. I know that parts of KB are hunting off the west coast, but you have plenty of xAKLs to spare.

I've been looking and to be honest I'd rather have those troops coming to Karachi later. How much later is the question?

I can't afford the AA right now. If I want to challenge in Cent PAC I need troops. Also Colombo will remain a sub base as long as I own it and that AA keeps it relatively safe. I've already moved all Ceylon troops there to hole up and prep for an invasion. I might not last long but the shipyard is priceless right now for getting subs in working condition.

Most all shipping has been sent off map, either at Cape Town, Aden or Abadan. If he's going all out for AV I can't afford to lose anything more without a very good strategic reason.




You had better check but just like Chungking, I do not think you get any of those troops anywhere until Madras is recaptured. I hope I am wrong since I am defending India as well but at a little later date). I am following your AAR but refraining from too much comment as I am reading Nic's as well.

Your losses are big since Commonwealth units are so hard to rebuild but you should recover. Funny how it works out. The loss of all of the tank units seems horrible but at this stage of the war they are all full of crappy tanks so their loss is not so big. If you had already filled them with valentines and grants the loss of them would have been a total disaster but you just buy them back cheaply, then change the HQ's cheaply and can then safely rebuild them in Aden. In the end you have the most powerful units in the game ready to take him in the rear. It is the loss of the British division that hurts the most. Almost impossible to rebuild a full British division. You will have to disband pretty much any independent brigade you get to do so.


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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 5:49:53 PM   
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Even good Japanese players neglect closing supply lines. They do not really have enough good search aircraft in the right spots early on. I choose my expendables and have better than 50% success re-supplying PI via DEI or Aust. I have also successfully re-supplied Wenchow from Seattle...volunteers only!!! My opponent never knew the latter was happening....when he spotted a small TF (I only used small TFs) he assumed they were runners from PI or somewhere. Most of these got through. I think there are huge dividends if you can hold PI a few more months. I wouldn't waste reinforcement LCUs in PI as the IJA can have it's hands full if the locals have supplies. I wouldn't try putting aircraft in there until they can be spared elsewhere. If you still have working bases in June a few dive bombers can be a hell of a surprise. You will need a base close enough to stage them in though.

Marcus and Wake: Your opponent should freak if you get Marcus! This will spur a large response...make it hard for him to recapture but I don't see it as sustainable in '42. Wake can be a really tpough nut for your opponent once his Amphib bonus done. It may well be close enough to be sustainable.

CVs: I note the plight of your wounded CVs. I would move their planes to somewhere like Suva and base them there during repairs. Frankly I do this with whole USA CV inventory until they get decent planes. Many IJN opponents freak and assume unspotted CVs lurking close by when they eventually do see the land based CV planes.

I wouldn't risk the CVs as escorts on any of these re-supply gambits, except maybe Wake. If you were to I would drop any bonmbers and load all the fighters you can carry cause with KB in India all you want to avoid are the Bettys and Nells.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 9:06:32 PM   
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Does anyone know about whether those Indian units will show up elsewhere if a base is taken? I can't imagine the reason to hold them back if the base is not available. They are still part of the OOB right? For Chinese units Chungking is different. That is mostly about regenerating units that had bee killed off. Not new ones.

I'll try a resupply just for kicks. It'll be interesting at least where it gets busted, but my guess would be between the Bonins and Marianas.

If the units to Madras, Bangalore and other locations don't come elsewhere once those are taken, I'm a bit screwed most likely.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 9:15:58 PM   
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Whew!!

Found it. All good. As long as I don't lose Bombay and Karachi.





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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 9:24:28 PM   
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Thanks, that takes a bit of worry off of me. And, now I know that I don't have to impale myself by defending Madras if it comes to that.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/12/2014 9:30:43 PM   
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Also, I just got proof when I saw the Viper Force, due to arrive at Rangoon, is actually slated for Aden now. This brings up another question though. Will those divisions switch it up and be scheduled to arrive off-map at Aden, making it more difficult to get them on it where needed?

There is not a lot of good stuff coming soon either, and the off-map Aussies really need to make it to Karachi!






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That is good news. At least you have operational freedom and not handcuffed with trying to defend Madras. Do you already have most elements of the Australian divisions at Karachi or are they still in Aden? Obviously with KB prowling nearby that could pose a problem if they are still in Aden.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/13/2014 5:52:23 AM   
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That is good news. At least you have operational freedom and not handcuffed with trying to defend Madras. Do you already have most elements of the Australian divisions at Karachi or are they still in Aden? Obviously with KB prowling nearby that could pose a problem if they are still in Aden.


