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Oct 29: Magwe is closed - 11/14/2015 12:58:10 PM

Jorge_Stanbury

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No turn yet, just combat replay:
Magwe won't look pretty tonight

- Today (which is the 3rd round) there was minimal CAP, composed of Oscars and Ruffes

I wonder where did the good planes went
He probably decided Magwe is game over and withdrew them

- Damage to oil looks severe, several waves of bombing, at least 3 were massive (1st one is pictured in this post)
Oil hits: 398 + 73 + 29 + 10 + 13 + 13 + 4 + 13 + 8 + 20 + 9 + 2 + 9 + 12 + 15 + 9 = 636 hits

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 20000 feet *

CAP engaged:
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Kamikawa Maru-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
Kamikawa Maru-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 15

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 10

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 38
Hudson IIIa x 16
Liberator II x 3
Wellington Ic x 15
A-29 Hudson x 16
B-17D Fortress x 11
B-17E Fortress x 48
B-17F Fortress x 24
B-24D Liberator x 46
B-25C Mitchell x 34
B-26 Marauder x 3
B-26B Marauder x 15

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 9 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 4 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged

Oil hits 398

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim IV bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
11 x Blenheim IV bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x Wellington Ic bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
14 x Blenheim IV bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x Wellington Ic bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x A-29 Hudson bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x A-29 Hudson bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x A-29 Hudson bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x Liberator II bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 4

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter VIc: 2 damaged
Beaufighter VIc: 1 destroyed by flak

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Beaufighter VIc bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 10
B-17E Fortress x 32
B-24D Liberator x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 12
B-26 Marauder x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Oil hits 73

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Blenheim IV bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
Liberator II x 9
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 8

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Liberator II: 1 damaged
Liberator II: 1 destroyed by flak

Oil hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Blenheim IV bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x Liberator II bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 3
Hurricane IIc Trop x 3
P-38E Lightning x 3
P-38F Lightning x 14
P-40K Warhawk x 4

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 20000 feet
3 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 20000 feet *
3 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet
4 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 20000 feet
3 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 20000 feet
3 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 8
B-24D Liberator x 6

No Allied losses

Oil hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Blenheim IV bombing from 4000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 4

No Allied losses

Oil hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 4000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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< Message edited by Jorge_Stanbury -- 11/14/2015 2:28:29 PM >

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RE: Oct 29: Magwe is closed - 11/14/2015 1:10:58 PM

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Nah, he simply doesn't have the fighter reserves. Defending Magwe takes hundreds of fighters and he was caught unprepared. Either in squadrons there and in pool fighters, perhaps both.

Nicks can be ok in defense for the first wave, you just have to have other planes there protecting them and realize their climb isn't great.

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RE: Oct 29: Magwe is closed - 11/14/2015 1:21:33 PM

Jorge_Stanbury

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I think he was unprepared in squadron #s, his pools should be fine, his losses are relatively light

Today he mentioned: "3 days to completley level Magwe, through just about my entire airforce and most of my AA in the region!"

But a key point is that I have more than 1,000 bombers in Calcutta: all non restricted 4E, all British, most USA 2Es. Magwe was going to be closed, there is no doubt about it... it is the how quickly, how easily, how little losses what is probably bothering him. Thus I emailed him your previous post as there is good advice in there

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RE: Oct 29: Magwe is closed - 11/14/2015 1:31:08 PM

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Magwe at the end of the turn:
Oil 16(285)
Refinery 101(0)
Airbase 86 damage
Detection 9/13

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Nov 2: CAP trap at Coxs Bazaar - 11/18/2015 6:54:01 PM

Jorge_Stanbury

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The CAP trap I setup at Cox's Bazaar worked wonderful

As you can see from the picture, I sent a TF to Cox Bazaar. I am having trouble moving supply from Calcutta to the front, maybe a matter of the extensive number of divisions I have down there

Anyway, a couple turns ago, I decided to stop bombing Magwe, as it had become a bloody affair for very small benefits. As of now, oil is at 4(297) and it is no longer cost efficient to continue,
at this same time he decided to counter strike, with naval bombing, sweeps and airfield strikes at Chittagong.

So long story short, I decided to send a supply TF to Cox's Bazaar instead of the more ideal alternative of Chittagong.
I also put several Dacca fighters squadrons on on LRCAP above Cox's Bazaar. And I also reinforced Chittagong airbase: I took out all P-38s, and replaced with the more abundant Hurricanes, this, of course, to avoid naval bombardment losses.

