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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 9/29/2014 12:50:23 AM   
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IRL Japan was too worried about the Russians coming in if they weakened their defenses to the degree a Japanese player does in AE. I almost feel the need for Russia to be activate at start to prevent China from being overrun in early '42.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 9/29/2014 2:00:48 AM   
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I like that idea ny59giants.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 9/29/2014 3:51:06 AM   
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The whole design team has tried to work up ways to SLOW DOWN the Japanese taking of China and, conversely, the Allied re-conquest of the same. We've raised garrison requirements for both sides, added some supply to the Chinese, and raised starting Fortification numbers. What more can one do?

Problem that I have with EITHER side is that the game is called War in the PACIFIC: Admiral's Edition.

As a JFB I want to take a certain portion of China to 'clean it up' and make for a defensible line. After that I am done. Japan could never have truly taken ALL of China; therefore, I do not even try. Usually when I reach the line I want, I offer a six month renewable truce to my opponent. If one side or the other plans to leave the truce then notice must be given 30 days ahead of the end of the six month window.


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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 9/29/2014 4:09:18 AM   
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BTW, the French 15" guns on the Richelieu class were the most powerful ever built of that caliber. Too bad they never saw much use IRL,


Surprisingly enough, they were fired in anger against the USS Massachusetts during the November '42 invasions in French North Africa. No hits, however.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 9/29/2014 8:41:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

IRL Japan was too worried about the Russians coming in if they weakened their defenses to the degree a Japanese player does in AE. I almost feel the need for Russia to be activate at start to prevent China from being overrun in early '42.


THAT would keep the tanks in Manchuria!

Too much though. The Russians may not have much of an air force at this pout, but the army is already decent and would give the Japanese fits if it was rolling in 42. It could be fun, and tense, but I think would end in an early Japanese collapse. Maybe a Scen 2/30 game would be viable with the Russians active.

China presents problems, but regardless of if the game is mostly about the Pacific, it ultimately has to be decided on land everywhere. The CBI is a vital part of that, and it would just be better if the mechanism for the Japanese movement in China had greater restraints the father it moved, as in life, so that it would be much less able to ultimately take ALL of China assuming decent defensive play, but could still choose portions to carve up for a while.

The difficulty with just turning China off is that it also makes useless a large portion of the Japanese Army that you don't have the PPs to move out to fight elsewhere.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 9/29/2014 9:25:18 AM   
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There is a reason that the components for Japan's 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions come in as reinforcements in Manchuria, not the Home Islands or someplace else.

A few years ago, I got the book Nomonhan, 1939 by Stuart D. Goldman. There is a reason Japanese tanks were deployed mainly in Manchuria.

Right now, a month into this game, its only China where I feel I'm in trouble. The 800 lb gorilla called the USA is ALWAYS the deciding factor in this war.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 9/29/2014 11:31:14 AM   
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Too much though. The Russians may not have much of an air force at this pout, but the army is already decent and would give the Japanese fits if it was rolling in 42. It could be fun, and tense, but I think would end in an early Japanese collapse. Maybe a Scen 2/30 game would be viable with the Russians active.



I think an active USSR would perhaps be too much at any time, but as a counter you should look at the LCU withdrawal queue for the USSR in 1942. Many, many units go away for historically understandable reasons. In 1942 that portion of the map is actually pretty much a big balloon. Not saying Japan could walk in, but it might be possible if India/Oz adventures were curtailed. And it would certainly change the end game if those forces and bases were not available to the Allies.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 9/29/2014 2:11:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert


Too much though. The Russians may not have much of an air force at this pout, but the army is already decent and would give the Japanese fits if it was rolling in 42. It could be fun, and tense, but I think would end in an early Japanese collapse. Maybe a Scen 2/30 game would be viable with the Russians active.



I think an active USSR would perhaps be too much at any time, but as a counter you should look at the LCU withdrawal queue for the USSR in 1942. Many, many units go away for historically understandable reasons. In 1942 that portion of the map is actually pretty much a big balloon. Not saying Japan could walk in, but it might be possible if India/Oz adventures were curtailed. And it would certainly change the end game if those forces and bases were not available to the Allies.


Look at the rader-Jzanes game where rader attacks Russia in 42. He didn't even take China before!