I've got two of three from the first Aussie division, and the other hasn't started arriving as of yet. I'm sending most of that brigade into Karachi right now with a fast trip from Abadan. Yikes.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/13/2014 11:01:04 AM   
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Feb 5 - 7, 1942



SUBS: Around 20-25 subs are fanning out into the Indian Ocean. Their main goal is to scout for the KB in order to find it out of search range, but of course also to get a hit if possible. Out in the deep and away from LBA it should be easier to remain unseen and sneak in. The KB disappeared for one day on the 6th but showed up again on the line midway between Karachi and Socotra. By the 8th there will be some in range to make direct contact.

PI: A silly mistake by me in the PI. I've been playing turns a bit too quickly. GJ entices a fast pace, and I've fallen into that. I 'feinted' movement out of Manila to get him to move out of Clark, see what was left, or in movement, and try an attack there. Getting him to move worked perfectly, but I forgot to turn off my troops. They got smashed in Cabanatuan. Lost around 120 squads. Stupid. No more fast turns.

INDIA: With the awareness that units set to arrive at Madras and elsewhere actually will go to Karachi or Bombay, I am sending all Madras units to Bombay to defend that base. If I can hold there, for even a while, that will extend the defenses of India. It again is a risk, but the farther the IJA is drawn into India the more vulnerable they become (assuming I can avoid AV). Bombay is holding a ton of supply and fuel, and will be a good place for these units to work up to full strength as well. It should still take some time for the IJA to make it this far, and with the division arriving at Bangalore soon heading over as well, that would bring AV to around 1200 in the next two weeks. I know, the same as Calcutta, but with more time to build forts and prepare, and with less opportunity to use overwhelming air and sea bombardments.

I gambled and sent two transports with most of an Aussie brigade to Karachi. They're scheduled to arrive on the 9th. They're at full speed, so should 'appear' at Karachi itself after speeding in off the map edge. I've got 75 fighters at Karachi to LR CAP just in case. Nervous times.

Pacific: A sub, the I-10, was located near the Yorktown by the SCTF next to it. Yikes! Three big ASW TFs and the cruisers will converge on the path of the escort TF and the Sara's fighters will LR CAP at 6k to try to hit the Glen.

CHINA: Pingsiang gets to level 3 again. The IJA is sending a brigade to try and flank to the South. I'll try to bomb with Lysanders to slow them while I send in a Corps to try and claim the hex.

The IJA stopped outside Sian and did not retreat farther after we did not pursue. This is good as it will take much longer to repair while out in the open. Sian is stuck at 3.86 and hasn't gone up in forts in 3 days since the big attack there. Supply is mostly going to units it seems. At least Chunking is still using it's HI thanks to the oil/fuel line continuing to be open.

Soon I'll stop all forts building in the area once Sian gets to 4 and some other bases get to level 3. That will hopefully allow more supply for healing disabled squads and flowing to units in the field.

DEI: Soerabaja goes down. Now all units are being sent to bases in good terrain to collect for the last defense of Java. I didn't work to create any fortresses here. Not enough time and also it's still hard to track down the various elements across the island. About 8 B-17s are railing to Tillityap to try and get fixed to fly out.

SIGINT: Nothing useful lately.



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 6, 42



Ground combat at Cabanatuan (80,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26908 troops, 247 guns, 218 vehicles, Assault Value = 867

Defending force 11718 troops, 148 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 417

Japanese adjusted assault: 706

Allied adjusted defense: 87

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
207 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3810 casualties reported
Squads: 114 destroyed, 99 disabled
Non Combat: 67 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 32 (15 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Units retreated 3


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ASW attack near Malden Island at 172,151

Japanese Ships
SS I-10

Allied Ships
CL St. Louis
CL Raleigh
CL Concord
DD Gridley
DD Balch
DD Benham

SS I-10 is sighted by escort







Two loaded transport TFs are scurrying toward solid ground while the KB is at the map edge. On Ceylon and in the middle of the IO subs, patrols and bombers search out enemy TFs. One RN SCTF is on station near Addu to move in if anything is picked up or scoot out if the KB or another mini-KB appears nearby. I'll be a lot happier when the planes are on a field.





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Also, I just got proof when I saw the Viper Force, due to arrive at Rangoon, is actually slated for Aden now. This brings up another question though. Will those divisions switch it up and be scheduled to arrive off-map at Aden, making it more difficult to get them on it where needed?

There is not a lot of good stuff coming soon either, and the off-map Aussies really need to make it to Karachi!





Its anecdotal, but my experience with Babes is that all deferred entries for the Dutch arrive at Aden. Haven't had any experience with deferred Indian troops.


