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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/8/2015 10:43:02 PM   
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This are is getting ahead of prep. I'm just now starting the units for Roi Namur, which I didn't think I'd get to for another two months. Now though I'm loading up for Kwajalein so it should be sooner. Once the other islands in the area fall that will just be a matter of continual bombardment and I may be able to get it with partial prep and some paratroops.

Right now I'm really impatient to get this are resolved and finished so I can move on to more interesting things. I could really use the air units here in the So Pac area, but first things first. I don't want to get careless now.

Taongi, Bikini and Namu are next on the list. The first two as extended search bases. The later as a base for an Army HQ to help in he invasion of Kweijalen.




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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/9/2015 12:22:56 AM   
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The later as a base for an Army HQ to help in he invasion of Kweijalen.




That is pretty darn clever, but do you think you will really need it? Your binary soldiers should be very proud of the CnC!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/9/2015 12:27:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		seems the Marshalls and the Solomons are almost in the bag. Nice work grinding him down. I suspect Nick is no fool and he has hardened the next layer. Gonna get interesting.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/9/2015 8:43:21 AM   
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seems the Marshalls and the Solomons are almost in the bag. Nice work grinding him down. I suspect Nick is no fool and he has hardened the next layer. Gonna get interesting.


I assume the same. I think he intentionally made these a soft barrier just to slow the Allies, but the next layer will be stronger. My assumption is that he didn't want to sue the forces and resources to fight so far south, but maybe has been lured into it like a cat that sees a bird flying just a little too boldly near. I'm just trying to see his side of course, but the build-up in the New Britain and New Guinea areas was definitely recent.

I'll take a very traditional path for a while around Rabaul and will aim to move to Kaveing to cut it all off, with Nadzab, Lae and Finschafen on New Guinea becoming an interlocked airfield center that can control the skies and seas on that approach and throughout the area.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/9/2015 9:42:34 AM   
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/9/2015 2:25:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		He seems to have some fortresses set up at Ponape, Horn island and a couple of others that you can see and probably a few in the DEI that you can't see.. He has a lot of AV at these places. He can't do that everywhere but it seems he is defending forward. Have to find a soft spot because tackling these strong points is going to be tough.he picked some great spots

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/9/2015 5:25:55 PM   
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He seems to have some fortresses set up at Ponape, Horn island and a couple of others that you can see and probably a few in the DEI that you can't see.. He has a lot of AV at these places. He can't do that everywhere but it seems he is defending forward. Have to find a soft spot because tackling these strong points is going to be tough.he picked some great spots


Yes. They do look tough, but thanks to the Allied SIGINT I at least know mostly how tough. I can bypass the majority of them and leave others until late when they've been run out of supply and have either been reduced or he has pulled parts of the major units back. One difficulty of this for the Japanese that I found is that the whole unit can not often be removed once the area is locked down by Allied presence. So a fragment remains that is most of the heavy guns and support vehicles, tanks, AA and CD guns. Those then can't be used farther back if the Allied player simply bombs the place out of supply and lets them sit.

I've got a detailed plan for Horn Island and Merauke. I don't think they're ideal for defense or essential for Allied progress. Simple bombing campaigns can render them inert at the correct moment to move forward and past them.

Umboi is a tough one but I've got prep planned that helps me define a path here up toward Kaveing and around Rabaul. Once there are level 9 bases at Nadzab and at Kaveing (and possible level 8 bases at New Hanover and Mussau Islands) both Rabaul and Umboi would be cut off.

This isn't even the major area of offensive though! It's just a good productive area to combat the Japanese forces far from home, far from fuel production and far from shipyards. Slow is good down here in combination with the strain of the continual fight in China, CENTPAC and anything that happens in Burma.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/9/2015 5:57:08 PM   
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No snow shoes being requisitioned, even if only to draw his attention North??


B-7 Parkas, shoe pacs , fur lined gloves and wool lined tanker helmets.

Shemya is up to a level 7 field.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/9/2015 11:20:40 PM   
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SUBS: Subs again got two hits this turn. The pressure is ramping up.

INDIA: Another groups of P-47s makes land at Bombay. They're bound for Ledo.

CENT PAC: Bikini falls to the Allies and nearer to Wotje Nick unleashes the Jakes at 1k against my flotillas of small craft, APDs and transports in the Northern Marshalls. They pick the fast transport TF heading to Taongi and in two attacks hit the APD Kane with 3 x 60kg bombs, keeping the ship and one other out of the five from continuing on, but they'll make it. Two Wildcats disrupt the strikes, downing a god number of Jakes in the second strike especially.

Sometimes it's these little daily actions that really make this game special. I love the details, the two fighters doggedly defending their chanrges against more numerous enemy, and the ships' commander sending the rest on to compete the mission in spite of the damage. I'm currently reading "Fortress Against the Sun," al about the B-17 in the Pacific. It's filled wight eh small stories of duty and heroism, plus just the quirks of war that make so many of us crazy in game, but really were accurately adapted here with amazing elegance.

SO PAC: Some good hits by the cruisers at Buin and the air force at Torokina. Now I've got all three arty units installed by landing craft at Buin. I'll drop supply and get going.

Nick swept Shortlands with Franks and Hellcats and Spits got a slight advantage, and of course we lost no pilots over our base.

CHINA: The Japanese fail in another DA but hit hard. I'll be pressed to get troops in fast enough to shore the place up before the next one. If he uses the air force it could be lights out here, but will he risk it?

OZ: Starting to move toward Carnarvon. The surrounding forward fields are ready and the air groups are getting close.

SIGINT: But where is the 5th really going?

30/5th Division is loaded on xAK Syohei Maru moving to Singapore.
16/5th Division is loaded on a Japanese CM moving to Singapore.