Results were great: while his sweeps focused on Chittagong, two completely unescorted waves of IJN bombers (Nells and Vals) got wipped out on Cox Bazaar

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RE: Nov 2: CAP trap at Coxs Bazaar - 11/18/2015 6:57:49 PM

Jorge_Stanbury

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heavy losses

even for the sweeping Tojos

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 19

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 32
Hurricane IIc Trop x 78
Hurricane XIIb x 46

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.880 Sqn FAA with Hurricane XIIb (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
No.881 Sqn FAA with Hurricane XIIb (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
No.5 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
No.261 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
No.615 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 22

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIa Trop x 5
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5
P-38E Lightning x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 13 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP Amra
AMC Hector
xAP Kedah

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP engaged:
No.60 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIa Trop (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
51st FG/25th FS with P-38E Lightning (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 22

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIa Trop x 3
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2
P-38E Lightning x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 13 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP Amra, Bomb hits 1
xAK Jaladurga

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.60 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIa Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
51st FG/25th FS with P-38E Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 87 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 5

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 30
Hurricane IIc Trop x 67
Hurricane XIIb x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
No.880 Sqn FAA with Hurricane XIIb (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
No.881 Sqn FAA with Hurricane XIIb (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
No.5 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
No.261 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
No.615 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes

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< Message edited by Jorge_Stanbury -- 11/18/2015 8:03:59 PM >

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RE: Nov 2: CAP trap at Coxs Bazaar - 11/18/2015 6:59:14 PM

Jorge_Stanbury

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and one big watch out... the IJN is coming north

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Sub attack near Victoria Point at 49,66

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CL Kinu
DD Suzukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Hayate
DD Satsuki
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
SS Sargo

SS Sargo launches 4 torpedoes at CA Suzuya
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Satsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shirayuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Satsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Shirayuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Satsuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hayate fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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RE: Nov 2: CAP trap at Coxs Bazaar - 11/19/2015 2:32:35 AM

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Very nicely done over Cox and Magwe!!! Kinda jealous seeing the airpower you're able to put up! Seems you really maxed out the India theater with the heavies - not much left for Oz? Maybe I need to rethink my priorities.....

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RE: Nov 2: CAP trap at Coxs Bazaar - 11/19/2015 12:38:37 PM

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Wow! Great air combat results -- even creamed the Tojos! Great work! What would be the most likely mission for the IJN force -- bombardment?

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RE: Nov 2: CAP trap at Coxs Bazaar - 11/19/2015 2:32:34 PM

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He will bomb Chittagong, he already did a few turns ago, but it was not too damaging,

I will likely moved out the planes in a turn or two, I also moved out, permanently, the P-38s... it is one thing to lose Hurricanes or P-40s, another very different to lose P-38s/ 4E bombers

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RE: Nov 2: CAP trap at Coxs Bazaar - 11/19/2015 2:47:50 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IdahoNYer

Very nicely done over Cox and Magwe!!! Kinda jealous seeing the airpower you're able to put up! Seems you really maxed out the India theater with the heavies - not much left for Oz? Maybe I need to rethink my priorities.....

By now he also has figured out that I have all my air power in India. Or better to say:
- All non restricted 4E bombers. And I bought all available
- All P-38s, one P-40K squadron
- Most USAAF 2E bombers
- Almost all British squadrons, I think I have one in Australia
- 2 Canadian Fighter squadrons (50 Hurricanes)
- Other minor squadrons (Dutch, NZs)

so what is in the Pacific/ Oz?
- Navy and Marines squadrons
- All Australia, most NZ squadrons
- Significant number of USAAF fighters, but using relatively outdated P-40Es and P-39s
- Some USAAF 2E bombers.
Just enough to do some credible defense if his objectives are limited, certainly not enough to go offensive. Not yet

I guess a question he should also be asking himself is: what next? there has been no Japanese offensives in a long time, at least 6 months if not more. Is he happy on giving up initiative? in the meantime, I have recaptured: Ceylon, India, Bangladesh. Had he pushed hard in Australia or the Pacific, I would had been in a difficult spot, as the main forces were tied to India. It is now November, so I don't know if it is too late for Japan to keep going offensively.... AARs will say no...

I am still undecided if I should move out some of the forces out of India. With Magwe almost out of oil, I am happy with keeping the frontier at Burma, it is really difficult terrain, and I am actually having significant issues in keeping Cox's Bazaar supplied, which is very close and with a road to my Chittagong depot.. so just imagine the pains that it will be to keep pushing down in Burma.