He does go quite far into Russia, but doesn't get it all, and eventually the Russians push back. The critical point is when B-29s start appearing in Russia. Several games since have had HRs about other Allied forces not being able to use Russian bases.

Even in 42, although the numbers aren't what they will be, the firepower of a Russian division is pretty decent, and they have enough supply to do some things, unlike in China.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 9/29/2014 4:01:05 PM   
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Excellent AAR, and good point about Russia.

I think Russia is veeery difficult to take as:

1.- Their units begin with good morale, so no massive surrender ala dutch/CW/Phi
2.- LOT of art units, with a good number of 240/122/76 barrels. Enough to win almost every artillery duel.
3.- Lot of its units are armored, so more difficult to destroy, and, with roads and rr, make an excellent reserve.
4.- Short lines, plenty of supplies, overall good commanders.
5.- Japanese Air Support, although available, is not strong enough to unbalance the front.

My two cents .

BTW: Ny59, how will u use those BCs? raiders? scouting? fast CV escort ?

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 9/29/2014 5:10:36 PM   
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Regarding China:

Japanese and Chinese garrison requirements should be increased A LOT. Not just a little but enough that it will severely reduce the amount of troops available for front line duty for both sides. Make destroyed Chinese LCUs respawn with full supply (if possible) and some guns. Not just squads. Increase Chinese "respawning" EXP/MRL to 40/60 instead of the current 30/30. Allow for Chinese units to dig forts despite being out of supply (if possible).

Or decrease supply in Japanese controlled China so its just about self sufficient without any combat. That way rolling over the Chinese would come at a steep supply cost making another venture like India/OZ impossible. Place HUGE garrison requirements on "opposing" bases. So massive Japanese garrison requirements on Chinese cities and vice versa.

Activating USSR would put a tremendous strain on the Japanese. It would force them to try and knock the SU out at once or suffer the consequences in 43-45. It would unbalance the whole game IMO.


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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 12:11:28 PM   
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Date: 42 Jan 6th -
DBs find a couple of transports without CAP.

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:
Kavieng invasion is stopped by DBs.

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - MIA
KB3 - Babeldoab
KB4 - 8 East of CRB
CVEs - MIA

Allied Mini-Death Star - Still at Soerabaja.

Subs:

India/Burma:
Rangoon -
Pegu -

China:
Trail to Ankang - 3 hexes to SE sees the bombers softening up the troops - 16 Nates with 9 Ann & 6 Sonia. Ground bb is 1286:501.

Malaya: -
Singapore - 11 Lily bomb at night. The bombers now appear during the day total 74 Sally, but he has them set at 24k so very minor damage is done.

Philippines:
Manila - 33 Nates are the escorts for 8 sally & 18 Lily before 31 Oscars sweep.
Clark -
quote:

Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14562 troops, 137 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 487

Defending force 2733 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 39

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 101

Allied adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Clark Field !!!


Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1272 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 50 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
48th Division
7th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
21st PA Infantry Division


Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -

New Guinea/Solomons:
Kavieng - My brave DBs fly in from Australia to Rabaul and find NO CAP over transports. Cribtop states weather kept them on his CVEs. Of course, I fly them back next turn. Just a 'hit & run' attack.
quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kavieng at 106,122

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2U-3 Vindicator x 14

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Ayo Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Miyati Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
496 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Ayo Maru


Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:
Umnak -

Australia:

Engineers:
Canton Island - F3; Townsville AF4; Hobart AF4

Intel:

Notes/Plans:

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 12:36:41 PM   
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Date: 42 Jan 7th -
Almost all Japanese carriers are spotted today!!

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:
Wewak

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - 116, 117 (14 NE Rabaul)
KB3 - last seen at Babeldoab
KB4 - 80, 90 (2 NW Laoag)
CVEs - 108, 113 (12 No Rabaul)

Allied Mini-Death Star - Still at Soerabaja.

Subs:

India/Burma:
Rangoon -
Pegu - empty base falls
quote:

Ground combat at Pegu (55,53)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8525 troops, 105 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 285

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 218

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 218 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pegu !!!