11/36th Division is loaded on xAK Hiteru Maru moving to Palembang.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 13, 43
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TF 177 encounters mine field at Torokina (109,130)

Allied Ships
AM Ungava
AM Whippoorwill

80 mines cleared


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TF 399 encounters mine field at Torokina (109,130)

Allied Ships
AMc Manuka
AMc Hinau, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

80 mines cleared

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TF 423 encounters mine field at Buin (109,131)

Allied Ships
AMc Humphrey
AMc Rimu

8 mines cleared

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Torokina at 109,130, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
DD Nenohi
DD Hatsushima
DD Ayanami
DD Oboro
DD Kikuzuki
DD Tatsuyuke

Allied Ships
AM Whippoorwill, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AM Ungava, Shell hits 13, and is sunk

Improved night sighting under 85% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 85% moonlight: 12,000 yards

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Morning Air attack on Shortlands , at 110,132

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 32

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 11
F6F-3 Hellcat x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Wotje at 136,115

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 3 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
APD Schley
APD Kane, Bomb hits 1
APD Lawrence

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VC(F)-26 with F4F-4 Wildcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Wotje at 136,115

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 14

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
APD Sands
APD Schley, Bomb hits 1
APD Kane, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ailuk at 136,114

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-1 Wildcat x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP Limerick

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 76,46 (near Chungking)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 29862 troops, 429 guns, 1567 vehicles, Assault Value = 1111

Defending force 40008 troops, 144 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 931

Japanese adjusted assault: 547

Allied adjusted defense: 1696

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
455 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 54 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 42 (3 destroyed, 39 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1473 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 248 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
18th Tank Regiment
19th Tank Regiment
39th Division
11th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
3rd Tank Division
3rd Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
80th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Corps
35th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
3rd Prov Chinese Corps
20th Artillery Regiment
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment

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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2464 troops, 175 guns, 149 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147

Defending force 134639 troops, 620 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2901

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (13 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
22nd Division
6th Division
34th Division
17th Division
104th Division
13th Army
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion
4th Mortar Battalion
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion

Defending units:
25th Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
97th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
17th Chinese Base Force
2nd Chinese Base Force
China Command
18th Artillery Regiment
11th Chinese Base Force
CAF HQ
41st AA Regiment
9th Chinese Base Force
49th AA Regiment
7th War Area
1st Chinese Base Force
20th Chinese Base Force
57th AT Gun Regiment
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
24th Indian Mtn Gun Rgt /1

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Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20766 troops, 290 guns, 1103 vehicles, Assault Value = 915

Defending force 31157 troops, 402 guns, 206 vehicles, Assault Value = 672

Allied adjusted assault: 1001

Japanese adjusted defense: 2086

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
828 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 109 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Allied ground losses:
170 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 69 (3 destroyed, 66 disabled)

Assaulting units:
754th Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Marine Division
762nd Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
III Indian Corps
2/1st Med Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
1st West African AA Regiment

Defending units:
33rd Division
55th Division
2nd Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd Area Army
54th Field AA Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
41st Air Defense AA Battalion
6th Air Defense AA Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
36th Field AA Battalion
12th Ind. AA Battalion

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Ground combat at Bikini (131,110)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 277 troops, 0 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 7

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Bikini !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
26th US Naval Const Bn

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Here are the numbers. About even vs the Franks.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/10/2015 11:55:02 PM   
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SUBS: Grampus finds big tankers heading toward Babs from Truk, but can't get a hit.

INDIA: Still fighting the monsoon to get supply to Ledo.

CENT PAC: The invasion of Kwejalein moves in and lands successfully. The troops get a 1:1 right off the bat, which I wasn't expecting, but a lot of squads were lost. The forts were reduced to level 3 though, and this bodes well. Will some naval support it shouldn't be long here. Now I have to get my troops from the West Coast to use for Roi Namur! I hadn't planned it anything like this early.

SO PAC: Starting to plan for Green Island and Buka. I am thinking I can pick them off even before getting finished at Buin and Torokina. Troops are ready, now I'll just have to get some air cover in place and quick transports.

CHINA: Nick tried a new tactic of hitting the Chinese with a small attack, probably only one armor division, and he accompanied it with air strikes today. In spite of the 1:2 result the Chinese took more heavy disablements and are reeling. I've got a unit on the way, but if he's able to attack again tomorrow, it could be lights out here and the battle from Chungking itself might be on the horizon.

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Pre-Invasion action off Kwajalein Island (132,115) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

139 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 1
CA Quincy, Shell hits 1
DD Endicott
APA Elmore
CVE Barnes
DD Mustin

Japanese ground losses:
210 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

BB Mississippi firing at Nimur Naval Fortress
Nimur Naval Fortress firing at BB Mississippi

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Ground combat at 76,46 (near Chungking)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28876 troops, 428 guns, 1493 vehicles, Assault Value = 1023

Defending force 37578 troops, 144 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 678

Japanese adjusted assault: 101

Allied adjusted defense: 2128

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 21

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker: supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
667 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Vehicles lost 118 (16 destroyed, 102 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
917 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 137 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Division
4th Tank Regiment
18th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
11th Tank Regiment
39th Division
19th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
4th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
35th Chinese Corps
3rd Prov Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
20th Artillery Regiment
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment

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Ground combat at Kwajalein Island (132,115)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4750 troops, 55 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 144

Defending force 4012 troops, 51 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Allied adjusted assault: 66

Japanese adjusted defense: 45

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
278 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1434 casualties reported
Squads: 28 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 20 (4 destroyed, 16 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
1/542nd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
44th Naval Guard Unit
Nimur Naval Fortress
6th Fleet
Kwajalein Base Force

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Ground combat at Taongi (136,107)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 492 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 9

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Taongi !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
16th US Naval Const Bn /6

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The Marshalls are pretty much in hand. Roi-Namur will be another month, but the others should fall within a week or two.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/11/2015 3:07:05 PM   
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But why bother taking them all? A couple of good air bases in the area and the rest of the Japanese bases are effectively dead.


