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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/25/2014 5:46:35 PM   
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Looks like AF units only.


Yep. SIGINT pretty much confirms that there isn't much of the infantry left that was here for most of the game. Maybe more is coming, but it looks to me like he's just pulled back all but search and some AS. Maybe keeping the KB close to hit anything lured in by the false sense of security. After a few more bases in So Pac are secured I'l bring a LOT of subs this way to begin scouting.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/25/2014 5:47:50 PM   
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Thats a nice Chinese unit there. If you ever get China in supply again GJ are in deep trouble.


That is the hope, but Nick knows that too, so I think his whole strategy in India has changed to keeping me from the mountains. At least that opens other things in the meantime.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/25/2014 5:49:09 PM   
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95th Chinese Corps is somewhat of an anomaly, since it starts the war with 18 additional mortars. Great to see this "artillery" corps in good shape at this point of the war. Full compliment of guns - impressive.


Ahhh, I didn't know this. It was sitting in the North and building up, and I finally moved it when the Chikhiang situation was getting dire. Nice to see also it's picked up this 55exp (from 44 a few weeks ago).

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/25/2014 6:52:19 PM   
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Well done in China!


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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/25/2014 9:46:58 PM   
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Well done in China!



Thanks. It's good, but not good. Like, the Chinese aren't winning. They're just not losing too badly.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/26/2014 6:30:09 AM   
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Well done in China!



Thanks. It's good, but not good. Like, the Chinese aren't winning. They're just not losing too badly.

Most accurate description of the Allies best possible achievement in China that I have seen!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/26/2014 11:35:27 AM   
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SUBS: The I-175 takes out AM Canso in So Pac. The first sub hit for a while.

INDIA: Madras seems to be having troops pulled out. it's only got 120 fighters now according to recon. I might try something here if things remain the same. I've got a good number of P-40K groups and one good P-38F group in India right now for sweeps.

CENT PAC: A strike by B-25s gets chewed up over Nauru as the base is more open that it seemed after recent bombardments. Looks like he has a lot of engineers here. Lose 14 airframes in this one that I can't afford.

Still on for the Makin landing in a few days. Hopefully my folly over Nauru draws attention away from other things in the area.

The next day though go tsome retribution with a P-38 sweep over Nauru, downing 11 A6M2s.

SO PAC: More stuff moving into the Tulagi area to get engineers and supply onto surrounding bases. No reaction as of yet.

CHINA: The Chinese take a difficult DA to the South of Kweiyang, with our forces losing 200+ infantry squads disabled to only about 90 for the Japanese. This is against a tank heavy force, and only in x2 terrain, but the units have between 2-4 forts and building. Hopefully I can get some good stops and the supply draw is tough for the Japanese here.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 5, 42
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Morning Air attack on Nauru Island , at 127,128

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 146,63, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Oi
DD Kuri
DD Hishu
DD Kiku
DD Yomogi

Allied Ships
AM Oriole, Shell hits 12, and is sunk

Reduced visibility due to Rain

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 6, 42
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Sub attack near Arorae at 139,140

Japanese Ships
SS I-175

Allied Ships
AM Canso, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Minnesotan
xAK Alabaman
AM Caraquet

SS I-175 launches 4 torpedoes at AM Canso
I-175 diving deep ....
AM Caraquet fails to find sub, continues to search...

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Morning Air attack on Nauru Island , at 127,128

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 20000 feet

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 7, 42
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Ground combat at 73,49 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 31882 troops, 487 guns, 1215 vehicles, Assault Value = 1286

Defending force 41831 troops, 228 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1312

Japanese adjusted assault: 846

Allied adjusted defense: 1187

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1438 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 90 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1644 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 211 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled)


Assaulting units:
16th Division
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Division
Guards Tank Division
23rd Army
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
67th Chinese Corps
24th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
21st Group Army
11th Chinese Base Force

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This is interesting. Random find? Probably not. This is up around 17 hexes from Paramushiro-Jima and about 15 hexes from Adak. The AM Oriole was an early warning picket for surface raiding or potential invasions to the North Pacific area. I'm guessing this TF was sent to get it after a sighting. i used to do this often against the Allies playing Japan, thinning it at least erases one small escort type ship and forces them to consider putting another out on patrol. Jut an annoyance unless followed up by something bigger. Lots of PBYs up here so it' not likely something will slip past any farther into shipping paths.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/27/2014 3:21:30 PM   
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SUBS: I noticed some ships being sighted near SF so I sent out a few small ASW TFs and some YPs immediately found I-17 prowling. It wasted two TT on YP-133 for no hit and didn't get picked up in search the next day. All TFs are being diverted, especially as there are some CVEs moving around here these days!