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RE: Nov 2: CAP trap at Coxs Bazaar - 11/19/2015 4:20:30 PM

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Classic tar-baby in India - he wants to get out of the sticky situation but can't, and it inevitably draws in more and more of his forces to try to save the ones that are there.
You did a great job of anticipating where to resist. Bravo Zulu!

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Nov 3: Naval battles at Coxs Bazaar - 11/19/2015 6:25:24 PM

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I knew this was not going to end well for the bait force...
The IJN cruisers got the amphibious force before the British cruisers could do anything

To be continued...

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RE: Nov 3: Naval battles at Coxs Bazaar - 11/19/2015 6:33:36 PM

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quote:

not going to end well

It didn't start well, either.

Best case, maybe the IJN ships will be low on ammo when/if (??) they run into some serious Allied warships. But yeah, this fight looks ugly.

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Nov 3: Because the night belongs to Japan :( - 11/19/2015 6:36:25 PM

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Three night battles:
the 1st was a massacre, the Japanese TF reached Cox Bazaar and wipped out the bait TF before the SCTF could react
2nd battle: finally the British cruisers showed up... battle ended undecided
3rd battle: one IJN destroyer sunk, the rest left with minimal damage... November 42, the night still belongs to Japan

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
CL Kuma
DD Isonami
DD Shikinami
DD Sagiri
DD Asakaze

Allied Ships
DE Talbot, Shell hits 15, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Amra, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Jaladurga
xAP Klang, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Perak, Shell hits 9, on fire
xAP Ipoh, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
AMC Hector, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Kedah, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Poelau Telo, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Talisse, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Indianan
xAK Oregonian, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Texan, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Paul Luckenbach

Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 25% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 25% moonlight: 10,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
Japanese launch Long Lance torpedoes at 9,000 yards before allies detect Japanese presence
CL Isuzu launches Long Lance Torpedoes at DE Talbot at 9,000 yards
AMC Hector sunk by CL Isuzu at 9,000 yards
CL Isuzu launches Long Lance Torpedoes at xAP Talisse at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DE Talbot engages CL Kuma at 5,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages DE Talbot at 5,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages DE Talbot at 5,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DE Talbot at 5,000 yards
xAP Ipoh sunk by CL Kuma at 5,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DE Talbot at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
xAP Talisse sunk by CL Kuma at 2,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages DE Talbot at 2,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages DE Talbot at 2,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages xAP Kedah at 2,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages xAP Perak at 2,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DE Talbot at 2,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DE Talbot at 2,000 yards
DD Isonami engages xAK Texan at 2,000 yards
DE Talbot engages CL Kuma at 2,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages xAP Poelau Telo at 2,000 yards
DE Talbot engages CL Jintsu at 2,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DE Talbot at 2,000 yards
DE Talbot engages DD Sagiri at 2,000 yards
xAK Oregonian sunk by DD Isonami at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages DE Talbot at 3,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages xAP Poelau Telo at 3,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAK Texan at 3,000 yards
DE Talbot engages DD Asakaze at 3,000 yards
xAP Klang sunk by DD Isonami at 3,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages xAP Amra at 3,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages xAK Texan at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
CL Kuma engages xAP Amra at 4,000 yards
xAP Poelau Telo sunk by DD Shikinami at 4,000 yards
DD Isonami engages xAP Kedah at 4,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages xAP Amra at 4,000 yards
DD Isonami engages xAP Amra at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CL Kuma engages DE Talbot at 2,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages xAP Kedah at 2,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages xAP Perak at 2,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 3
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 4
CL Kuma, Shell hits 1
DD Isonami
DD Shikinami
DD Sagiri, Shell hits 1
DD Asakaze, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CA Hawkins, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Birmingham
DD Decoy
DD Encounter
DD Hotspur, Shell hits 2
DD Isis, Shell hits 1