Combat modifiers
Attacker:

Assaulting units:
4th RTA Division
14th Tank Regiment
55th Engineer Regiment
2nd RTA/A Division
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion


China:
Trail to Ankang - 3 hexes to SE sees the bombers softening up the troops - 12 Nates with 9 Ann & 6 Sonia are joined by 41 Sally.
quote:

Ground combat at 83,45 (near Nanyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42581 troops, 466 guns, 503 vehicles, Assault Value = 1317

Defending force 32241 troops, 223 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 497

Japanese adjusted assault: 827

Allied adjusted defense: 730

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1


Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
363 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 46 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 109 (16 destroyed, 93 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1148 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 77 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Assaulting units:
5th Tank Regiment
10th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
6th Division
9th Tank Regiment
3rd Division
13th Tank Regiment
13th Division
3rd Tank Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
11th Tank Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
9th Armored Car Co
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Army
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion

Defending units:
30th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps

In a role reversal, it seems his tanks are going to take the losses so the infantry can push through. I'm trying to retreat, but doubt I have enough time.


Pingsiang - an LCU is just SE of base, so my bombers from Changsha attack - 3 A-29s, 3 DB-3M, 9 SB-III = 20 c

Malaya: -
Singapore - 13 Lily bomb at night and hit nothing. The bombers now appear during the day total 73 Sally.

Philippines:
Manila - 24 Oscars ensure the skies are empty before 34 Nates with 19 Lily & 10 Sally hit AF.
Bataan - My PT boats are attacked by 14 Zeros with 9 Kates from KB4 transitioning past northern coast without success.

Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -

New Guinea/Solomons:

Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:
Umnak - Remember a recent thread on how to get more SC TFs to find targets, I had set my 2 CL and 6 DD TF at this base to Patrol Zone for 6 days and reaction of 6 hexes. During the night, they react to a lone PB 6 hexes to SW, sink her, and are back by daylight to protect the Amphib TF unloading the 87th Mtn Rgt and an AEB.

Australia:

Engineers:

Intel:

Notes/Plans:
Trail to Ankang - I'm going to loss all these Corps trying to delay Cribtop. I just hope it is not in vain.

Rabaul - Lots of CV power moving into area. Will it lead to a rapid conquest of bases in this area??

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 1:04:31 PM   
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Date: 42 Jan 8th -
Para land on Timor

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - 112, 124 (6 East Rabaul)
KB3 - last seen at Babeldoab
KB4 - 87, 72 (10 NE Manila)
CVEs - MIA

Allied Mini-Death Star - Still at Soerabaja.

Subs:

India/Burma:
Rangoon -
Toungoo -

China:
Trail to Ankang - 3 hexes to SE sees the bombers softening up the troops - 12 Nates with 9 Ann & 6 Sonia are joined by 41 Sally. Still holding...502:709. Japanese casualties are twice Chinese.

Malaya: -
Singapore - 9 Lily bomb at night and hit nothing. 39 Oscars with 75 Sally barely hit the AF from 24k.

Philippines:
Manila - 9 Nates with 18 Lily & 10 Sally hit AF from 15k.
Bataan -

Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -
Lautem - elements of 1st Para take base.

New Guinea/Solomons:
Wewak - empty base falls to elements of Nav Gds.

Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:
Umnak -

Australia:

Engineers:
San Fran F4; Kodiak F3; Midway F3; Brisbane AF6; Victoria F3; Hyderabad F3;

Intel:
Not been very helpful so far.

Notes/Plans:
Rabaul - Is he waiting for transports??

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 1:26:26 PM   
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Date: 42 Jan 9th -
ALL enemy CV/CVL/CVEs spotted between Truk and Rabaul

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - 116, 122 (11 East Rabaul)
KB3 - 109, 113 (5 SW Truk)
KB4 - 91, 81 (10 East Legaspi)
CVEs - 104,113 (10 SW Truk)

Allied Mini-Death Star - Still at Soerabaja.
Saratoga & Yorktown with CVL King's Mtn - At Pearl, will leave in next day or turn after minor system damage repaired.

Subs:
I-6 is 2 SW of San Fran as transports from Oz/NZ start arriving. Thankfully, I've been sending out the newly converted APDs to merge with TF to provide ASW protection. This I-boat misses the transports.