I'm in a similar spot in one of my games (territory map is almost identical in the Pacific), and I'm doing the same. Honestly, I'm taking them all because I don't have the navy/shipping yet to push farther into the beehive. May as well grab the VPs for all these islands. Maybe obvert's reasons are the same. By eliminating them all he takes away any chance for GJ to fly in planes for surprise SLOC strikes.

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But why bother taking them all? A couple of good air bases in the area and the rest of the Japanese bases are effectively dead.


I'm in a similar spot in one of my games (territory map is almost identical in the Pacific), and I'm doing the same. Honestly, I'm taking them all because I don't have the navy/shipping yet to push farther into the beehive. May as well grab the VPs for all these islands. Maybe obvert's reasons are the same. By eliminating them all he takes away any chance for GJ to fly in planes for surprise SLOC strikes.


Exactly .. the bases are not "effectively dead" and just a few Betty's can fly in on one turn and strike the next against vulnerable targets ..

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna


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ORIGINAL: crsutton

But why bother taking them all? A couple of good air bases in the area and the rest of the Japanese bases are effectively dead.


I'm in a similar spot in one of my games (territory map is almost identical in the Pacific), and I'm doing the same. Honestly, I'm taking them all because I don't have the navy/shipping yet to push farther into the beehive. May as well grab the VPs for all these islands. Maybe obvert's reasons are the same. By eliminating them all he takes away any chance for GJ to fly in planes for surprise SLOC strikes.


Exactly .. the bases are not "effectively dead" and just a few Betty's can fly in on one turn and strike the next against vulnerable targets ..

Same goes for the dot bases - no VPs, but seaplanes can operate there, even without an AV/AVP/AVD for a while.
One player (Panzerjaeger Hortland?) did this in the Kuriles during a "Downfall" scenario - Hokkaido and all the Kuriles were Allied except one dot base. The Japanese flew virtually all their flying boats and float planes there and ambushed the allied fleets moving between Alaska and Hokkaido.
Huge numbers of CVEs sunk, with a lot of replacement planes for the allied CVs. The allies had to cease operations!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/11/2015 9:22:22 PM   
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But why bother taking them all? A couple of good air bases in the area and the rest of the Japanese bases are effectively dead.


I'm in a similar spot in one of my games (territory map is almost identical in the Pacific), and I'm doing the same. Honestly, I'm taking them all because I don't have the navy/shipping yet to push farther into the beehive. May as well grab the VPs for all these islands. Maybe obvert's reasons are the same. By eliminating them all he takes away any chance for GJ to fly in planes for surprise SLOC strikes.


Some of the reason is the VPs, some is the stacking, and some is just because this affords more opportunities to make sure I have good extended search in place and active on any given turn. With 6k limits I can't fit much in the area on just the main bases, so I may as well land on the others, eliminate possibilities for the other side, and build certain ones into active bases from which I can move later. It also gives him a lot more to recon/search trying to see what's coming.

Also, even though he can buy back units and put them in rear areas, it takes HI/fuel to make armament/vehicle points and supply to fill them out again. It may not be much, but it's something.

If I have search flying from Nauru, Ebon, Bikini and Taongi it also reduces the chance of any surprise strikes against all of the shipping I have here.

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Status: offline 		One other thing we haven't mentioned - doing unopposed (except by weather) landings builds experience which will help later.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/13/2015 2:43:14 PM   
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SUBS: No hits these two turns.

INDIA: Another P-47 group is nearing Bombay. This will make four groups once they're all here. I'll begin a process of picking around the edges once I send recon to assess what is going n in Burma. I want to see if he's using supportive multi-hex Cap or just over each hex. This will determine some of my later use of the heavies in the area.

CENT PAC: Maleolap falls! Now only Roi Namur and the already occupied Kweijalen to complete the Marshalls. I'm think of a Wake invasion soon now too, once I can install search on Taongi I'll start loading up. I have a Marine regiment 100% prepped and several other pieces at about half prep now. I also have prep going for Kusaie, but I'm just not sure if I'll even go there yet. It may be better to go around both Kusaie and Ponape.

I'll still have to watch out for low-flying Jakes in the Marshalls so CAP is doing heavy duty in the area, often at long range.

SO PAC: I've been bombarding consistently at Buin, and I'l be installing a Marine regiment soon. The Judys sortied for my PTs at Buin on the 17th, and I'll have to think about CAPing that base from Shortlands regularly. Strikes will hit both Torokina and Buin airfields once the weather clears up. They've been scrapped for two days now.

CHINA: Still fighting the supply battle Nick will take 76, 47 soon and looks to be trying to encircle the troops in the area. I'l try to limit that, but can't avoid it all most likely.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 16, 43
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Ground combat at Maloelap (136,117)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5868 troops, 61 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 77

Defending force 2994 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 27

Allied adjusted assault: 18

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
158 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
307 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled

Assaulting units:
21st Infantry Regiment
6th USN Naval Construction Regiment

Defending units:
88th Naval Guard Unit
Maloelap Naval Fortress
Maloelap Base Force
1st JNAF AF Unit

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 17, 43
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TF 399 encounters mine field at Torokina (109,130)

Allied Ships
AMc Manuka

15 mines cleared

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TF 423 encounters mine field at Torokina (109,130)

Allied Ships
AMc Humphrey
AMc Rimu

37 mines cleared

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Ground combat at Maloelap (136,117)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5640 troops, 61 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Defending force 3013 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Allied adjusted assault: 45

Japanese adjusted defense: 6

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Maloelap !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1263 casualties reported
Squads: 57 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 84 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 24 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 57 (57 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Allied ground losses:
282 casualties reported
Squads: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
21st Infantry Regiment
6th USN Naval Construction Regiment

Defending units:
88th Naval Guard Unit
Maloelap Base Force
Maloelap Naval Fortress
1st JNAF AF Unit

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Here is the SW/SO PAC map.

