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R3 update - 6/10/2003 7:36:17 PM   
red

 

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patriot101

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R4 - 6/10/2003 7:40:20 PM   
red

 

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Status: offline 		patriot101, you have 2/2 status which qualifies you for Round 4 regardless of the outcome of your Round 3 game with BORO. Let me know if you can handle two games at a time.

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Next round? - 6/11/2003 3:20:18 AM   
patriot101

 

Posts: 22
Joined: 3/7/2003
From: Ohio
Status: offline 		Does this mean ThomasBell is eliminated after the first battle of the second round? Just want to be sure. I think he had lost both battles in the first round, but is he eliminated already before the second battle of round 2? Just trying to clarify the rules. I am new to this WC stuff.

I am going to be going on vacation on June 13 - June 24, and I have not yet scored a laptop to take with me to keep current on WC. I guess this could technically eliminate me, since I won't be able to respond after 3 days to my turns. I realize i got a late start in the WC, and had a long delay before getting an opponent for round 3, so I don't want to bog the WC down. If BORO is not able to wait till 6/24 for me to start, I can understand that.

I don't think I can handle two games simultaneously until after 6/24 either. If I magically get my hands on a laptop by the end of the day Thursday (that has a modem), I will leave a post back in here.

In any event, this is a very exciting tournament, and I have learned a lot from it.

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- 6/11/2003 4:16:32 AM   
rbrunsman


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From: Phoenix, AZ
Status: offline 		The three day rule is just for people without excuses. If you give notice of an absence there is no problem. But try to get caught up when you get back. Enjoy the vacation!

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Patriot 101 game clarification - 6/11/2003 7:52:06 AM   
Rick Borovec

 

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Joined: 3/21/2001
From: Rochester, Washington
Status: offline 		I'm about to finish (3 turns left) my round 3 game with Lars Scharfschutze. It appears that he will win. That will put me 2 wins, 1 loss.

Patriot 101 is 2/2. So wouldn't this be a round 4 game? I have no problem waiting until 6/24 to get it going.

Thanks for the clarification.

Boro;)

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- 6/11/2003 8:21:47 AM   
red

 

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Status: offline 		Boro, you are right, I didn't look through the whole list for Round 3 so your engagement with patriot101 is off.

patriot101, enjoy your vacation, you made it to Round 4 so you can pick it up when you come back.

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Thanks - 6/11/2003 8:28:06 AM   
patriot101

 

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Joined: 3/7/2003
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info. I will try to get some rest for the next round. I am sure it is going to get tougher now. I will try not to listen for landing craft at the beach.....

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GOOD LUCK - 6/11/2003 8:35:05 AM   
ThomasBELL123

 

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Joined: 4/19/2001
From: Port Hueneme Ca. 93041
Status: offline 		Guys


That was my third battle.

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WC Round3 Turn 22 - 6/12/2003 2:09:03 AM   
Ironfist

 

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Joined: 3/22/2002
From: Cincinnati,Ohio.
Status: offline 		+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
OKW: Ironfist vs M4Jess is almost done. Four turns left. Heavey fighting accross the board. It will all be descided by pure point score. No-one has a clear advantage. German's advancing on V-hexs. Das ist allest....
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

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BUMP - 6/12/2003 4:26:50 AM   
VikingNo2


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Joined: 1/26/2002
From: NC
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Scharfschütze


Ok guy with the long name what are the terms ?


email me at [email]gregoryjj@hawaii.rr.com[/email]

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red - 6/13/2003 10:00:23 AM   
ThomasBELL123

 

Posts: 82
Joined: 4/19/2001
From: Port Hueneme Ca. 93041
Status: offline 		im 0/3. should i kill myself?

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Just a thought - 6/13/2003 2:36:13 PM   
Ironfist

 

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Joined: 3/22/2002
From: Cincinnati,Ohio.
Status: offline 		Sure, why not avoid all the Red tape. :p

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11th SS Freiwilligen Nordland Div.
23rd SS PzrGdr. Reg. Norge.
7th Kompanie 1st Zug.
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- 6/13/2003 7:49:59 PM   
Scharfschütze

 

Posts: 538
Joined: 8/27/2001
From: Germany
Status: offline 		Victory in my Rd. 3 game against Rick Borovec:

9186:4347 for a german marginal victory. Game saw slow scouting to ~Turn15, when the Americans attacked in the southern sector. (They kinda had to. I had shot some tanks in the scouting with no losses and was leading in points)

After a few tight turns, I was able to counterattack and destroy the assault coloumn almost totally, still they came within inches of penetrating my lines for good.

