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Adjusting - 7/14/2003 12:08:22 AM

Gavris Narcis

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Hi !

All this changes were accurate. Good work. But is still a great work to do on HE penetration values for all shells in all OOB's. After many many searches I arrived at the conclusions that ALL he shells must have a penetration 1/6 of own diameter !!
And when the dividing is not precise it must to be adjusted above.
For example: an 150 mm shell have an 1/6*150mm=25 mm penetration tickness. An 280 mm have 46,66 and it must be 47 not 46 !!!! Here the mortars have to be treated like in reality not like in H2H where the values were incredible low !
For AP values all it's O.K. in 7.1 version. I search militay formulas and were good enough.

Leo.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BryanMelvin
[B]The new OOBs are being finalized. Many a fix has gone into to improving combat results.

I did lessen the 50 cal and 12.7 HMG HE penetrates rates as these were too high but I also increase all other HMG's MMHs HE Penetration values to more WW II realistic levels.

HMG's will rain Havoc on Trucks and HT's if these get too close.

HMG, MMG, and LMG will suppress armor slightly more than before when fired from short ranges.

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- 7/16/2003 2:08:03 AM

dlazov

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Not to throw too much water on the fire but...

[QUOTE]
One of the main problems with the SP series is that you only have 249 slots in oobs to make units.
[/QUOTE]

This was fixed in the SP WW2/MBT release's:

Units = 599
Weapons = 249
Formation = 399

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Mobelwagen is wrong - 7/22/2003 4:57:53 AM

Kevin E. Duguay

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Please fix this vehicle before the new release. It should be armed with the 37mm flak43. (1 tube ) Only the original prototype and possibly a few field mods were armed with the 20mmFlakvierling.

Thank you

:)

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- 8/19/2003 8:45:26 AM

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Will the US 57mm recoilless rifle be included? I saw a reference that the 17th Airborne used it in the jump over the Rhine?

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- 8/19/2003 10:30:30 PM

BryanMelvin

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Overlord
[B]Will the US 57mm recoilless rifle be included? I saw a reference that the 17th Airborne used it in the jump over the Rhine? [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes, I can add it in.

As fro release date for OOBs 8.0 - David Heath at Matrixgames has the last word :eek:

During this time, we are fine tuning the OOBs. I hope to have the AI selection of forces for Long Campaigns and Battle Games improved soon. This will aid the game much more :D

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- 8/22/2003 12:03:28 AM

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THANKS!

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RE: - 2/25/2004 4:18:20 PM

o4r

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Maybe the recon status for the command unit of any company may be removed. It is noted that during some email game, some of them purchase such unit in mass. They will purchase the company and delete the rest, leaving the 2 or 1 company commander unit which will automatically equip with recon status. Such unit is espically good at scouting. Now I know why some ppl purchase so many unit in 2... they didnt purchase the section but they are using the company commander.

Losing such unit loss more point but they are harder to ambush thus making them hardier to kill.

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RE: Update SPWAW OOB's - 3/3/2004 5:07:12 AM

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Can whom ever is handling the German OOB please check this unit: SP Arty Unit PzA LrS(f). It fires a 150mm SFH18 L18 gun with a range of only 49 hexes. Yet its counterpart at this period is the standard German 150mm howiitzer SFH18 L30 that fires at a range of 200 hexes. Is there that much different between the L18 and L30 tubes or ammo? Its only one fourth in range?

Thanks for taking the time.

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RE: Update SPWAW OOB's - 3/3/2004 5:16:22 AM

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Hi Bryan:

Will the transport thay we used in MCWT be placed in the Norway OOB? I think there are two - a cool looking Liberty Ship and a Japanese Transport.

Also, Mike Amos designed an experimental German tank (NbFz PzKpfw VI-Krupp) that was used in the invasion of Norway and wonder if there is room in the Norway OOB for this too? He did a great job on the pic and i hate to see it wasted.

Thanks. Keep up the great work. We all appreciate it.

Recon
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RE: Update SPWAW OOB's - 3/3/2004 5:22:22 AM

Kevin E. Duguay

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Hold that thought!! That Icon is being fixed as we speak by Warhorse. Just a minor thing, should not take long!!

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RE: - 3/3/2004 5:38:23 AM

Major Destruction

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Overlord

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Overlord
[B]Did the HE Kill for the .50cal/12.7's get adjusted down any?

How about the HE Pen for the 20mm AA guns, did it get any?

Thanks [/B][/QUOTE]

Was there any info on this? Will the 20mm's be able to kill now?

Thanks

I sincerely hope we found all the AA guns and fixed them once and for all.

< Message edited by Major Destruction -- 3/2/2004 7:39:54 PM >

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RE: Mobelwagen is wrong - 3/3/2004 5:39:10 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kevin E. Duguay

Please fix this vehicle before the new release. It should be armed with the 37mm flak43. (1 tube ) Only the original prototype and possibly a few field mods were armed with the 20mmFlakvierling.

Thank you

:)

Done

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RE: Update SPWAW OOB's - 3/3/2004 5:44:40 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BruceAZ

Hi Bryan:

Will the transport thay we used in MCWT be placed in the Norway OOB? I think there are two - a cool looking Liberty Ship and a Japanese Transport.

Do you remember the icon number that was used?

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