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Nice work Erik! You are doing well. Just keep inching forward. Sooner or later GJ will have to make a stand.


Thanks Jocke. I feel like I will see it soon, especially now that he has the 2nd gen fighters.

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INDIA: Our invasion of Addu has launched and so did the Bettys! They came from Diego and went for some 'R' class BBs embedded in the amphib TF a few hexes out from Addu. I didn't think they'd sortie so far, but knew if they did there would be no torps, and that was the case. They were extended bomb loads and at 1k so half of that, and didn't hit anything. Whew. The US CVs are lurking and provided air cover for the 19th when the invasion landed. No strikes this day, and no sightings of the US CVs, plus, after several bombardments the troops easily took the out of supply base.

CENT PAC: Jakes sortied and got under the covering Wildcats to hit about five smaller ships and craft, sinking 1/3 of a naval construction unit. I hate not being able to protect ships, but I know this happens, and will more often as things heat up. The rest of the TF will continue on to Bikini with an addition of low FP CAP from Rongelap.

SO PAC: A bit more work at Buin and I feel the Japanese are weakening there. The Marines will land a regiment in the next days and then I'll attack for real.

CHINA: At 76, 47 the Japanese weaken the Chinese enough that it's a matter of days here now. I'm sending everything West now.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 18, 43
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Addu at 16,50

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 9 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB Resolution
BB Ramillies

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Roi-Namur at 132,113

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
LCI-83, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
LCT-149, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
LCT-151, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Ruff, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LCI-21, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
LCT-154, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
250 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 19 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (7 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF-122 with F4F-4 Wildcat (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead

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Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 19860 troops, 290 guns, 1018 vehicles, Assault Value = 830

Defending force 28719 troops, 402 guns, 206 vehicles, Assault Value = 438

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 630

Japanese adjusted defense: 856

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
977 casualties reported
Squads: 49 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 43 (2 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 63 (7 destroyed, 56 disabled)

Assaulting units:
762nd Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
194th Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Marine Division
50th Tank Brigade
134th Field Artillery Battalion
2/1st Med Regiment
III Indian Corps
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
IV Indian Corps
1st West African AA Regiment

Defending units:
33rd/A Division
55th Division
33rd/B Division
33rd/C Division
41st Air Defense AA Battalion
6th Air Defense AA Regiment
2nd RF Gun Battalion
54th Field AA Battalion
2nd Ind.AA Gun Co
36th Field AA Battalion
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
1st RF Gun Battalion
2nd Area Army
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
12th Ind. AA Battalion

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 19, 43
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Pre-Invasion action off Addu (16,52)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Resolution
BB Ramillies
DD Van Galen
APA Fuller

Japanese ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

BB Resolution firing at 31st Special Base Force
BB Ramillies firing at Yokosuka 4th SNLF

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Ground combat at 76,47 (near Chungking)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22102 troops, 427 guns, 1480 vehicles, Assault Value = 994

Defending force 40978 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 934

Japanese adjusted assault: 551

Allied adjusted defense: 511

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
722 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Vehicles lost 41 (1 destroyed, 40 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
785 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 112 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Division
9th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Division
Guards Tank Division
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
76th Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
11th Group Army
13th Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at Addu (16,52)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 6975 troops, 115 guns, 74 vehicles, Assault Value = 221

Defending force 3321 troops, 11 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 45

Allied adjusted assault: 123

Japanese adjusted defense: 2

Allied assault odds: 61 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied forces CAPTURE Addu !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1818 casualties reported
Squads: 99 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 236 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
297 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Assaulting units:
159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
188th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
9th Ind Engineer Regiment
Yokosuka 4th SNLF
31st Special Base Force

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Reinforcements: The second Essex and first of the namable CVs arrived on the 19th in Balboa, the USS Alliance. I decided to use all names of ships from the Continental Navy during the Revolutionary War for the CVs. The CA/CL will have city names as was the tradition, and the DDs will be named after people, like my grandfathers and others I think are worthy.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 3/16/2015 11:18:17 PM   
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SUBS: Another midget sub nailed by my surface forces at Buin after getting two errant fish off toward the Santa Fe.

INDIA: Nick puts up a large LR CAP over Imphal and sweeps the edges getting most of LR CAP. Of course the Wellingtons make it in before the faster B-25s and get riddled. Later the base is bombed by both sides to hit troops. Our B-25s get enough hits to likely slow the Japanese here, but one division, the shell of the 33rd, makes it out before the ensuing DA. We still get a 1:1 even though forts go to 0. The division eventually escapes, but a bunch of AA is left and destroyed when we take the base.

As Nick said, this is decisively the end of the India campaign. I'd say tactically he won that phase of the war, but strategically it seems like the time and resources used to fight there so long could have a lasting effect. We'll see.

CENT PAC: The battle at Kwejalein got a bit more interesting as a DA goes badly resulting in a completely disabled regiment. I thought we'd been chipping away for long enough at the Japanese units here, but apparently not. It didn't help that weather kept the bombers away. I'm loading up another ind. regiment at 97% prep and preparing an all out bombing and bombardment campaign. Other than this all seems well in CentPac. I've noticed some CM at Wake. I'll recon to make sure, and will get some Fletchers ready to roll.