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Tense turn. The Aussie brigade made it to Karachi but hasn't started the unload yet. Arrg! The KB and surface force are four hexes out. I'm hoping the TF can unload at least some of the 2/3 of the brigade before getting smoked. I sent out 3 ML TFs right at the KB, plucky little guys, volunteers all, in the hope they could slow anything coming. The PCs will also stand and fight. There are 300 mines in port and 75 fighters in case the KB wants to lose some pilots.

The good part is if he stays there are 15 subs converging on the position. Ten or so will be in range tomorrow. He's playing with fire so far from home. Now I need one lucky sub to come through.



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How big is Karachi port so far? Maybe they can unload everything before dawn.

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How big is Karachi port so far? Maybe they can unload everything before dawn.

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INDIA: Well, today I'm simultaneously pretty smart and very stupid. The 2/3 brigade on the transports ran for cover instead of trying to unload anything, in spite of it's absolute orders setting. Troops lost on ships. This is something I almost always have managed to avoid, and I will work doubly hard to ensure it doesn't happen in the future. Hate it.

The smart part is that 1/3 of the brigade is still at Abadan. This will be split to different transports and wait until the absolute all clear to move.

GJ sent in the big guns, and wiped the PCs off the map at Karachi, but Kako took a mine hit. That is good, and subs are in the retreating path. The transports actually moved to the hex next to off map and were hit by old DDs. Grrr. The KB and company seem satisfied and are moving back toward Ceylon. Fifteen subs stand in their way, undetected as of yet. he has a CS cruiser (I think) operating out in from of the fleet here, but it's not picking up all of the subs. It's also vulnerable, only four ships in the TF. Going for that too.

Big units get out of Madras. Bombay and Karachi each are beefed up.Still considering whether I'll stay for Bombay or let him have it. All fighters land at Addu and begin to transit to Colombo. Others drop off at Diego while one bold TF is heading into Colombo itself. It's set to unload and disband. Come play with the AA guns please!

SUBS: The York is being dogged by two I-boats near Christmas Island, but makes land at this base. Still 11 system, 66 float and 20 engine damage. Now the long leg. The subs are being detected well, and hit by escorts, so I'm going to keep on.

Grenadier gets an xAK near Taihoku. Go Mk 14s!

Pacific: Prep for Boomerang heads to the Aleutians. Still no sight of any Japanese presence up there.

CHINA: Nothing new. Wenchow takes a pounding from BBs. Might send some subs to mine that port for fun. See if this becomes a continuing tactic. No planes are in base as the increase in fighters at Shanghai made this place untenable.

DEI: Java is being slowly worn away. Not much else to save. The B-17s have repaired nicely and moved on.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 9, 42
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ASW attack near Christmas Island at 174,146

Japanese Ships
SS I-10, hits 5

Allied Ships
APD Waters
APD Sands

SS I-10 is located by APD Waters

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ASW attack near Christmas Island at 174,145

Japanese Ships
SS I-17

Allied Ships
DD Chew
DD Schley

SS I-17 is located by DD Chew
I-17 diving deep ....
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 10, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 40,8, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Kagero
DD Hayashio
DD Maikaze
DD Isokaze
DD Shiranui
DD Amatsukaze
DD Arashi
DD Fubuki
DD Oboro
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
PC Jumna, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
PC Sutlej, Shell hits 18, and is sunk


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TF 6 encounters mine field at Karachi (40,8)

Japanese Ships
CA Kako, Mine hits 1

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 38,4, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Hasu
DD Tsuga
DD Susuki, Shell hits 1
DD Tsuta

Allied Ships
xAP Devonshire, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Lancashire, Shell hits 28, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
3441 casualties reported
Squads: 112 destroyed, 104 disabled
Non Combat: 136 destroyed, 142 disabled
Engineers: 20 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 75 (65 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (8 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 6,000 yards
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Losses:

Loss of PT-48 on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of PC Jumna on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of PC Sutlej on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of AMc Merbabo on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of AMc Ardjoeno on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of AMc Kawi on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of AMc Holland on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of HDML P 5 on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of HDML P 6 on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of HDML P 23 on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of xAP Devonshire on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted
Loss of xAP Lancashire on Feb 10, 1942 is admitted


Ships Sunk:

xAK Shinfuku Maru is reported to have been sunk near Iriomote on Feb 08, 1942
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Not too bad yet, but little things matter, and I can't take too many risks and avoid a scare with AV come 1/43. This is the first time through in a PBEM as Allies, and it's fun, but torturous. Good to experience this side, the helplessness of the early days.
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CV Yorktown - I would head her for Hilo first with PBYs on ASW patrol from there to see what subs he has off Hawaii. Then, from Hilo to Pearl, I would include the "coastal" setting for routing to ensure she stays in the shallow ocean hexes.

