Mundy
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This does hit home the fact that CVEs have no business facing enemy carriers of any sort. I guess you read all sorts of advice on this forum, but nothing drives things home like seeing it for yourself. I had hoped to ship my carriers east without any encounters, but if I had known what would transpire, I would have kicked off my Gilberts invasion. I may do it now anyway, as he's fully occupied and they'll need to recover. 22 May 1943 Another big-ish naval encounter. I got the jump on him this time. Nevada sinks of her own accord after this battle. None of the hits here scratched her and she did feed Ashigara at least one 14" shell. She's probably finished. quote:
night Time Surface Combat, near Gisborne at 121,186, Range 8,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Myoko, Shell hits 1 CA Nachi, Shell hits 2 CA Ashigara, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Onami DD Minegumo DD Kasumi DD Nenohi, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships BB Nevada, Shell hits 4 CA Wichita CL Cleveland DD Chevalier DD Benham DD Case DD Conyngham DD Shaw DD Cushing DD Perkins DD Tucker APD Stringham APD Kilty Improved night sighting under 92% moonlight Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 92% moonlight: 8,000 yards Range closes to 23,000 yards... Range closes to 17,000 yards... Range closes to 11,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 11,000 yards Range closes to 8,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 8,000 yards BB Nevada fires at CA Nachi at 8,000 yards CL Cleveland fires at CA Ashigara at 8,000 yards BB Nevada fires at DD Nenohi at 8,000 yards DD Perkins launches Torpedoes at DD Nenohi at 8,000 yards DD Cushing launches Torpedoes at DD Nenohi at 8,000 yards DD Shaw launches Torpedoes at DD Nenohi at 8,000 yards DD Conyngham launches Torpedoes at DD Nenohi at 8,000 yards DD Case launches Torpedoes at DD Nenohi at 8,000 yards DD Benham launches Torpedoes at DD Nenohi at 8,000 yards DD Chevalier launches Torpedoes at DD Nenohi at 8,000 yards APD Stringham fires at CA Ashigara at 8,000 yards Range closes to 5,000 yards BB Nevada engages CA Ashigara at 5,000 yards CA Nachi engages BB Nevada at 5,000 yards BB Nevada engages CA Myoko at 5,000 yards DD Nenohi engages DD Cushing at 5,000 yards DD Chevalier engages DD Kasumi at 5,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Perkins at 5,000 yards DD Shaw engages DD Nenohi at 5,000 yards DD Nenohi engages DD Conyngham at 5,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Case at 5,000 yards DD Benham engages DD Nenohi at 5,000 yards CA Ashigara engages APD Kilty at 5,000 yards CA Ashigara engages APD Stringham at 5,000 yards CA Ashigara engages BB Nevada at 5,000 yards CA Nachi engages BB Nevada at 5,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Cleveland at 5,000 yards DD Tucker engages DD Nenohi at 5,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Perkins at 5,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Chevalier at 5,000 yards DD Onami engages DD Shaw at 5,000 yards DD Nenohi engages DD Conyngham at 5,000 yards DD Chevalier engages DD Nenohi at 5,000 yards CA Ashigara engages APD Kilty at 5,000 yards Range increases to 7,000 yards CA Ashigara engages CL Cleveland at 7,000 yards CA Nachi engages CA Wichita at 7,000 yards BB Nevada engages CA Myoko at 7,000 yards DD Nenohi engages DD Chevalier at 7,000 yards DD Nenohi engages DD Perkins at 7,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Shaw at 7,000 yards DD Onami engages DD Case at 7,000 yards DD Conyngham engages DD Minegumo at 7,000 yards DD Nenohi engages DD Case at 7,000 yards DD Nenohi engages DD Benham at 7,000 yards CA Ashigara engages APD Stringham at 7,000 yards Range increases to 9,000 yards CA Ashigara engages BB Nevada at 9,000 yards CA Nachi engages BB Nevada at 9,000 yards CL Cleveland engages CA Ashigara at 9,000 yards DD Tucker engages DD Nenohi at 9,000 yards DD Perkins engages DD Minegumo at 9,000 yards DD Shaw engages DD Minegumo at 9,000 yards DD Nenohi engages DD Shaw at 9,000 yards DD Nenohi engages DD Benham at 9,000 yards DD Chevalier engages DD Nenohi at 9,000 yards Range increases to 11,000 yards BB Nevada engages CA Ashigara at 11,000 yards CA Wichita engages CA Ashigara at 11,000 yards CL Cleveland engages CA Myoko at 11,000 yards DD Nenohi engages DD Chevalier at 11,000 yards DD Perkins engages DD Nenohi at 11,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Cushing at 11,000 yards DD Onami engages DD Chevalier at 11,000 yards DD Conyngham engages DD Nenohi at 11,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Benham at 11,000 yards CA Ashigara engages APD Kilty at 11,000 yards CA Ashigara engages APD Stringham at 11,000 yards Task forces break off... Sara gets caught and finished. Lex goes down on her own after this. quote:
Night Time Surface Combat, near Gisborne at 117,189, Range 8,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Tone CA Chokai DD Akigumo DD Tamanami DD Amatsukaze, Shell hits 1 DD Tanikaze, Shell hits 1 DD Shiratsuyu DD Shigure Allied Ships CV Saratoga, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CLAA Atlanta, Shell hits 4, heavy fires DD Mahan Improved night sighting under 92% moonlight Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 92% moonlight: 8,000 yards Range closes to 27,000 yards... Range closes to 25,000 yards... Range closes to 23,000 yards... Range closes to 21,000 yards... Range closes to 19,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 19,000 yards Range closes to 17,000 yards... Range closes to 15,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 15,000 yards Range closes to 13,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 13,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards... Range closes to 10,000 yards... Range closes to 9,000 yards... Range closes to 8,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards CA Chokai engages CLAA Atlanta at 8,000 yards DD Shigure engages CV Saratoga at 8,000 yards DD Amatsukaze engages CV Saratoga at 8,000 yards DD Tamanami engages CV Saratoga at 8,000 yards CV Saratoga sunk by DD Akigumo at 8,000 yards Range increases to 9,000 yards CA Tone engages CLAA Atlanta at 9,000 yards CA Tone engages CLAA Atlanta at 9,000 yards CLAA Atlanta engages DD Tanikaze at 9,000 yards Range closes to 8,000 yards CA Chokai engages CLAA Atlanta at 8,000 yards DD Shigure engages DD Mahan at 8,000 yards DD Tanikaze engages DD Mahan at 8,000 yards DD Amatsukaze engages DD Mahan at 8,000 