Reduced sighting due to 25% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 25% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Somerville, James F crosses the 'T'
CL Jintsu engages CA Hawkins at 11,000 yards
CA Exeter engages CL Jintsu at 11,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages CL Birmingham at 11,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Isis at 11,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Hotspur at 11,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Decoy at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
CL Birmingham engages CL Kuma at 6,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Exeter at 6,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Birmingham at 6,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Asakaze at 6,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages DD Isis at 6,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Hotspur at 6,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Decoy at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Hawkins at 3,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Hawkins at 3,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CL Birmingham at 3,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Isis at 3,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages DD Hotspur at 3,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Decoy at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
CA Hawkins engages CL Isuzu at 6,000 yards
CL Birmingham engages CL Isuzu at 6,000 yards
CA Hawkins engages CL Jintsu at 6,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages DD Isis at 6,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages DD Isis at 6,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Encounter at 6,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Decoy at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CA Hawkins engages CL Jintsu at 9,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Hawkins at 9,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages CL Birmingham at 9,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Decoy at 9,000 yards
DD Decoy engages DD Sagiri at 9,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Hotspur at 9,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Decoy at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Exeter at 12,000 yards
CA Exeter engages CL Isuzu at 12,000 yards
CL Birmingham engages CL Jintsu at 12,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Isis at 12,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Sagiri at 12,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Encounter at 12,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Decoy at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Hawkins at 11,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Exeter at 11,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Birmingham at 11,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Asakaze at 11,000 yards
DD Hotspur engages DD Sagiri at 11,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Sagiri at 11,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Hotspur at 11,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Hawkins at 11,000 yards
CA Hawkins engages CL Isuzu at 11,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages CL Birmingham at 11,000 yards
DD Hotspur engages DD Asakaze at 11,000 yards
DD Hotspur engages DD Sagiri at 11,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Hotspur at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CA Hawkins engages CL Jintsu at 12,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Exeter at 12,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages CL Birmingham at 12,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Isis at 12,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Hotspur at 12,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Decoy at 12,000 yards
DD Decoy engages DD Asakaze at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Hawkins at 13,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Exeter at 13,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages CA Hawkins at 13,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages DD Isis at 13,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages DD Decoy at 13,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Shikinami at 13,000 yards
DD Decoy engages DD Shikinami at 13,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
CL Isuzu
CL Kuma, Shell hits 7, heavy fires
DD Isonami, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
DD Shikinami
DD Sagiri
DD Asakaze, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CA Hawkins, Shell hits 2
CL Birmingham, Shell hits 1
DD Decoy
DD Encounter
DD Hotspur
DD Isis, Shell hits 2, on fire

Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 17% moonlight: 4,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 3,000 yards
Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 3,000 yards
CA Hawkins launches Torpedoes at CL Kuma at 3,000 yards
CA Exeter launches Torpedoes at CL Kuma at 3,000 yards
CL Birmingham fires at CL Kuma at 3,000 yards
CA Hawkins fires at DD Asakaze at 3,000 yards
DD Hotspur fires at DD Sagiri at 3,000 yards
DD Asakaze sunk by DD Encounter at 3,000 yards
DD Decoy fires at DD Isonami at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Hawkins at 2,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Exeter at 2,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages CA Hawkins at 2,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Isis at 2,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Hotspur at 2,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Encounter at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Hawkins at 5,000 yards
CA Exeter engages CL Kuma at 5,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages CL Birmingham at 5,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages DD Isis at 5,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages DD Hotspur at 5,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Sagiri at 5,000 yards
DD Decoy engages DD Sagiri at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CA Hawkins engages CL Kuma at 8,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Exeter at 8,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Birmingham at 8,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Shikinami at 8,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Shikinami at 8,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Shikinami at 8,000 yards
Shibuya, Kiyomi orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Hawkins at 12,000 yards
CA Exeter engages CL Jintsu at 12,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Birmingham at 12,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages DD Decoy at 12,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Hotspur at 12,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Isonami at 12,000 yards
DD Decoy engages DD Isonami at 12,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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RE: Nov 3: Because the night belongs to Japan :( - 11/19/2015 7:13:51 PM

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Allied losses:
Sunk: DE Talbot, AMC Hector, 3 "good" xAPs (2 Poelau, 1 Tasman class), 2 small xAKs (Transmarine class), 4 coastal xAPs (Straits)
Light damage: CA Hawkins, DDs Hotspurs, Isis --> yard time, but not at risk of sinking

Japan losses:
Sunk: DD Azakaze
Hvy Damaged: CL Kuma, DD Isonami

Not as bad as I originally thought. I will try to get Kuma next turn, it can't be too far away. If I manage to sink it, then I can consider this a victory
Problem is, the Japanese vanished, and there is a much bigger fleet in Pt Blair

EDIT (Nov 4th): Nah, I didn't catch anything

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Nov 5th: Big mistake - 11/23/2015 10:55:05 PM

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One of the worst plays I have made so far

Remember I said I sent cruisers to pursue Kuma?
well they found (other) Japanese cruisers

It was horrible to watch; but we will recover, losses are not crippling. CL Caradoc and Capetown were 2nd rate at most, APDs a bit more helpful, but I am in November 42, I will soon start to get real AMPH assets