INDIA: A very frustrating day over Madras. in spite of a well designed set up for a strike on Madras, with 60-70 LR CAP, 120 escorts and 85 sweepers designed to hit first from close by to wear down the CAP, it all goes wrong. Maybe due to weather? Maybe just chance.

The first to arrive are 36 B-24D with 24 escorting P-40E, but only one of the many groups on LR CAP involved. In spite of the fact that these were flying from 11 hexes and the sweeps were from 4-5 hexes, they arrive first.

Carnage.

Then it continues, all during the morning phase, with more diverse packages, never all of the LR CAP around, and finally the sweeps, which are incredibly effective, at the VERY END. Oh, well.

So. What am I doing wrong.

1. I did not check the weather and haven't consistently factored in forecasts into my plans. This is the first time playing with advanced weather and this is my fault. I have to be better at it.

2. I can't strike with surprise at this stage of the game. I'm expecting too much from my forces. The CAP is about what I expected, and my sweeps would have most likely saved 20-30 4E from destruction by making the CAP more manageable for the somewhat decent escort and LR CAP coverage, but I need to use these for several days before a big strike, not the day of, to make sure it's going to work. Right now this would just mean he adds another 200 fighters to the base for day 2-3 and the strike is off. Still, this would be better than the current result and would open up real opportunities everywhere else he flies the planes from. I have not been smart enough about using these reactions yet.

3. The bomber crews are not yet experienced enough to fight through big CAPs and get to target. They need more time. As it turns out, they'll now get it.

The entire Indian USAAF and RAF are grounded until further notice. There is no strategic point right now in fighting through massive CAP to hit anything until ground forces can face the Japanese on equal terms, so I will not waste airframes in battles that don't have a strategic focus. It's taken me 11 months to figure some of these things out, but I think I have a better handle on what the Allied forces can do now, and I won't make these same mistakes again, as much as I can help it. I have many other mistakes that need execution!

On the bright side, lots of Japanese fighter pilots most likely went down, including those that got kills in these battles and faced the sweeps after.

CENT PAC: Preparations for the Makin landings are going well as bombing of troops and the Mili fields go unopposed. We land on the 11th. A very small force going in here, so it relies on the work that's been done to the IJN troops in place (52nd Naval Guard Unit) to work. It should be well disrupted and weakened, but this is an atoll, so you never know. Some supply is coming separately and should arrive in time to give enough for the first assault. Air cover will only be from nearby Tarawa.

SO PAC: No moves by the Japanese. Deboyne Island makes a level 1 field. Troops for Lunga are on their way. This is looking positive so far.

CHINA: Massive raids are now targeting the troops to the South of Kweiyang, but they're holding up well, not getting insanely disrupted. Still, this is a tough hold once the air strength factors in.

Interestingly it looks like the Japanese are going off-road into the area West of Chinhiang. Ten units have already transited to the next rough hex. I have good forces in all of the x3 hexes. It looks like he doesn't want to cross the river, but this will limit supply as well as lowering the number of troops to replace those in front line hexes that are worn out. I spreads the attack but our forces are there waiting, digging in, with reinforcements available to move into any of the possible destination hexes nearby. I'll bet he's going for the river crossing West of Kweiyang on the Chingking road. I have 800AV digging now and 600AV in Kweiyang that could move once I find out where he's headed.

This would make a fourth possible frontline hex and hopefully I could get one or two of these stuck with some troops filling in the rear areas. I may consider bringing more fresh Corps from up North.

SIGINT: As if I had any doubts about this!

China Expeditionary Army is planning for an attack on Kweiyang.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 9, 42
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Night Naval bombardment of Makin at 136,125

Allied Ships
CA Louisville
CA Northampton
DD Worden
DD Downes
DD Lang
DD Wilson
DD Henley

Japanese ground losses:
144 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Port hits 9
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Louisville
CA Louisville firing at Makin

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 25
A6M3a Zero x 43
A6M5 Zero x 71
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 66

Allied aircraft
Mohawk IV x 9
B-24D Liberator x 36
P-40E Warhawk x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 8 destroyed, 23 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed


Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 17
A6M3a Zero x 37
A6M5 Zero x 66
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 54

Allied aircraft
P-66 Vanguard x 4
B-17F Fortress x 4
B-24D Liberator x 24
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
P-66 Vanguard: 1 destroyed
B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24D Liberator: 4 destroyed, 11 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak


Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 10
A6M3a Zero x 28
A6M5 Zero x 50
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 44

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 24
F4F-4 Wildcat x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 7 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 8
A6M3a Zero x 25
A6M5 Zero x 36
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 35

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 7
P-38F Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 5
A6M3a Zero x 16
A6M5 Zero x 25
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 24

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 49
F4F-4 Wildcat x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 4 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 20000 feet *
20 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 20000 feet

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 10, 42
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Morning Air attack on 71st Chinese Corps, at 73,49 , near Kweiyang

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 20
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 39
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 23
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 25
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
450 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Too many. Not so many pilots lost thankfully.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/27/2014 4:08:06 PM   
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You are not LRCaping the target are you?

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Your best artillery is in your American CD units, so you might need to send some to India.

B-24 production doesn't ramp up until 2/43, so these type of losses hurt.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/27/2014 4:46:02 PM   
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You are not doing anything wrong.

Forget LRCAP and sweeps. If you want to protect your bombers you will either have to bomb where he is not or use escort. Or just keep on gambling things will work out. Sometime it doesn´t though and then you lose 1-2 months worth of replacements in a single day.

Personally I would ask myself if I really need to bomb Madras in the first place.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 10/27/2014 5:57:01 PM   
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You are not LRCaping the target are you?


I was actually! The Chinese groups, the F4F-4 USN group from Enterprise, and two RAF groups were set to LR CAP.

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Your best artillery is in your American CD units, so you might need to send some to India.

B-24 production doesn't ramp up until 2/43, so these type of losses hurt.


Yes! They do hurt.

Funny you mention the arty. I've got some heading to India from No Pac now that that is more secure for the winter. As more arrive I'll drop some through CT.

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You are not doing anything wrong.

Forget LRCAP and sweeps. If you want to protect your bombers you will either have to bomb where he is not or use escort. Or just keep on gambling things will work out. Sometime it doesn´t though and then you lose 1-2 months worth of replacements in a single day.

Personally I would ask myself if I really need to bomb Madras in the first place.


Well, as I elaborated on above, I don't need to bomb Madras currently, or anywhere else in India, until the ground forces can actually compete. I had been under the impression they might be good enough to hold their own until the recent battles, and those thoughts were quickly altered. So its a stalemate for a while, but at least those moves encouraged him to abandon a bunch of Central and Southern India. So the offensive air force will sit and the IJN can happily build more A6M2 airframes!

I did use a bunch of escort in addition to sweeps and LR CAP. So the escorts did fairly well when they were there and really well when both the LR CAP and escorts showed up, but due to the thunderstorms, that didn't happen much.

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I started relying on escort more an more towards the end of our game. Sadly for the allied player its not until late 44-45 that you can do it in bigger numbers due to the insane losses they suffer.

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Here's a new China map showing the cross-country incursion by 11+ IJA units. Interesting. Not sure where they'll go, but at least there is some reserve in the area already digging.




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Remember, that 4Es will press their attack home until the damage threshold is reached, then they turn back.The threshold is the function of aircraft durability and crew morale, so I only bomb with 4Es when their morale is at 99.

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Is he doing a forced river crossing into Changhsa?

That is about 4000AV of Chinese around Changsha do you have plans for them?

I liked the TOE of your Chinese Corp you posted the other day -- AT guns!

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Is he doing a forced river crossing into Changhsa?

That is about 4000AV of Chinese around Changsha do you have plans for them?

I liked the TOE of your Chinese Corp you posted the other day -- AT guns!


he's been in Changsha for a good while. All of those troops will stay in place and if he wants to deal with them he'll have to take the time to do that, now or later. They can be supplied somewhat from Changsha, but not for a little while as the recent bombing has killed most supply here. Back down at around 200.

They all have some AT guns! I couldn't remember if this was in all scenarios or just DBB. There are a few with extra AT as well. It definitely helps, even though most often the tanks are only damaged, they at least have to be repaired and that takes time.

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SUBS: Search and ASW forces are keeping the IJN subs from being effective in So Pac and Cent Pac. Not hits here lately, and now that more troops are moving through, I'm thankful for that.

A force of ten ships all showing CA from search is moving from the Rabaul area to the Kweijalen area. Subs are moving in to patrol the approaches and retreats. This may be a response to the troops unloading at Makin.