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CV Yorktown - I would head her for Hilo first with PBYs on ASW patrol from there to see what subs he has off Hawaii. Then, from Hilo to Pearl, I would include the "coastal" setting for routing to ensure she stays in the shallow ocean hexes.


Yes, she's skirting the line islands in case I need a port quickly, and for the LBA search, and then is heading diagonally right at Kona, actually. The Cats and DBs will be looking and the Sara will stay with her all of the way. There are a lot of ASW ships here, and they're swarming the subs so far. Fingers crossed.

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Re: the transport skippers who would not "Stay!" - I find it sometimes helps to set the port you want them to stay in as the home port.
If they get the urge to run from SCTFs they usually run for home port, though not always if their skipper has poor aggression rating.
I usually check the skipper of every xAP that has been assigned to carry troops and change the CO if needed (Naval 50+, Aggression 40 - 60). Most of the time no PP are required for the change.
Unfortunately the CO pool for Commonwealth ships is very shallow and most skippers are poorly qualified.


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Re: the transport skippers who would not "Stay!" - I find it sometimes helps to set the port you want them to stay in as the home port.
If they get the urge to run from SCTFs they usually run for home port, though not always if their skipper has poor aggression rating.
I usually check the skipper of every xAP that has been assigned to carry troops and change the CO if needed (Naval 50+, Aggression 40 - 60). Most of the time no PP are required for the change.
Unfortunately the CO pool for Commonwealth ships is very shallow and most skippers are poorly qualified.



I had them set to karachi as home port, but didn't change commanders. The pools in general are really poor for the Allies in the beginning. This is one of the biggest surprises for my first run through a PBEM so far. I literally can't find enough good sub, destroyer and cruiser commanders, let alone improved transport TF guys.

The Japanese start with a plethora of aggressive, highly skilled naval commanders and air group commanders. This is another reason they own the first year of the war. It's a huge difference to run out ships with skippers whose aggression tops at 49! ASW suffers for sure, as aggression is key to attacking subs. I can get either naval or aggression but not often both.

Having been doing a lot of reading I see why this is in game though. The pre-war commanders were much less risk-taking and by-the-book. It wasn't until the 90-day wonders arrived and the younger naval academy grads moved up into commands that things started to change.


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SUBS: A few new I-boats come into range of the Yorktown. She's moving well, has plenty of ASW around, and has kept steady in terms of damage. Some more APDs just finished converting are heading in.

INDIA: The KB dodges subs and gets through so far. Then runs for the open IO and disappears from search. Cats go to Addu to pick it up again. We'll see tomorrow hopefully. Lots of the best Dutch subs and S-boats with working TT are in the open channels of the Maldives.

Near Trincommalee a massive Japanese invasion fleet readies to take Ceylon. Fighters have transited to Colombo from Addu and now almost 100 defend the base. Not much else to do here.

CHINA: GJ is getting tired of dealing with Wenchow it seems. He's sent BBs to bombard for the past four turns. Rather have them here, to be honest, than most anywhere else. Subs are moving in to see if they can get lucky.

Zeros jumped a Blenheim group and a few Lysanders trying to slow a division moving into the deep wooded rough south of Pingsiang. We had three solid days of bombing, which may have been enough to get in first.

DEI: Singers left undefended, with on CAP. It seems anyway. I'm sending PBYs to bomb since th rollover shows CVL. A longshot, but these Cats have no future after java is done, so may as well use them.






The KB apeears to be trying to move around the many subs along the coast back to replenish. This could be a doubling back again though to go for more convoys near Karachi. Does he have a replenishment convoy out there somewhere? I'm sending subs to find out and put a small Cat group at Addu for a look.




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OPERATION BOOMERANG



After the great input from Alfred and others plans are taking shape and units are moving into ready staging areas. The timeframe will have to shift back two weeks at least until mid-March due to the transit time of CVs from Cape Town. The Enterprise finally made it there and has only a 45-50 day repair, so as the first stages of the Op hits (and if the bulk of the KB moves NE into the Pacific) the big E might be able to move into the IO with Hermes (and Formidable?) to go for something there if there is still a siege on.

Prep is also looking like it'll not be ready until Mid-March at the earliest. I don't want to hit atolls with incompletely prepped units. I'm thinking a regiment, a combat engineer and a tank unit for Wake and Marcus. Of course after several days of bombardments and air strikes. It all depends on what we find of course. I know the Wake CD guns don't arrive immediately either, so I'll have to check the date of arrival. That could make a difference.