Still will need some time to diggest it...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Prome at 52,50, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CL Kinu
DD Samidare
DD Yamakaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shirayuki
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 1
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
CL Caradoc, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Capetown, Shell hits 41, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
APD Fox, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
APD Paul Jones, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
APD Parrott, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
APD Sands, Shell hits 19, and is sunk
DMS Elliot, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 10% moonlight: 7,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
CL Capetown engages CA Suzuya at 6,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DMS Elliot at 6,000 yards
CA Suzuya engages APD Sands at 6,000 yards
DD Hayate engages APD Parrott at 6,000 yards
DD Suzukaze engages APD Paul Jones at 6,000 yards
DD Yamakaze engages DMS Elliot at 6,000 yards
DD Samidare engages APD Parrott at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CA Suzuya engages CL Caradoc at 5,000 yards
CL Capetown engages CA Mikuma at 5,000 yards
DMS Elliot sunk by CA Ashigara at 5,000 yards
CL Capetown engages CL Kinu at 5,000 yards
DD Hayate engages APD Paul Jones at 5,000 yards
CL Kinu engages APD Paul Jones at 5,000 yards
CL Capetown engages DD Shirayuki at 5,000 yards
CL Capetown engages DD Suzukaze at 5,000 yards
DD Samidare engages APD Sands at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CL Capetown engages CA Ashigara at 3,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CL Capetown at 3,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages APD Sands at 3,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages APD Parrott at 3,000 yards
DD Hayate engages APD Parrott at 3,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages APD Fox at 3,000 yards
DD Suzukaze engages APD Sands at 3,000 yards
DD Samidare engages APD Parrott at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CA Suzuya engages CL Capetown at 2,000 yards
CL Capetown sunk by CA Mikuma at 2,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages APD Parrott at 2,000 yards
DD Hayate engages APD Sands at 2,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages APD Sands at 2,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages APD Paul Jones at 2,000 yards
CL Caradoc sunk by CA Suzuya at 2,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages APD Sands at 2,000 yards
DD Hayate engages APD Fox at 2,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages APD Parrott at 2,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages APD Fox at 2,000 yards
DD Yamakaze engages APD Parrott at 2,000 yards
Palliser, Arthur FE orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 4,000 yards
APD Sands sunk by CA Suzuya at 4,000 yards
APD Parrott sunk by CA Ashigara at 4,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages APD Paul Jones at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages APD Paul Jones at 6,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages APD Paul Jones at 6,000 yards
DD Suzukaze engages APD Paul Jones at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages APD Paul Jones at 8,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages APD Fox at 8,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages APD Fox at 8,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages APD Paul Jones at 8,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages APD Fox at 8,000 yards
APD Paul Jones sunk by DD Yamakaze at 8,000 yards
Palliser, Arthur FE orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CA Suzuya engages APD Fox at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
APD Fox sunk by CA Suzuya at 10,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...

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RE: Nov 5th: Big mistake - 11/23/2015 11:44:13 PM

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By the way I'm on vacations for the next few weeks. I doubt I will be sending back the turn until much later... so don't think I have abandoned the game after this defeat

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Nov 7th: Still angry - 11/30/2015 6:40:38 PM

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Anger make me take risks I would not normally take

Yesterday there were carriers west of Prome

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RE: Nov 7th: Still angry - 11/30/2015 6:50:50 PM

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This is yesterday... enemy vanished

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RE: Nov 7th: Still angry - 11/30/2015 6:52:12 PM

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That looks like a recipe for disaster...

With all the fleet action taking place on the coast he is bound to have loads of Betty/Nells on Naval attack.

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RE: Nov 7th: Still angry - 11/30/2015 6:57:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

That looks like a recipe for disaster...

With all the fleet action taking place on the coast he is bound to have loads of Betty/Nells on Naval attack.

But I am 7 hexes from Pt Blair... and DL is zero... where is his nav search?

EDIT: but you are right... too risky... I still want to tempt a carrier action, but I have changed heading to North East...

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RE: Nov 7th: Still angry - 11/30/2015 7:23:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
But I am 7 hexes from Pt Blair... and DL is zero... where is his nav search?

EDIT: but you are right... too risky... I still want to tempt a carrier action, but I have changed heading to North East...

Could have rained in this turn.