INDIA: Nothing really happening here. I've turned off most recon, but have a few on the big stack near Patna, which is still 140k strong, and showing some shifting of forces. He doesn't appear to be either retreating or advancing this stack now though. My troops have reduced to about 120k one hex away and are digging, waiting and holding. About 3100AV worth.

CENT PAC: Makin is invaded and falls easily to the 31st infantry regiment. There was enough prep that this was an easy one, and most if not all of the two units here remained to be destroyed judging by the loss totals for the Japanese. One Naval Guard and one base force wiped out. I have some more heading up to Mili, but I'm going to pull back until I know more about the IJN TF to the North. No real hurry here, and I don't want to find out the hard way that it's 4 CVs.

SO PAC: While he's focused on Cent Pac troops move toward a landing at Lunga on the 14th. I'll bring extra fighter coverage to Tulagi and have two cruiser led SCTFs here, plus PTs all over and subs on the approaches. There are three units here and I'm landing a Marine regiment and a TD unit. These are not APs though so I will need two days unfortunately, but I hope he doesn't learn that before we land.

CHINA: The Japanese try a DA to the South of Kweiyang which doesn't go well for them, resulting in a 1:2 and greater losses for them this time, which is fantastic. One unit at least is shown moving out after the turn. This is what we needed up here, and should result in a rest period where troops can recover a bit between air strikes. The AV for two tank divisions, and infantry division and a tank brigade is quite low, so they were already a bit worn down before this attack, the divisions all around 300-350AV.

The Japanese seem now to be heading to the x3 hex near Kweiyang and toward the city itself. I could have tried to hold in that x3 but it would spread forces even more, so I am letting them move into Kweiyang, hoping the extended supply lines will make attacks intermittent. I'll have 1100AV behind 3 forts here in two days. All that SL will allow. This will be the fourth hex with troops battling each other, a drain on supply but also potentially a lot for the IJA if we can hold a few attacks in them all.

SIGINT: Where could this be heading? It was most recently in Kobe, so must have been bought out for a purpose. Hopefully it's destined to stay in Truk which I have no intention of ever invading.

6/54th Division is loaded on xAP Husimi Maru moving to Truk.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 11, 42
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Night Naval bombardment of Makin at 136,125

Allied Ships
CL St. Louis
CL Detroit
DD King
DD Gilmer
DD Clark
DD Balch
DD Bailey

Japanese ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Port hits 17
Port supply hits 2

CL St. Louis firing at Makin
CL Detroit firing at 52nd Naval Guard Unit

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Night Naval bombardment of Makin at 136,125

Allied Ships
CA Louisville
CA Northampton
DD Worden
DD Downes
DD Lang
DD Wilson
DD Henley

Japanese ground losses:
122 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Port supply hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Louisville
CA Louisville firing at 52nd Naval Guard Unit

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Naval bombardment of Makin at 136,125

Allied Ships
CL St. Louis
CL Detroit
DD King
DD Gilmer
DD Clark
DD Balch
DD Bailey

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 2 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Port hits 22
Port supply hits 8

CL St. Louis firing at Makin
CL Detroit firing at 71st JAAF AF Bn

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Naval bombardment of Makin at 136,125

Allied Ships
CA Louisville
CA Northampton
DD Worden
DD Downes
DD Lang
DD Wilson
DD Henley

Japanese ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Port hits 14
Port supply hits 4

CA Louisville firing at 52nd Naval Guard Unit
CA Northampton firing at Makin

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Ground combat at Makin (136,125)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 2753 troops, 42 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 92

Defending force 1061 troops, 10 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Allied adjusted assault: 71

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 71 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Makin !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H6K5 Mavis: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-) Interesting. A very good leaders here. Maybe that there are no HQs in range?

Japanese ground losses:
1355 casualties reported
Squads: 81 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 113 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2


Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
52nd Naval Guard Unit
71st JAAF AF Bn

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 12, 42
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Night Naval bombardment of Wenchow at 89,58

Japanese Ships
CL Agano

Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Resources hits 1
Manpower hits 2
Fires 204
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 2

F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for CL Agano
CL Agano firing at Wenchow

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Ground combat at 73,49 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 31000 troops, 487 guns, 1215 vehicles, Assault Value = 1193

Defending force 39294 troops, 226 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1094

Japanese adjusted assault: 903

Allied adjusted defense: 1631

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
931 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 95 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Vehicles lost 31 (4 destroyed, 27 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
996 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 62 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
2nd Tank Division
16th Division
4th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
23rd Army
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
67th Chinese Corps
24th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
21st Group Army
11th Chinese Base Force

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Here is a shot of the TF moving up North after the Makin invasion. The next day it appeared up near Roi Namur. Need to know if it's CVs or just surface forces.