yards CLAA Atlanta engages CA Chokai at 8,000 yards CA Tone engages DD Mahan at 8,000 yards DD Tamanami engages DD Mahan at 8,000 yards Range closes to 7,000 yards CA Chokai engages CLAA Atlanta at 7,000 yards DD Shiratsuyu engages DD Mahan at 7,000 yards Allied Task Force Manages to Escape Task forces break off... --------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Gisborne at 117,189, Range 19,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Suzuya CA Kumano CL Agano DD Yamagumo DD Sazanami DD Mutsuki DD Minazuki DD Nagatsuki DD Mikazuki CL Teshio DD Takakaze Allied Ships AMc Moa, Shell hits 7, and is sunk AMc Sanda, Shell hits 4, and is sunk AMc Scarba, Shell hits 1, and is sunk Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards Range closes to 19,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 19,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 19,000 yards Kamiyama, T. crosses the 'T' CL Teshio collides with DD Mikazuki at 117 , 189 AMc Scarba sunk by CA Kumano at 19,000 yards Range closes to 17,000 yards DD Mikazuki engages AMc Sanda at 17,000 yards DD Minazuki engages AMc Sanda at 17,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages AMc Sanda at 17,000 yards Range closes to 14,000 yards AMc Sanda sunk by CA Kumano at 14,000 yards CA Kumano engages AMc Moa at 14,000 yards DD Minazuki engages AMc Moa at 14,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards CA Kumano engages AMc Moa at 11,000 yards CL Agano engages AMc Moa at 11,000 yards DD Mikazuki engages AMc Moa at 11,000 yards AMc Moa sunk by DD Nagatsuki at 11,000 yards Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk... At this point, KB is dishing out diminishing returns. I'm punishing his strikes better now. quote:
Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 118,189 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 36 B5N2 Kate x 15 D4Y1 Judy x 10 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 41 F6F-3 Hellcat x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 8 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged D4Y1 Judy: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CLAA Atlanta, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 3 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 5 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet CAP engaged: VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead VF-37 with F6F-3 Hellcat (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 12 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead VRF-1F with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 10 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes VRF-2F with F4F-4 Wildcat (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (15 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 15 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead VRF-3F with F4F-4 Wildcat (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 10 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead VRF-5F with F4F-4 Wildcat (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CLAA Atlanta --------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 118,189 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 20 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 33 B5N2 Kate x 7 B6N2 Jill x 6 D4Y1 Judy x 11 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk III x 12 P-40E Warhawk x 6 P-40K Warhawk x 1 F4F-4 Wildcat x 30 F6F-3 Hellcat x 7 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 7 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged B6N2 Jill: 4 destroyed D4Y1 Judy: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships DD Mahan Aircraft Attacking: 3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 3 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb CAP engaged: VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes VF-37 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead VRF-1F with F4F-4 Wildcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead VRF-2F with F4F-4 Wildcat (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 9 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead VRF-3F with F4F-4 Wildcat (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 5 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead VRF-5F with F4F-4 Wildcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead VMF-111 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes VF-35 with F4F-4 Wildcat (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 5 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead No.16 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 12 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers 318th FG/19th FS with P-40E Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes 18th FG/44th FS with P-40K Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000. Raid is overhead My B-25s deliver the mail good on Tone quote:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Auckland at 121,183 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Allied aircraft Mitchell II x 9 Allied aircraft losses Mitchell II: 1 damaged Japanese Ships CA Tone, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Shiratsuyu, Bomb hits 1, on fire CA Chokai, Bomb hits 3 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Mitchell II bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb CF takes a bombardment shot at Gisborne. Lots of these planes were ready the next day, so it was mostly superficial damage to them. He has one TF sitting on the port, but they're asking for trouble if they stay there the next day. At this point, I'd say most of his ships have ammo shortages. The Tone TF met Atlanta and Mahan, but just withdrew. Hornet's fires are all out. Roughly speaking, she's at 75 sys, 45 flt and 35 eng. I doubt he'll be hanging around too much longer, so she'll have time to heal up a bit before making to a real port. I'm favoring Sydney at this point. I'm going to see what ships I have available at Pearl. I'll probably go ahead and take the Gilberts right now. As of right now, he's plenty far away and his air groups are rather depleted. Looking at the intel screen, he's lost almost 200 A6M5s and almost 200 Judys -- both of which I've never encountered before this battle. Some of them did go down in the surface battle, it appears. I still have 9-10 battleships to help cover this op. I've got 4 subs routed to cover the southern entrance to Truk. I could still get lucky. Two of these will be on station within 2-3 days.
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