India/Burma:
Rangoon -
Toungoo -

China:
Trail to Ankang - 3 hexes to SE sees the bombers softening up the troops - Only 35 Sally bomb troops. Just a ground bb attack today 1154:316.
4 SE of Ankang or 2 WSW of Nanchang - 12 Chinese bombers attack 26th ID = 55c

Malaya: -
Singapore - 39 Oscars with 73 Sally hit the AF from 24k = 1b, 12r

Philippines:
Manila - 32 Nates with 11 Lily & 3 Sally hit AF from 15k.
Bataan -

Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -

New Guinea/Solomons:

Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:
Umnak - unloading almost complete

Australia:

Engineers:
Los Angeles P9

Intel:

Notes/Plans:
Japanese carriers - all the strength is NOW near Rabaul. He has a Glen equipped I-boat keeping an eye on my DS repairing at Soerabaja. Why the attention here vs securing the vital oil in the SRA?

Fast AOs - 4 of 5 (other at Panama loading) fast, big AOs are now 7 south Hilo. they will ensure Sara & York TF can get to Australia.





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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 1:46:48 PM   
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Date: 42 Jan 10th -
My six overworked Cats at Rabaul lose track of some TFs.

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - 110, 120 (6 NE Rabaul)
KB3 - MIA
KB4 - MIA
CVEs - MIA

Allied Mini-Death Star - Still at Soerabaja.
Saratoga & Yorktown with CVL King's Mtn - At Pearl, will leave tomorrow after minor system damage repaired.

Subs:

India/Burma:
Rangoon - 23 Sonia attack lone battalion
Toungoo -

China:
Trail to Ankang - 3 hexes to SE find a quiet day in the skies. Still holding!!
quote:

Ground combat at 83,45 (near Nanyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30296 troops, 364 guns, 345 vehicles, Assault Value = 1189

Defending force 26728 troops, 179 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 323

Japanese adjusted assault: 560

Allied adjusted defense: 490

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 91 (7 destroyed, 84 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
596 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 129 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)


Malaya: -
Singapore - 30 Oscars and NO bombers

Philippines:
Manila - 35 Nates with 16 Lily & 9 Sally hit AF from 15k. No damage due to "Severe Storms."
Bataan -
Subic Bay - quickly lost
quote:

Ground combat at Subic Bay (78,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 384 troops, 0 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 79

Defending force 420 troops, 28 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 35

Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Subic Bay !!!


Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
393 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 34 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 30 (30 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
7th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
Subic Bay Defenses


Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -

New Guinea/Solomons:

Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:
Umnak - unloading almost complete

Australia:

Engineers:
Bataan F3

Intel:

Notes/Plans:
Luzon - Down to just Bataan (78 AV) and Manila (1521 AV).

China - The numerous arrows from LCUs shows a steady stream of troops headed for Ankang.





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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 2:57:07 PM   
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Re: KB massing in the Solomons - do you suppose he might think those DBs that hit the Kavieng invasion ships were from one of your CVs?
Shouldn't happen because they are Vindicators, but he might think you loaded them on a CV to supplement their strike (if Vindicators are even CV capable).

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 3:50:48 PM   
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No, I think Cribtop is being over cautious for some reason. He knows Mini-Death Star is still in Java. Either that or he has big plans in Solomons and further south. I now have PBYs at Luganville with 2 AVP, another in Ellice Islands, and then over to east at Canton Island. That will give me some warning, but I'll have a gap in Coral Sea area. I'll have to move a PBY group to Rockhampton to cover it soon.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 4:55:09 PM   
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What do you have behind your roadblock to Ankang? Any chance at all to stop him? If he can push up that road your position will turn ugly.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 5:25:59 PM   
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China is going to be ugly Jocke. I'm sending troops from almost everywhere to 'try' to get to Ankang before the Japanese. See most recent screen shot to see all those small arrows headed in that direction. I have a feeling I'll have to abandon everything in eastern China very soon. Right now, just about every hex has somebody headed to Sian and then Ankang. His tank regiments broke the Chinese to allow his infantry to pursue.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 5:29:33 PM   
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Yeah, Tom did the same thing against me. Not much you can do.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/4/2014 8:52:05 PM   
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Interesting idea to have % chance of releasing Russia early depending on reduction. IIRC the old Pacific War game increased the garrison requirement over time.

I agree there is too much VP booty in China that is too easy to get, but I am not sure it will be designed out. In our current mod, we tackled it by increasing allied VP's for pacific bases.
Works for us because the empire can still get those VP's but they are located elsewhere.