Due to the poor PH strike, sinking only one BB, I'll have two repaired before this op plus the Warspite and Colorado, and the Idaho and the Mississippi, six altogether. The CVs will be Hornet, Saratoga, Lexington and Indomitable.

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A month and a half of invasion bonus left. Will all of the Empire's energy e focused on India or are there other high value targets in the plans?

SUBS: SS KIX gets a shot at escorts of the KB but that's as close as we get for now. Gar reacts into a minefield at Hakodate. I guess it wasn't 'known' before. Hopefully this won't happen again.

The I-16 gets a few off at PC Perseus, and takes one ash can for it's trouble. I-171 also takes a shot at Perseus, and again gets one hit.

INDIA: Trincomalee is invaded. All of the troops on the island are in Colombo. The split base force on the smaller bases will move now if they don't get para-dropped first. Nic is fond of his para-troops!

Still 30 fighters repairing on Addu, but now 93 in Colombo and the B-26 have all made it back to Karachi. Whew. I feel sneaky. The TF that brought them is hugging the coast toward Bombay to avoid detection. A few other units on the move near the Aden map edge. If the KB has fuel to pop back there I may be sad, but I think everything should be able to turn around in time as there is good search from some LR Hudsons and Cats now.

Pacific: The Yorktown saga continues, but she made three hexes this past turn and seems to be in good shape, dropping another system point.

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Sub attack near Palmyra at 176,131

Japanese Ships
SS I-16, hits 1

Allied Ships
PC Perseus

SS I-16 launches 2 torpedoes at PC Perseus
I-16 diving deep ....
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 15, 42
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Sub attack near Palmyra at 177,127

Japanese Ships
SS I-171, hits 1

Allied Ships
PC Perseus

SS I-171 launches 2 torpedoes at PC Perseus
PC Perseus fails to find sub, continues to search...
PC Perseus attacking submerged sub ....

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Ground combat at Malaybalay (80,90)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7604 troops, 99 guns, 111 vehicles, Assault Value = 228

Defending force 9536 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 298

Japanese adjusted assault: 80

Allied adjusted defense: 154

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
488 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 32 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment
Kure 2nd SNLF
5th Amphibious Brigade
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
3rd PA Constabulary Regiment
102nd PA Infantry Regiment
102nd PA Infantry Division
III Philippine Corps
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Ships Sunk:

xAK Ryoyo Maru is reported to have been sunk near Singkawang on Dec 08, 1941






While it will suck not to have the forward base and shipyard in the IO, I'm almost happy he's invading here. It mean to me a focus on the East of India and leaves some room to bring reinforcements and air units to Karachi to build from the rear. Also there is more time to build forts. If Bombay and Karachi have 5-6 forts they will be a lot tougher than Calcutta with level 3.




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Invading Ceylon is going to buy you time to consolidate Karachi and Bombay for sure. I think you might be able to rule out GreyJoy going for all of India since I don't think he'll have the time to land at Karachi before the amphibious bonus ends with enough strength. It's going to be interesting following the next few months, but I think it's going to be fun for you. If you can get enough 4E's to India, Ceylon may be a bittersweet victory for GreyJoy. At least he's giving you lots of options for liberation.

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Invading Ceylon is going to buy you time to consolidate Karachi and Bombay for sure. I think you might be able to rule out GreyJoy going for all of India since I don't think he'll have the time to land at Karachi before the amphibious bonus ends with enough strength. It's going to be interesting following the next few months, but I think it's going to be fun for you. If you can get enough 4E's to India, Ceylon may be a bittersweet victory for GreyJoy. At least he's giving you lots of options for liberation.


We do have a rule of no ground bombing troops with 4Es, but that is actually to my liking as I want to use them for strat bombing, airfield suppression and other facilities destruction. I currently have about 80-90 4Es in India. Now that Ive gotten some fighters in to protect them I can start thinking of how to slow him down here.

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We do have a rule of no ground bombing troops with 4Es, but that is actually to my liking as I want to use them for strat bombing, airfield suppression and other facilities destruction. I currently have about 80-90 4Es in India. Now that Ive gotten some fighters in to protect them I can start thinking of how to slow him down here.


That was my thinking too. I wasn't aware of your house rule, but I'd feel the same. 4E's are meant to hammer industry and facilities in my opinion. I'd look at trashing Colombo's port to deny it being a viable base to operate from and of course knock the airbases on Ceylon out. It will be a great way to force GreyJoy to divert air units to defend the island and away from your intended operations.


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