SO PAC: Georges make a shambles of the CAP at Lae. Too bad. I thought these might do well there with some decent radar. Didn't get the early warning I had hoped for though, and the Georges got about 6:1. Still, he lost 6 planes over my base, we lost only 9 pilots KIA on the day (total), and other than the P-38s I'm not so concerned about the pools for these planes. Don't lie giving him kills for the surviving pilots though, so I've got to get some P-47s down here soon.

Attacked at Buin on the 21st and failed to knock the forts down, but did get a better result in terms of disabled squads. I'll attack again on the 23rd now that a reinforcing Marine regiment has landed safely.

CHINA: Nick finally knocks the Chinese out of 76, 47. It's been a long fight there. He'll be able to mop these up as they retreated into the surrounded area to the East. I'll run them to the East one hex further to the x3 terrain, but the only hope is that they again retreat to the NW next time. Chungking is finally moving up in supply levels.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 20, 43
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ASW attack near Buin at 109,131

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-41, hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Santa Fe
CL Denver
DD Foote
DD Taylor
DD Strong

SSX Ha-41 launches 2 torpedoes at CL Santa Fe
Ha-41 bottoming out ....

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Morning Air attack on 2nd Hyderabad Base Force, at 59,41 , near Imphal

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 32
A6M8 Zero x 46
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 28

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 12
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 9 destroyed
A6M8 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M8 Zero (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Raid is overhead
Hosho-1 with A6M8 Zero (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
18 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Raid is overhead
Chitose-1 with A6M5c Zero (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
13th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 28 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with A6M8 Zero (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Raid is overhead
Kaiyo-1 with A6M5c Zero (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 11
A6M8 Zero x 30
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 23

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 4
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 10 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 3rd Carabiniers Regiment, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 9
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 27
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 18
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 11
A6M8 Zero x 10
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
Wellington B.X x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington B.X: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Wellington B.X bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 55th Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 2
A6M8 Zero x 1
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 26
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 76,47 (near Chungking)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 22212 troops, 427 guns, 1551 vehicles, Assault Value = 966

Defending force 39645 troops, 54 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 789

Japanese adjusted assault: 1030

Allied adjusted defense: 340

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1148 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 65 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 49 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Guns lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Vehicles lost 71 (3 destroyed, 68 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
11544 casualties reported
Squads: 381 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 399 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 9

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Tank Division
3rd Tank Division
23rd Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
56th Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
11th Group Army
13th Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20226 troops, 290 guns, 1097 vehicles, Assault Value = 823

Defending force 18974 troops, 300 guns, 202 vehicles, Assault Value = 328

Allied adjusted assault: 392

Japanese adjusted defense: 322

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
671 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 42 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 77 (39 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 21 (3 destroyed, 18 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
255 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 32 (3 destroyed, 29 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd Marine Division
762nd Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
2nd Hyderabad Base Force
III Indian Corps
2/1st Med Regiment
IV Indian Corps
6th Medium Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
1st West African AA Regiment

Defending units:
55th Division
1st RF Gun Battalion
36th Field AA Battalion
2nd Area Army
2nd Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd RF Gun Battalion
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
41st Air Defense AA Battalion
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
6th Air Defense AA Regiment
54th Field AA Battalion
12th Ind. AA Battalion

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 21, 43
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ASW attack near Finschhafen at 100,126

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-26, hits 13, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
xAKL Schouten
PC Haida

SSX Ha-26 is sighted by escort
Ha-26 bottoming out ....


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TF 417 encounters mine field at Finschhafen (100,126) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied Ships
YMS-96, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Combined 8th SNLF firing at YMS-96
YMS-96 firing at Combined 8th SNLF

1 mine cleared

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Ground combat at Buin (109,131)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12191 troops, 250 guns, 163 vehicles, Assault Value = 455

Defending force 7126 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 193

Allied adjusted assault: 544

Japanese adjusted defense: 711

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
405 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
32nd Infantry Division
2nd Marine Regiment
147th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
18th Garrison Unit
46th Naval Guard Unit
42nd JNAF AF Unit
44th JNAF AF Unit
45th JNAF AF Unit


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Ground combat at Kwajalein Island (132,115)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4478 troops, 55 guns, 31 vehicles, Assault Value = 105

Defending force 3948 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Allied adjusted assault: 10

Japanese adjusted defense: 50

Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
847 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 106 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 22 (2 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
1/542nd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
44th Naval Guard Unit
6th Fleet
Nimur Naval Fortress
Kwajalein Base Force

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Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21426 troops, 303 guns, 1098 vehicles, Assault Value = 789

Defending force 5193 troops, 162 guns, 196 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Allied adjusted assault: 349

Japanese adjusted defense: 73

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kalemyo !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
731 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 211 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 144 (143 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 201 (201 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
762nd Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Marine Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
6th Medium Regiment
III Indian Corps
134th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Hyderabad Base Force
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
IV Indian Corps
2/1st Med Regiment
1st West African AA Regiment

Defending units:
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
36th Field AA Battalion
2nd Area Army
2nd Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd RF Gun Battalion
41st Air Defense AA Battalion
6th Air Defense AA Regiment
54th Field AA Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
12th Ind. AA Battalion



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 22, 43
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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 40

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 8
Spitfire Vc Trop x 16
Kittyhawk III x 12
P-38G Lightning x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 3 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 2 destroyed
Kittyhawk III: 3 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 25000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.18 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 6 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 8 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
No.82 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes

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Ground combat at Buin (109,131)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 468 troops, 51 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 449

Defending force 6833 troops, 55 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 162

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
32nd Infantry Division
2nd Marine Regiment
147th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
18th Garrison Unit
46th Naval Guard Unit
42nd JNAF AF Unit
44th JNAF AF Unit
45th JNAF AF Unit
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Overall, not too terrible, but the Georges sure had their way with the Spits and Kittyhawks. Makes sense in this mod as they're 30-40mph faster than those planes.