IRL Japan was too worried about the Russians coming in if they weakened their defenses to the degree a Japanese player does in AE. I almost feel the need for Russia to be activate at start to prevent China from being overrun in early '42.
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/11/2014 5:47:10 PM   
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Date: 42 Jan 11th -
All of KB off Rabaul.

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:
Manus

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - 109, 125 (3 East Rabaul)
KB3 - with KB1 & 2
KB4 - MIA
CVEs - MIA

Allied Mini-Death Star - Still at Soerabaja, but ordered to Mataram (6 SE of Soerabaja). Pilots will train and do more training unless spotted.
Saratoga & Yorktown with CVL King's Mtn - Leaving Pearl with their pilots training too.

Subs:

India/Burma:
Rangoon - 23 Sonia attack lone battalion
Toungoo - Ground bb 149:270 - 1st Burma ID is here.

China:
Trail to Ankang - 3 hexes to SE sees just 34 Sally coming in at 10k. Ground bb 1152:127

Malaya: -
Singapore - 39 Oscars with 73 Sally at 24k cannot find the AF through the 'heavy rain'
Temuloh - 1 NE of base finds my lone ISF BF subject to attack by 24 Sally & 15 Lily. IMO, just leave it alone and go after Singapore.

Philippines:
Manila - 35 Nates with 24 Lily & 12 Sally hit AF.
Bataan -

Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -

New Guinea/Solomons:
Rabaul - 104 Zeros with 118 Kates get just 17 casualties.

Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:

Australia:

Engineers:
Christmas Island - AF1; Chungking AF6

Intel:

Notes/Plans:
Rabaul - Almost all his carrier strength is here while he he does nothing in SRA. Strange!?!


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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/11/2014 5:57:24 PM   
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Date: 42 Jan 12th -
All of KB off Rabaul. Transports now there.

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - 107, 130 (5 So. Rabaul)
KB3 - with KB1 & 2
KB4 - MIA
CVEs - MIA

Allied Mini-Death Star - At Mataram (6 SE of Soerabaja). Pilots training.
Saratoga & Yorktown with CVL King's Mtn - Left Pearl.

Subs:
Didgeridoo is one of two new Aussie subs. She misses the BBs with transports at Rabaul.

India/Burma:
Rangoon - 23 Sonia attack lone battalion
Toungoo - Ground bb 149:270 - 1st Burma ID is here.

China:
Trail to Ankang - 3 hexes to SE sees just 30 Sally coming in at 10k.

Malaya: -
Singapore - 75 Sally at 19k can get a few hits on AF.
Temuloh - 1 NE of base finds my lone ISF BF left alone.

Philippines:
Manila - 35 Nates with 26 Lily & 12 Sally hit AF.
Bataan -

Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -

New Guinea/Solomons:
Rabaul - BB Ise & Hyuga present with transports along with his CVEs. I think troops will start to land tomorrow. 128 Zeros with 118 Kates get just 33 casualties.
Manus - SNLF company takes empty base.

Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:

Australia:

Engineers:
Wellington AF5

Intel:

Notes/Plans:
Yawn!!

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/11/2014 6:13:23 PM   
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Date: 42 Jan 13th -
Landings at Rabaul. An nearly empty Rangoon falls.

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:
Shortland & Aitape; Rabaul by 1st China Assault Division

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - 105, 131 (6 So. Rabaul)
KB3 - with KB1 & 2
KB4 - MIA
CVEs - MIA

Allied Mini-Death Star - At Mataram (6 SE of Soerabaja). Pilots training.
Saratoga & Yorktown with CVL King's Mtn - 2 days south of Pearl.

Subs:
Didgeridoo is hit once while trying to get a hit on something off Rabaul.
S-18 is at Baker and attacked by PB. I divert my CVs coming down from Pearl more SE to take a closer look.

India/Burma:
Toungoo -
Rangoon - 17 Sonia attack lone battalion.
quote:

Ground combat at Rangoon (54,53)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12490 troops, 131 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 419

Defending force 870 troops, 7 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 205

Allied adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 41 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Rangoon !!!


Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
153 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
448 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
4th RTA Division
14th Tank Regiment
55th Engineer Regiment
143rd Infantry Regiment
2nd RTA/A Division
15th Army
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
1st Gloucestershire Battalion


China:
Trail to Ankang - 2 hexes to SE as my troops were able to pull back.

