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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 9/23/2014 10:10:10 PM   
Michael T


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Status: offline 		FWIW here is my current list of conditions (for v1.08) for setting up a game, whether Axis or Soviet.

1941 GC Sudden Death
Server game
Locked HQ Support
Full FOW

House Rules:
No Para drops at all.
No bombing of air bases more than 3 times a turn (after turn 1)
No bombing of HQ's unless stacked with a ground unit

Additional Auto VC:
If the Axis player holds
Leningrad, Moscow, Voronezh and Rostov concurrently at any time in 1941 he wins
an Auto Victory.

Optional Rules Setup:
Standard Blizzard Rules
Non Random Weather
No 1-1 to 2-1
Forts 75


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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 9/24/2014 10:04:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Time for a spoiler We're close to release now, and I don't think the event log will change much at this point, so I decided to reveal it to you. I'm interested to know if you like it better than the current one.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 9/24/2014 10:30:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like it! Can't wait for the release...Thank you and the other developers for all your hard dedicated work.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 9/24/2014 11:55:51 AM   
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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 9/24/2014 2:05:28 PM   
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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 9/24/2014 2:27:14 PM   
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Nice that the event log shows NM.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 9/29/2014 6:03:38 AM   
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Event log is excellent.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 9/29/2014 7:41:10 AM   
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Thx guys

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 9/30/2014 12:26:31 PM   
Commanderski


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Status: offline 		So how close are we on the release? Like kids in a car on a long trip... Are we there yet?

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 9/30/2014 12:28:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		We try to arrange some PBEM games now, to see if the balance is totally ruined or just altered a bit :)

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:11:11 PM   
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quote:

morvael

We try to arrange some PBEM games now, to see if the balance is totally ruined or just altered a bit :)



Why not release it to public rather sooner than later, so we will be able to do beta-testing like we did for year after release :)

As long as balance is relatively ok publishing patch might actually be quickest way of fixing possible (and inevitable) imbalances - more people paying, more available and reliable data to assess and address problems.

< Message edited by Kamil -- 10/1/2014 8:16:17 PM >

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:20:08 PM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		We just want to find out whether balance is relatively ok, or completely tossed out of the window

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:33:46 PM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		carlkay58 did some good test vs AI in Smolensk scenario.
Pelton is playing GC 41 with himself 24/7 to reach First Winter before the end of the weekend.
I'm waiting for a turn from timmyab in Moscow 41-42 PBEM.
Some others offered their feedback and so must have played the game a bit too.
My laptop completed GC 41 in 43 hours.

edit: Yes, we know that public betatesting will be the best, we just have to catch worst problems first. The problem is we can't pester 2by3 and Matrix for compiling the game and publishing beta installers every two days, when major bugs or total lack of balance will be discovered. For the private beta it's up to me whether to build new exe and upload it for the testers. Sometimes I made 2-3 per day. My archive folder tells me I made ~106 versions of the game for the testers since May 18th (when the first one was made), includng 15 comprehensive versions (with updated data files, not just the main .exe). This feat can't be repeated in public beta mode.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:34:58 PM   
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1) Doing public betas gets too much "noise", ie errors in feedback, incomplete or confusing feedback, etc which burns a lot of time to sort through.
2) Better (more efficient) to use a dedicated cadre of experienced beta testers, or alpha testers if possible.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:38:47 PM   
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Some others offered their feedback and so must have played the game a bit too.


How can I get my hands on this beta?

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:40:06 PM   
KamilS

 

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Status: offline 		Thank you for your prompt and in depth answers.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:48:33 PM   
morvael


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ORIGINAL: Oshawott

quote:

Some others offered their feedback and so must have played the game a bit too.


How can I get my hands on this beta?


You could volunteer for it, as for Joel's approval, sign an NDA with Matrix and wait to get access to dev forums. Might take longer than the time to publish public beta. Or it might take less time. Who knows?

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:52:25 PM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		To make your wait time easier (or harder), some screens. Spot the differences between 1.08 and 1.07:





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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:54:28 PM   
morvael


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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:56:47 PM   
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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 7:57:50 PM   
morvael


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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/1/2014 8:25:51 PM   
Commanderski


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Status: offline 		As posted before...Thank you for the detailed update and the previews, which look great!... We can wait until it's ready.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/2/2014 6:30:28 AM   
SigUp

 

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Status: offline 		Different air and ground equipment percentages? So no more stockpiling of thousands of German planes? Hooray!

Production for Bulgaria and Yugoslavia?

Separating of AFV and SP & AC? Finally a tracker showing the men returned? Hooray!

I love you all.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/2/2014 6:39:05 AM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		There is still many more differences to spot, but SigUp has found some.

However, the separate air percentage (based on ground percentage*0.75) for Germany and Italy was always there, but this time it's visible.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/2/2014 12:11:43 PM   
Commanderski


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Status: offline 		In the Losses screen SP & AC losses is new along with Men Returned and Vehicles Captured. There is also 4 more Vehicle Losses categories and a total of all vehicles lost.

The combat screen is more detailed giving you the names of the commanders of both forces engaged.

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/2/2014 12:20:12 PM   
morvael


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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/2/2014 1:45:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Battle report date format is different, the modified CV is now inline with with the normal CV and HQ names are now bold.

BTW, not having played WITE in a few months (and now eagerly awaiting this patch to get into it again), will it be possible to assign non-Security divisions or brigades to RHG HQs? I never understood that restriction, presumably to discourage players from using RHGs as front armies, but several scenarios have non-Security units attached to RHG

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/2/2014 2:18:48 PM   
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1) Different date display
2) Commander shown below the unit counter on the right
3) Motor pool changed to Vehicle Pool
4) Supply and Fuel Depots changed to Supply and Fuel Dumps
5) Panzer III L
6) Added another digit for the combat odds

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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/2/2014 5:59:04 PM   
schascha


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RE: Any news on the 1.08 patch? - 10/2/2014 6:22:37 PM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		Sorry, it'n not a feature of 1.08, that's only because it's an AI vs AI game and AI doesn't suffere these penalties.

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