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Having just finished Gamble's Rabaul trilogy, I noted several things that I wish WitP AE could model. I mention this based on recent comments several people discussed about the Marshal Islands (need to conquer the entire chain) and fighter observations in your game and many others.

1. The Japanese Reisen was still a very capable plane through much of 1943 in the hands of a skilled pilot. It was a very good match to the P-38 and to a lesser extent the F6F and F4U. I think this models fairly well in the game at this stage.
2. The Japanese were defeated at Rabaul (and elsewhere) for a variety of reasons - pilot and crew illness, lack of aircraft service and parts, US submarine interdiction, and declining morale all played huge roles. Allied pilots and planes were never vastly superior to the Japanese, BUT Allied logistics and replacements were a deciding factor.
3. Japanese attrition losses were poorly trained in relation to their American counterparts.
4. Japan made large quantities of replacement planes but lack of transport logistics, and lack of ground-staff to service, UN-crate, and assemble new planes was another critical factor.

I think the game doesn't portray #2-4 well.

I do not for a moment consider myself an Allied fan, but I find it illogical to allow Japan has the capability (foresight) to build better planes early and escorts without some Allied counter. The Europe first strategy initially was 90% Europe and 10% Japan; this was increased to around 70/30 during the Solomons/NG campaign. If Japan had prevailed at Midway or Guadalcanal, the Allies would have needed to react accordingly.


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Status: offline 		Re: the resilience of the Japanese on Kwajalein, is it possible he is bringing in replacement troops via Mavis/Emily transport?
The Marshalls are ideal for operation of this kind of air bridge.

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I don't consider myself an Allied fan in the game, but I don't find it logical to allow Japan a broad capability (foresight) to build better planes early as well as many other perks without some Allied counter. The Europe first strategy initially was ninety percent Europe and ten percent Japan; this was increased to around seventy to thirty during the mid-Solomons/NG campaign. If Japan had prevailed at Midway or Guadalcanal, the Allies would have needed to react accordingly, Pearl Harbor was too strong an incentive for the Americans to end the fight. Unfortunately the Allies don't have this luxury of addressing worse than historical performance in this game. Historically the Allies were initially hampered by poor leadership and tactics; their tactics improved but the deciding factor was logistics, and quantities of materials produced. This flood of materials ultimately overwhelmed the Japanese when coupled with attrition of the Japanese merchant fleet and eventual destruction of Japan's industry. Sadly game mechanics lead to the Allied pursuit of campaigns in the DEI and the Asian main-land to deny assets to the Japanese at their production point rather than during their transit. Allied policy during the war was never to get embroiled on the continent as the goal was never to face the bulk of the Japanese army; the limited interventions in the DEI during 1945 were exactly that - limited. Consider Japan had over seven million men under arms in 1945; they had around 2.5 million men in 1941 to 42. Thirty years later, American attempts to fight in Vietnam proved the insanity of fighting a land war against an endlessly replenishing Army. Japan was a Naval power in the pacific, a Military power on land and a mercantile state that needed its merchant fleet to bring resources home. Destruction of Japanese naval and merchant marine forces as principal doctrine went back for decades in American planning with strategic bombing a relatively new concept.

All of that stated, Obvert is doing a great job against a very skilled Japanese opponent in a game that does not favor Allied victory in such circumstances.

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Re: the resilience of the Japanese on Kwajalein, is it possible he is bringing in replacement troops via Mavis/Emily transport?
The Marshalls are ideal for operation of this kind of air bridge.


I've considered that he could do this ( I do it extensively as Japan) but the risk is that then you lose twice as many troops for not much more gain. I think Nick is pragmatic in his defense so far. There are rules.

The rules state that he will not put too much too far forward even to slow the Allied movement there when the opportunity arises. CentPac is too far forward for him and as others have stated, already a lost cause. I'm moving around Kwajalein/Roi-Namur even as I battle for them. If anything I would guess he's pulling a few troops out.

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Strangely this portion deleted in the first post..so to continue...

I don't consider myself an Allied fan in the game, but I don't find it logical to allow Japan a broad capability (foresight) to build better planes early as well as many other perks without some Allied counter. The Europe first strategy initially was ninety percent Europe and ten percent Japan; this was increased to around seventy to thirty during the mid-Solomons/NG campaign. If Japan had prevailed at Midway or Guadalcanal, the Allies would have needed to react accordingly, Pearl Harbor was too strong an incentive for the Americans to end the fight. Unfortunately the Allies don't have this luxury of addressing worse than historical performance in this game. Historically the Allies were initially hampered by poor leadership and tactics; their tactics improved but the deciding factor was logistics, and quantities of materials produced. This flood of materials ultimately overwhelmed the Japanese when coupled with attrition of the Japanese merchant fleet and eventual destruction of Japan's industry. Sadly game mechanics lead to the Allied pursuit of campaigns in the DEI and the Asian main-land to deny assets to the Japanese at their production point rather than during their transit. Allied policy during the war was never to get embroiled on the continent as the goal was never to face the bulk of the Japanese army; the limited interventions in the DEI during 1945 were exactly that - limited. Consider Japan had over seven million men under arms in 1945; they had around 2.5 million men in 1941 to 42. Thirty years later, American attempts to fight in Vietnam proved the insanity of fighting a land war against an endlessly replenishing Army. Japan was a Naval power in the pacific, a Military power on land and a mercantile state that needed its merchant fleet to bring resources home. Destruction of Japanese naval and merchant marine forces as principal doctrine went back for decades in American planning with strategic bombing a relatively new concept.