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RE: Nov 7th: Still angry - 11/30/2015 7:59:59 PM

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which will also explain the fact Japanese TFs vanished

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RE: Nov 7th: Still angry - 12/2/2015 4:20:54 PM

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Finally got the turn, moving out was the right thing to do, as I saw all the Japanese fleet on Pt Blair.. It would had been a fight under the worst possible circumstances
thanks Jocmeister for the advice

What else? TFs were spotted, so he is probably preparing a LBA party... time to withdraw... at least he is aware I am no longer in fear of his naval power

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Nov 10th: Chungking assaulted - 12/6/2015 10:52:41 AM

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News from China; Chungking was attacked for the 1st time. Results were good for the Allies because forts were not reduced

Do you think I can attempt a counter strike? lots of disrupted Japanese troops...
but I suspect the answer is no...

Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 183097 troops, 1725 guns, 387 vehicles, Assault Value = 5565

Defending force 228729 troops, 686 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5243

Japanese adjusted assault: 1109

Allied adjusted defense: 3347

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
30791 casualties reported
Squads: 251 destroyed, 4140 disabled
Non Combat: 104 destroyed, 407 disabled
Engineers: 103 destroyed, 316 disabled
Guns lost 295 (37 destroyed, 258 disabled)
Vehicles lost 41 (17 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
13943 casualties reported
Squads: 228 destroyed, 355 disabled
Non Combat: 215 destroyed, 348 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 94 (18 destroyed, 76 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Assaulting units:
2nd Ind Engineer Regiment
32nd Division
6th Division
3rd Division
110th Division
70th Division
102nd Infantry Regiment
17th Division
37th Division
34th Division
104th Division
36th Division
69th Division
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
59th Division
41st Division
26th Division
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
21st AA Regiment
1st Army
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
23rd Army
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
12th Army
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
China Expeditionary Army
11th Army
1st Mortar Battalion
21st Mortar Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
17th Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
91st Chinese Corps
86th Chinese Corps
61st Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
3rd Prov Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Corps
81st Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
51st Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
89th Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
77th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
34th Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Corps
35th Chinese Corps
12th Chinese Corps
43rd Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
11th Construction Regiment
20th Artillery Regiment
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
1st Chinese Base Force
15th Chinese Corps
31st Group Army
2nd Group Army
18th Artillery Regiment
Central Reserve
7th Artillery Regiment
8th Construction Regiment
10th Group Army
8th New Chinese Corps
4th Group Army
10th Chinese Base Force
41st AA Regiment
7th War Area
3rd War Area
57th AT Gun Regiment
49th AA Regiment
39th Group Army
15th Group Army
Jingcha War Area
34th Group Army
48th Chinese Corps
8th Group Army
37th Group Army
13th Construction Regiment
24th Group Army
32nd Group Army
13th Group Army
1st War Area
39th Chinese Corps
12th Construction Regiment
4th War Area
38th Group Army
China Command
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment
1st Artillery Regiment
Lusu War Area
16th Group Army
7th Group Army
8th Chinese Base Force
7th Chinese Base Force
Red Chinese Army
22nd Artillery Regiment
56th AT Gun Regiment
14th Group Army
4th Chinese Base Force
3rd Group Army
83rd Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Base Force
26th Group Army
12th Group Army
23rd Group Army
CAF HQ
33rd Group Army
17th Group Army
10th Construction Regiment
36th Group Army
15th Chinese Base Force

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RE: Nov 10th: Chungking assaulted - 12/6/2015 11:18:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
Do you think I can attempt a counter strike? lots of disrupted Japanese troops...
but I suspect the answer is no...

Absolutely not.

Your only friends in China are forts and terrain. Attacking will take away the forts and give him the terrain. And that is without even mentioning the (-) supply....

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RE: Nov 10th: Chungking assaulted - 12/6/2015 11:25:51 AM

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Yes, although China is doomed, I am happy he will have to spend lots of supply on defeating it

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RE: Nov 10th: Chungking assaulted - 12/6/2015 6:39:35 PM

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Japan does appear to have lost 4/5ths of its squads to disablement. I think I might have actually ordered a counterattack there because on paper Japan should have had far fewer AV the next turn.

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RE: Nov 10th: Chungking assaulted - 12/7/2015 9:57:58 AM

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I still have the turn... after a year of fighting, we have both become lazy and rusty

I agree with JocMeister, but because I have really nothing to lose, other than maybe a few more weeks of Chungking ownership. I just set a shock attack
And actually the more Chinese LCUs destroyed the better, because they will then come back at 1/3 strengh in a few weeks

it will be fun to watch regardless of how it ends.

< Message edited by Jorge_Stanbury -- 12/7/2015 10:59:10 AM >

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