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That's a bit early for the Agano...about 4 months early, right? And yet you've seen Yamato. Maybe he's not building Musashi?

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Ailinglaplap - I hope this island is on your list in Marshalls. It has high AF potential along with decent SL (None are great in this area). It will allow sweeps by P-38s over Kusaie and 2e bombers.

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That's a bit early for the Agano...about 4 months early, right? And yet you've seen Yamato. Maybe he's not building Musashi?


Good question. Maybe it's the Scen 30 queue with certain ships pushed forward. I'd be surprised if he accelerated this, but you never know.

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Ailinglaplap - I hope this island is on your list in Marshalls. It has high AF potential along with decent SL (None are great in this area). It will allow sweeps by P-38s over Kusaie and 2e bombers.


I haven't started any prep for it yet, but I'm going to go through everything now since certain things in the Solomons are falling without a fight. I'll start new preps from the Marshalls, New Guinea and other bases in the next few turns. With many units fully prepped now and choosing an enemy destination I'll only need around 2 months to go from the base 25 prep points to something useful for these bases.

Right now it doesn't look like Ailinglalap is being used by the Japanese, so it might possibly be able to get it on the cheap.

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I've reached my goal of 12k VPs slightly before the 1/43 date Id hoped for. I had been hoping to keep him under 35k, and it looks like that is possible unless i suddenly lose all of China or a bunch of ships.

I could start picking some some small amounts of device points with these island invasions.





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SUNK?


This is odd to me. I didn't notice anything hitting a mine, or taking a TT, but there is an Alf listed as lost on the ground. I did hear sinking sounds n the replay during this turn, so maybe it's connected?




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SUNK?


This is odd to me. I didn't notice anything hitting a mine, or taking a TT, but there is an Alf listed as lost on the ground. I did hear sinking sounds n the replay during this turn, so maybe it's connected?





It could be delayed. Maybe one of the older CLs got hit a while ago and was trying to make a bigger port for repairs, and floundered?

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That's all I can think of too. I'll just keep watching the sunk reports.

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Nov 13 - 16, 1942



SUBS: Lots of subs trying to vector in to the TF hovering in the Marshalls.

INDIA: Nothing much going on.

CENT PAC: Toyed with heading right into Mili after Makin, but th TF hanging around North of Roi Namur is making me nervous and neither subs or search have gotten a definite ID on it yet. The latest shows some CS/CA/CL so I bet there are carriers there. I'm pulling back to around Abemama and trying to make sub contacts to get a better idea about things here.

At Makin I have been able to unload a base force and the IJN sent in 9 Bettys escorted by Oscars, and the CVE Wildcats got their first taste of battle, shooting down 5-7 Oscars and about 4-5 Bettys. They dropped bombs, not TT, so that is a good sign.

SO PAC: Lunga is invaded! The Japanese sent a wave of fighters, both 40 A6M3a and 27 Oscars at Tulagi just as we were landing, probably to test the air for strikes, and the CAP did extremely well. At least 25 fighters were shot down for only 9 losses. Troops are on the ground but since these are caps the unload is loooooooong. Too lengthy for my liking but at least there have been no attempts to hit anything. I'll wait for the support to land, then try a DA.

CHINA: Another DA South of Kweiyang, accompanied by devastating bombing by 300+ 2E, leave our troops hanging on but weakened. He switched out one unit and has about 1150AV to our 850AV after the attack. Getting dicey. Might have to get a CAP in just for a rest.

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Morning Air attack on Tulagi , at 114,137

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 40

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 8
P-39D Airacobra x 14
P-40E Warhawk x 15
F4F-3 Wildcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Tulagi , at 114,137

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 10
F4F-3 Wildcat x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 16, 42
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Ground combat at 73,49 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32392 troops, 479 guns, 1211 vehicles, Assault Value = 1253

Defending force 37319 troops, 225 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 924

Japanese adjusted assault: 898

Allied adjusted defense: 1155

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1302 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 60 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Vehicles lost 41 (1 destroyed, 40 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
698 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled


Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Division
4th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
51st Division
Guards Tank Division
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion
23rd Army
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
34th Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
24th Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
21st Group Army
11th Chinese Base Force

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Frustrating to not be able to get a look at these ships and figure out what is up there.

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I would think twice about Mili -- isn't there a fairly nasty static gun unit there?


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