All of that stated, Obvert is doing a great job against a very skilled Japanese opponent in a game that does not favor Allied victory in such circumstances.


All of your points are very good and valid. You even miss a few like the Volcanic dust that plagued engines at Vanukanau airfield at Rabaul and the lack of good radar/spotting networks (at least early on) to warn of incoming raids, their lack of good aircraft dispersal at many airfields plus the inflexible doctrine that pushed them to keep sending in replacements to airfields that were obviously untenable after the Allies gained air superiority.

Add to that the coast watchers and other warning networks in place for the Allies plus the increasing native resentment of the Japanese in the entire Solomons/New Britain/New Guinea areas and the Japanese were fighting too many types of battles too far from home to find success.

It is different in game, but I think we accept this as it's a greater challenge. It makes playing Japan more tenable for the years it takes to play this game, and it also forces the Allies to play smart, not just rip through with no fear of losing anything due to the weight of stuff arriving (at least before 44).

Political and colonial interests are also not portrayed in game, and those might have had more to do with the Allies not landing in Sumatra or Java in the war, although it certainly would have led to some logistical difficulties in reality as well.

All together this is a very fun ride, and since Nick has agreed to playing PDU-off (with the caveat of the extra troops and air groups of Scen 30), and is loving it, I'm fine with the differences to real world capabilities. I don't play for simulation, but I do like to imagine that I'm dealing with the same kinds of problems as the commanders faced then. They were pretty good. Can I get close to what they accomplished?

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Rise of the Lurker

Having just finished Gamble's Rabaul trilogy, I noted several things that I wish WitP AE could model. I mention this based on recent comments several people discussed about the Marshal Islands (need to conquer the entire chain) and fighter observations in your game and many others.

1. The Japanese Reisen was still a very capable plane through much of 1943 in the hands of a skilled pilot. It was a very good match to the P-38 and to a lesser extent the F6F and F4U. I think this models fairly well in the game at this stage.
2. The Japanese were defeated at Rabaul (and elsewhere) for a variety of reasons - pilot and crew illness, lack of aircraft service and parts, US submarine interdiction, and declining morale all played huge roles. Allied pilots and planes were never vastly superior to the Japanese, BUT Allied logistics and replacements were a deciding factor.
3. Japanese attrition losses were poorly trained in relation to their American counterparts.
4. Japan made large quantities of replacement planes but lack of transport logistics, and lack of ground-staff to service, UN-crate, and assemble new planes was another critical factor.

I think the game doesn't portray #2-4 well.

I do not for a moment consider myself an Allied fan, but I find it illogical to allow Japan has the capability (foresight) to build better planes early and escorts without some Allied counter. The Europe first strategy initially was 90% Europe and 10% Japan; this was increased to around 70/30 during the Solomons/NG campaign. If Japan had prevailed at Midway or Guadalcanal, the Allies would have needed to react accordingly.



PS - This may be a repeat for you after the Rabaul trilogy, but I'm reading "Fortress Over the Pacific" right now and it's very detailed and revealing of the problems the Allies faced as well in terms of logistics and operations, not all of which are mirrored in game.

It does point out though that the Fortress was just that; a castle in the sky that was perilous for a Japanese pilot to attempt an attack on. yes, they were shot down, but nearly every encounter includes a tally of destroyed zeros, and in many of those encounters all of the B-17s made it home. The real problem was getting enough to the point of attack due to the lack of parts, insufficient ground crews and facilities (at least up until mid-43) and horrible weather conditions.

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SO PAC: This was a crazy few days. First the Marines turn the advantage decidedly to the Allies at buin and the base is captured in a 6:1 attack. Base forces and support move in and land over the next few days, but ...

... Nick goes all in to hit them. This actually looks worse than it is for the Allies, just by chance, and I feel pretty good about the results. The aerial assault hits a TF that is mostly small Dutch caps worth 2 points each carrying an Aviation Engineer battalion. If there is one thing the Allies can afford to lose it's engineers!!

Luckily the entire base force had landed and much of the Marine Defense battalion. So now the base is repairing, some damaged ships are disbanded in the port, and CAP is moving into place to protect the base. On the day the Japanese lose over 190 planes according to reports, and that means we also have a bunch of new aces.

I'm loading up looking for an opportunity to land at Torokina now. He still has a large naval presence at Rabaul, but I have some ideas about that.

INDIA: Nick hits the reinforcements for Addu with 60+ Bettys!! Yikes. I didn't think to put CAP here yet, but he was bold and we failed to make him pay a price. Le Triomphant will make it, but two xAPs will not. Troops are saved by the other ships, which is nice.

Getting some supply into Chittagong and the area by sea now.

CENT PAC: Kwajalein is hit hard from the air. Troops will land and hopefully this time they'll get the base first try after some BBs bombard. I've got one embedded and three in a separate bombardment TF.

CHINA: The Chinese are getting pushed all over now, and hopefully I can still retreat a bunch to the NW. Wenchow receives an attack and the defense does well to injure the Japanese, but only lots of disabledments.

SIGINT: Interesting. I'l bet this is heading to the Marianas or to the Kuriles. Oh, wait, lookie here!

It changed destination already, so at least I can vector subs to the general area.

Also, another ship report, this time a CL in Darwin port. To much CAP and not enough escort range to hit it though.

31/12th Division is loaded on AK Hirokawa Maru moving to Tokyo.-24th
49/12th Division is loaded on a Ehime Cargo class xAK moving to Tokyo.