Viking Nr.2, email is on the way!

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- 6/13/2003 8:12:20 PM   
Belisarius


Posts: 4041
Joined: 5/26/2001
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Status: offline 		Lost vs. Willy, ~2700 to ~8000 marginal defeat.

We are both 1/3 now if I remember correctly.

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Got StuG?

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I need another opponent... - 6/17/2003 2:38:10 PM   
Brutto-Bob


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Joined: 10/24/2000
From: Genoa, Liguria, Italy
Status: offline 		I received this reply from Rokondo:

"Hi,
I am sorry but I can not play, I do not have much time
Say to the others and good luck to you "

So I need another opponent to play the 4th turn.

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Round 4 - 6/18/2003 12:14:06 AM   
Rick Borovec

 

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Joined: 3/21/2001
From: Rochester, Washington
Status: offline 		Red

Since Brutto-Bob needs an opponent, and my match with Patriot101 was cancelled, how about Boro vs. Brutto-Bob?

Boro:p

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- 6/20/2003 4:32:35 AM   
M4Jess


Posts: 5140
Joined: 1/17/2002
From: DC
Status: offline 		Hats off to Ironfist! in the end I hust did not have enough to hold the VHs, I was hoping for a point win, but this madman just kept coming and coming!


Great fight and I hope for a chance for revenge!

Hats off Iron! and great luck to you in round 4!

M4 Jess~~outta this one!:(

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Resaults Round 3 - 6/20/2003 5:04:01 AM   
Ironfist

 

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Joined: 3/22/2002
From: Cincinnati,Ohio.
Status: offline 		Germany Is Victorious :eek: 12,305 to 8283. That gives me one loss and two wins. Great game M4Jess. I thought you had more troops in reserve. Guess I was going to hold v-hexs after all. Do you play any leauge games at "the Blitz.org" site ? I thought for sure you were going to over run me. I will be happy to give you a re-match. At the moment I have had rematches with panzerwilly and aussem. You can pick the set-up. :D

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11th SS Freiwilligen Nordland Div.
23rd SS PzrGdr. Reg. Norge.
7th Kompanie 1st Zug.
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Where is Red? - 6/24/2003 9:46:10 AM   
ThomasBELL123

 

Posts: 82
Joined: 4/19/2001
From: Port Hueneme Ca. 93041
Status: offline 		What's up?

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I am back - 6/25/2003 6:20:15 AM   
patriot101

 

Posts: 22
Joined: 3/7/2003
From: Ohio
Status: offline 		I am back from vacation and ready for the next round....

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back - 6/27/2003 10:08:43 PM   
red

 

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Joined: 8/21/2000
From: FL,US
Status: offline 		Ok, I'm back, I see you guys are getting restless :D
I will look ove the thread today and post the new matchups.

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- 6/28/2003 1:34:42 AM   
sztartur2


Posts: 672
Joined: 7/24/2002
From: Budapest,Hungary
Status: offline 		I'm ready for round 4.

Artur.

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status - 6/29/2003 6:37:02 AM   
red

 

Posts: 555
Joined: 8/21/2000
From: FL,US
Status: offline 		My roster log indicates the following

ThomasBELL123 has 0/3 so that eliminates him from the game.

BORO has 1/3 status and which makes him part of Good luck group where one will be picked to proceed to Round 4.

The following ppl are waiting for Round 4 game

sztartur:2/3
Brutto-Bob:2/3
Ironfist:2/3

given that sztartur and Brutto-Bob became eligible earlier than Ironfist, they can play each other in Round 4 game so it is

sztartur
vs
Brutto-Bob

From what I see M4 Jess is out also which leaves only two people with record of 1/2:Gary Tatro and Stonefire.

Once I know their status, I'll randomly draw one of 1/3 ppl to proceed to Round 4 game which will probably be against Ironfist.

