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TOTAL LOSSES from bombardments at Chungking: June 07 - 30, 1943
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I've been looking at the CRs for the Chungking bombardments and I'm starting to wonder if they're more deceiving than I'd even thought before. There is definitely FOW here, but as you loo through notice the gun numbers are pretty stable for the Japanese in spite of supposedly large losses. The vehicle numbers fluctuate more, but not close to what is claimed in the CRs.
I'm thinking two things. One, the units attacking are just the arty units and some damage may be going to other units in the hex that I then won't see reflected in the total numbers for each attack. Two, the reports, if they reflect actual numbers at all, seem to show disabled devices as 'present' in the attack regardless of whether they participate or not. So it's tough to determine if he's really taking losses in these bombardments or not.
It's just something to do while Nick is away visiting his father, but makes me think I do need a bit more arty here and I'll only know whether it's effective in counter-bombarding when those bombardments are actually forced to stop!
As shown below (and with a few CRs missing as well) the number of guns lost or disabled according to the CRs during this period exceed the number of guns that are actually here. Of course some could be destroyed/disabled in units not participating in the bombardments, but it seems highly unlikely that ALL guns affected would be from those units, and it's also unlikely a large number would be fixed in an enemy controlled hex quickly enough to continue with daily bombardments if losses were actually this severe.
GUNS destroyed/disabled:
19/178
VEHICLES destroyed/disabled:
43/55
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 07, 43
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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 2484 troops, 177 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Defending force 149737 troops, 726 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3438
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 08, 43
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Attacking force 2470 troops, 176 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
(no losses)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 09, 43
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Attacking force 2470 troops, 176 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 10, 43
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(missing CR)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 11, 43
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Attacking force 2476 troops, 176 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 12, 43
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Attacking force 2476 troops, 177 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (12 destroyed, 2 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 13, 43
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Attacking force 2458 troops, 177 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 28 (1 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (3 destroyed, 5 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 14, 43
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Attacking force 2466 troops, 177 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 15, 43
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Attacking force 2466 troops, 177 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (9 destroyed, 2 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 16, 43
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Attacking force 2478 troops, 176 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
(no losses)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 17, 43
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Attacking force 2454 troops, 175 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 18, 43
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Attacking force 2426 troops, 173 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 19, 43
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Attacking force 2410 troops, 176 guns, 135 vehicles, Assault Value = 2144
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 20, 43
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Attacking force 2392 troops, 176 guns, 133 vehicles, Assault Value = 2145
Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 21, 43
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Attacking force 2378 troops, 177 guns, 138 vehicles, Assault Value = 2144
Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 30 (2 destroyed, 28 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 22, 43
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Attacking force 2384 troops, 177 guns, 137 vehicles, Assault Value = 2144
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 23, 43
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(missing CR)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 24, 43
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Attacking force 2406 troops, 177 guns, 140 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 25, 43
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Attacking force 2414 troops, 177 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 24 (1 destroyed, 23 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 26, 43
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Attacking force 2432 troops, 176 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 27, 43
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Attacking force 2442 troops, 177 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (2 destroyed, 11 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 28, 43
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Attacking force 2444 troops, 176 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2145
Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 29, 43
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Attacking force 2440 troops, 176 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 30, 43
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Attacking force 2460 troops, 177 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
< Message edited by obvert -- 3/1/2015 11:29:41 AM >
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