Malaya: -
Singapore - 73 Sally hit AF.
Temuloh - 1 NE of base finds my lone ISF BF subject to attack by 25 Sally & 11 Lily.

Philippines:
Manila - 35 Nates with 28 Lily & 13 Sally hit AF.
Bataan - no enemy troops coming here yet.

Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -
Kolaka - empty base behind Kendari is taken by para

New Guinea/Solomons:
Rabaul - 28 Zeros with 10 Kates & 11 Vals from CVEs hit troops.

Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:

Australia:

Engineers:
Hilo F3; Chittagong F3

Intel:

Notes/Plans:
Rabaul - How long will the brave defenders hold??

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/11/2014 6:55:44 PM   
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Date: 42 Jan 14th -
Rabaul holds.

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:
Rabual (landings continue for second day)

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - 109, 125 (3 east Rabaul)
KB3 - 110, 124 (4 east Rabaul)
KB4 - MIA
CVEs - with KB1 & 2

Allied Mini-Death Star - At Mataram (6 SE of Soerabaja). Pilots training.
Saratoga & Yorktown with CVL King's Mtn - 3 days south of Pearl.

Subs:

India/Burma:
Toungoo -

China:
Trail to Ankang - 2 hexes to SE as my troops were able to pull back.

Malaya: -
Singapore - 62 Sally hit AF.
Temuloh - 1 NE of base finds my lone ISF BF subject to attack by 25 Sally & 11 Lily again.

Philippines:
Manila - 34 Nates with 28 Lily & 12 Sally hit AF.
Bataan -

Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -

New Guinea/Solomons:
Rabaul - Multiple attacks hit troops - 67 Zero with 11 Val & 31 Kates; 67 Zero with 63 Kates; 35 Zero with 35 Kates.
quote:

Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5842 troops, 96 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 189

Defending force 3077 troops, 21 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Japanese adjusted assault: 57

Allied adjusted defense: 53

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1


Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
157 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
239 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st China Assault Division

Defending units:
B Coy/NG Rifles
Lark Force
Rabaul Base Force

No CD guns at Rabaul with new OOB changes.


Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:

Australia:

Engineers:
Wendover AF5; Anchorage F3; Geraldton f3; Townsville AF5;

Intel:

Notes/Plans:
Burma - I'm steadily heading north to defend at the India & Burma border area.




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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/11/2014 6:58:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: topeverest

Interesting idea to have % chance of releasing Russia early depending on reduction. IIRC the old Pacific War game increased the garrison requirement over time.

I agree there is too much VP booty in China that is too easy to get, but I am not sure it will be designed out. In our current mod, we tackled it by increasing allied VP's for pacific bases.
Works for us because the empire can still get those VP's but they are located elsewhere.



IRL Japan was too worried about the Russians coming in if they weakened their defenses to the degree a Japanese player does in AE. I almost feel the need for Russia to be activate at start to prevent China from being overrun in early '42.




If this is a concern for the players, why not just increase the Manchukuo garrison level to say - 9000 or 9500? It seems strange that in an alternate-reality game there is a desire to place restrictions on which theaters the players can or should be fighting over.


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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/11/2014 7:18:01 PM   
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Date: 42 Jan 15th -
Rabaul holds for second day.

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:
Kavieng & Ulak (Aleutians)

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - 109, 125 (3 east Rabaul)
KB3 - 108, 121 (4 NE Rabaul)
KB4 - MIA
CVEs - MIA

Allied Mini-Death Star - At Mataram (6 SE of Soerabaja) & still undetected. Pilots training.
Saratoga & Yorktown with CVL King's Mtn - 4 hexes west of Christmas.

Subs:
I-5 is at 206, 74 (14 WSW of San Fran) - misses my CS Convoy headed for Pearl.
I-157 (4 So Balikpapan) - sinks damaged AM

India/Burma:
Toungoo -

China:
Trail to Ankang - 2 hexes to SE is quiet.

Malaya: -
Singapore - 30 Oscars escort in 59 Sally hit AF.
Temuloh - 1 NE of base finds my lone ISF BF subject to attack by 15 Sally & 15 Lily again. 1st Tank Rgt wipes them out!!