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Excuse Me - 6/30/2003 7:58:10 AM   
Rick Borovec

 

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Joined: 3/21/2001
From: Rochester, Washington
Status: offline 		Red,
Your records are incorrect. My win/loss record is 2 and 1. I beat Birdgunner in the 1st Round, Rob W in the 2nd, lost to Lars Scharfschutze in the 3rd. I believe that qualifies to move into the 4th round.

Tried to set up a 4th round opponent before you went on holiday, and In your absence Brutto-Bob and I started a game that we considered a round 4 game. If this doesn't meet with your approval, thats fine, we'll just play it for fun. We are in turn 4. If you look back a page or two you'll see where we asked for your permission.

Please advise, thanks!:) :)

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Round 4 Results - 6/30/2003 8:40:09 AM   
rbrunsman


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Joined: 1/31/2002
From: Phoenix, AZ
Status: offline 		rbrunsman v Aussem

Aussem surrenders in turn 10.

rbrunsman moves to round 5.

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Post #: 505
- 6/30/2003 4:56:22 PM   
VikingNo2


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From: NC
Status: offline 		Win or lose this next match I think I may withdraw from the tournement, its too difficult to negotiate, and when you don't go over every little detail at length then you open your self up, for anything.


Lust to clarify a point I thought in general that you couldn't call reinforcements until turn 10 in a 20 turn game ?

Is that correct or am I smoking crack !!!!!!!!!!

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- 6/30/2003 7:17:06 PM   
Scharfschütze

 

Posts: 538
Joined: 8/27/2001
From: Germany
Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by VikingNo2
[B]Win or lose this next match I think I may withdraw from the tournement, its too difficult to negotiate, and when you don't go over every little detail at length then you open your self up, for anything.


Lust to clarify a point I thought in general that you couldn't call reinforcements until turn 10 in a 20 turn game ?

Is that correct or am I smoking crack !!!!!!!!!! [/B][/QUOTE]

First, let me assure you that I was totally unaware of any mentioning of this! :(

I leafed through the earlier posts of this thread and happened upon a post by Gary Tatro on top of page 17, where he states:

[QUOTE]
7) REQUESTING REINFORCEMENTS ON TURN 1: This is where your opponent requests reinforcemtents on turn 1 then refuses engagment until his AUX units get to the front then overwelms you with superior numerical forces.

.......Ways to avoid this, suggest a designated time before reiforcements can be requested. My rule of thumb ussually is not to request reinforcements until I need them, but to lay a ground rule I have started asking for no reinforcements until turn 10.[/QUOTE]

while RED states on p. 18 that "calling reinforcements isn´t against the rules" (okay, niothing definite here
and elaborates rules of engagement on p.19

[QUOTE]
Standard Setup
--------------
* C&C OFF
* True Rarity ON
* 10% artillery includes all units capable of indirect fire.
* No pre-laid Mines
* Meeting engagement
* 1 Platoon infiltrators Max (4 squads) no minimum.
* 2 airstrikes Max. (4 planes) No mIn.
* game points 4000-7000

Note: Both players can agree on different terms if they want.
[/QUOTE]

I might add that i have used AUX and have seen used AUX against me before Turn 10 in my previous games.

Gregory, I hope this isn´t too inconvenient for you. Those T-34s arrived just in time to save the day... if they aren´t dead yet, haven´t seen the last turn yet.

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Let's what Supreme Court has to say about it - 7/2/2003 8:08:11 PM   
red

 

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Status: offline 		Until SC rules ...
Reinforcements are a little tricky. Calling them in on first turn isn't fair but then again it goes to the quality of the player and a particular situation, if one uses reinfrocements when faced with certain defeat that's reasonable to use but when they are used as plan of general tactics against your opponent, that isn't reasonable. Again depends on the situation.

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- 7/2/2003 8:10:48 PM   
red

 

Posts: 555
Joined: 8/21/2000
From: FL,US
Status: offline 		My apologies to BORO for my bad record keeping, I'll adjust the matches up today.

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R4 update - 7/2/2003 11:45:31 PM   
red

 

Posts: 555
Joined: 8/21/2000
From: FL,US
Status: offline 		sztartur
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Ironfist

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