8/12th Division is loaded on a Yusen S class AK moving to Biak.
43/12th Division is loaded on xAP Kamakura Maru moving to Biak.
-24th-25th

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 23, 43
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Night Naval bombardment of Buin at 109,131

Allied Ships
CL Columbia
CL Nashville
CL Honolulu
DD Balch
DD McCall
DD Woodworth
DD Waller
DD Chevalier

Japanese ground losses:
520 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 3 disabled

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 62
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CL Columbia
CL Columbia firing at Buin

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Night Naval bombardment of Buin at 109,131

Allied Ships
BB Massachusetts
BB Indiana
DD Stanly
DD Jenkins
DD Eaton
DD Cony
DD Conway
DD Bache
DD Abbot
DD Fletcher

Japanese ground losses:
250 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 2

BB Massachusetts firing at 18th Garrison Unit
BB Indiana firing at Buin

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Morning Air attack on Buin , at 109,131

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 8
B-17E Fortress x 36
B-24D1 Liberator x 3
P-38G Lightning x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 18
P-40E Warhawk x 25
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 77,47 (near Chungking)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23008 troops, 438 guns, 1866 vehicles, Assault Value = 1053

Defending force 49542 troops, 85 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 881

Japanese adjusted assault: 758

Allied adjusted defense: 253

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
422 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Vehicles lost 22 (2 destroyed, 20 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
13894 casualties reported
Squads: 373 destroyed, 111 disabled
Non Combat: 567 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 7 (6 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 12

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
23rd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Division
3rd Tank Division
9th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
28th Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
54th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
1st New Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
86th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
Y' Force
5th War Area
Central Reserve

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Ground combat at Buin (109,131)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16359 troops, 291 guns, 177 vehicles, Assault Value = 450

Defending force 6076 troops, 55 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 150

Allied adjusted assault: 790

Japanese adjusted defense: 123

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Buin !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1606 casualties reported
Squads: 56 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 85 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 16 (13 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Allied ground losses:
271 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
32nd Infantry Division
2nd Marine Regiment
147th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
18th Garrison Unit
46th Naval Guard Unit
44th JNAF AF Unit
42nd JNAF AF Unit
45th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Finschhafen (100,126)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7819 troops, 86 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 409

Defending force 21208 troops, 303 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 562

Allied ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
1st Marine Regiment
7th Marine Regiment

Defending units:
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
1st Guards Division
Combined 8th SNLF
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
15th AA Regiment
51st Base Force
107th JAAF AF Bn /1
9th Field Const Bn /1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 24, 43
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Addu at 16,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 31
G4M1 Betty x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Thracian
DD Le Triomphant, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAP Takliwa, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Chilka, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Talma
xAP Khedive Ismail, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
31 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp


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Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 33692 troops, 300 guns, 110 vehicles, Assault Value = 1057

Defending force 26259 troops, 98 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 797

Japanese adjusted assault: 1569

Allied adjusted defense: 2512

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1635 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 217 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1795 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 146 disabled
Non Combat: 31 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Assaulting units:
58th Division
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
70th Division
65th Division
39th Ind Engineer Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Army
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
100th Chinese Corps
88th Chinese Corps
16th Construction Regiment
25th Group Army
3rd War Area
14th Chinese Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 25, 43
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Finschhafen at 100,126, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
LB-125
LB-126, Shell hits 4
LB-127, Shell hits 1
LB-128, Shell hits 2
LB-129
LB-130
LB-131, Shell hits 1
LB-132, Shell hits 1
LB-133, Shell hits 6
LB-134, Shell hits 8, on fire
LB-135, Shell hits 7
LB-501, Shell hits 27

Allied Ships
PT-65
PT-104
PT-105
PT-108
PT-109
PT-112

Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 1,000 yards

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Morning Air attack on Buin , at 109,131

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 32

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 7
P-38G Lightning x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 19
F4F-4 Wildcat x 26
F4U-1 Corsair x 19
F6F-3 Hellcat x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 5 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 36
B6N1 Jill x 4
D4Y1 Judy x 65
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 36

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 6
P-38G Lightning x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 16 destroyed
B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAP Van der Lijn, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
xAP President Tyler, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PT-31
xAP Van Riebeek, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Le Maire, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Camphuys, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Mijer, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
xAP David W. Branch, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Baranof, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAP Van den Bosch
PC Yandra, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Rajput, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Wo Sang, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Aleutian, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
SC-744, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Princess Elaine, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
1801 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 72 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 39 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 54 (41 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 50 (34 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N1 Jill x 36

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 13
F6F-3 Hellcat x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N1 Jill: 20 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Rajput, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP David W. Branch, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIb Lily x 47

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 6
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIb Lily: 8 destroyed, 10 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
PT-190
xAP Princess Elaine, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
PT-219
xAP Van den Bosch
xAP Van Outhoorn
PT-220
xAK Wo Sang, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Van Rees, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 87 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y1 Judy x 32
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 19

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 6
P-38G Lightning x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 15
F4F-4 Wildcat x 25
F4U-1 Corsair x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y1 Judy: 15 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Wo Sang, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Van Rees, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Van Outhoorn, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 4
D4Y1 Judy x 19

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 6
P-38G Lightning x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 15
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP David W. Branch, heavy fires
xAP Aleutian, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Baranof, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

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Lots of Judys, Jills and A6M5 downed. I have to remove the aces from the P-39 and Wildcat groups now before they get mauled as escorts or lower CAP during George sweeps!

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A few xAKs here worth some points, but nothing too bad. Still, I hate losing ships. I know it's inevitable though, and in this case both in VPs and in available lift for troops in the area, this is not too bad.




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