Philippines:
Manila - 34 Nates with 27 Lily & 12 Sally hit AF.
Bataan -

Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -
Dili - taken by elements of 1st Para/C

New Guinea/Solomons:
Rabaul - Multiple attacks hit troops - 75 Zero with 83 Kates followed by 70 Zero with 35 Kates.
quote:

Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5639 troops, 96 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 167

Defending force 2797 troops, 20 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 35

Japanese adjusted assault: 27

Allied adjusted defense: 29

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)


Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
1st China Assault Division

Defending units:
Lark Force
B Coy/NG Rifles
Rabaul Base Force

The Japanese AD (Assault Division) are not that strong.


Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:
Ulak - taken by a BF

Australia:

Engineers:
Seattle P8; Umnak F2 (going to F4 before I work on AF); Christmas AF2 (switching back to get forts up another level); Penrhyn P2 (good timing as TKs have arrived, will use this base vs Christmas as refueling base); Prince Rupert P5 (North Pacific hub)

Intel:

Notes/Plans:
SRA - its weird to see little activity in this area at this time in the game. DS and subs waiting to go into action unless ALL of KB heads this way.

Malaya - empty bases changing hands as Cribtop heads south. At Singapore, I have 937 AV, 47k in supply, and forts at 3 (47% and increasing).





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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/11/2014 7:28:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: durnedwolf


quote:

ORIGINAL: topeverest

Interesting idea to have % chance of releasing Russia early depending on reduction. IIRC the old Pacific War game increased the garrison requirement over time.

I agree there is too much VP booty in China that is too easy to get, but I am not sure it will be designed out. In our current mod, we tackled it by increasing allied VP's for pacific bases.
Works for us because the empire can still get those VP's but they are located elsewhere.



IRL Japan was too worried about the Russians coming in if they weakened their defenses to the degree a Japanese player does in AE. I almost feel the need for Russia to be activate at start to prevent China from being overrun in early '42.



If this is a concern for the players, why not just increase the Manchukuo garrison level to say - 9000 or 9500? It seems strange that in an alternate-reality game there is a desire to place restrictions on which theaters the players can or should be fighting over.




The issue is that the IJA player can buy out all the planes, heavy artillery and tanks in Manchukuo and the Chinese have no answer to these weapons.
The artillery has no AV and the tanks can be replaced by relatively small infantry units to keep the AV count stable in Manchukuo.
Since the anti-armour and artillery counterbattery (and flak) values are too low in the Chinese units to make the contest realistic, I think just boosting the Chinese units enough to slow down the steamroller is one way to prevent the early conquest of China.


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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 10/11/2014 9:56:19 PM   
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Hard to tell from your map, but it looks like Singers will stay yours for a good long time. What is the morale/experience of the troops? Did you replace the leadership?

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 11/2/2014 11:25:41 AM   
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Date: 42 Jan 16 & 17
Catching up on my long neglected AAR.

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:
Vanimo

CVs:
KB1 & 2 - NE Rabaul
KB3 - NE Rabaul
KB4 - MIA
CVEs - NW Rabaul

Allied Mini-Death Star - At Mataram (6 SE of Soerabaja) & still undetected. Pilots training.
Saratoga & Yorktown with CVL King's Mtn - between Christmas and Pago Pago

Subs:

India/Burma:
Toungoo -
Prome - empty base falls to 14th Tank

China:
Trail to Ankang - 2 hexes to SE. Oscars sweep before 36 Lily/Sally bomb troops. Failed attack on 17th.

Malaya: -
Singapore - Oscars with 80 Sally

Philippines:
Manila - Nates escort in 37 Lily/Sally
Bataan -

Borneo:

Sumatra:
Medan -

SRA:
Kendari -

New Guinea/Solomons:
Rabaul - 20 bombers from CVEs, 40 Bettys from Truk, 118 Kates from KB 1, 2, 3 hit troops.
quote:

Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5673 troops, 96 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 171

Defending force 2591 troops, 19 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Japanese adjusted assault: 134

Allied adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Rabaul !!!


Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
245 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 100 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 141 (141 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st China Assault Division

Defending units:
Lark Force
Rabaul Base Force


Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:

Australia:

Engineers:
Kalgoorlie F3; Waipapakauri AF2; Cristobal P5; Palembang F2;

Intel:

Notes/Plans:

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