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RE: 1st assault on Manila - 10/8/2014 9:32:58 AM   
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I will ask him to go slow, or at the very least to go slow enought to guarantee there is not auto-victory early on.


So, you are playing a game where you are asking the Japanese to not try to win?

I might have a problem with that as your opponent but if he doesnt care then it is all good ;]


I think it goes back to self restrain, I would not, for example, use my 4E bombers to flatten out his bases using overwhelming 400+ bombers in night attacks, knowing that his first night figher (a weak underperforming one) comes in mid 44. We have HR in place to eliminate that ahistorical factor. Moreover, we have HRs that reduces strategic bombing to "manpower" only, and this is, again, to model the fact that strategic bombing was not effective until they started fire bombing the cities.
But you are right, I think I will never ask that... the problem is that my HR on China was that very vague, but it is still there. I think I won't be asking anything, as my Yamato spirit and my Bullshido warrior code dictates no compromise, and no negotiations!!!
The way I see it, as long as he doesn't put his main focus on China, I am fine... and I am still making some (small) effort on trying to make sense of the mess that is Allied China

My expectations: once the SRA is conquered, I want him to put his main effort in either: India, Australia, the Pacific, but not China.
I don't like China, thus I don't put a lot of time into it. Moreover, when you read othe AARs, you see that even those more experienced, smarter, better players etc than I am, devoting a lot of effort into China, cannot under the current situation stop the inevitable "Blitz" if the Japanese player wants to push there.
Some of the issues are: lack of supplies, very bad starting position, overpowered and surprisingly mobile siege guns, lack of AT, lack of starting forts, just to mention a few. Some very creative players have counters to these strategies, but basically these counters mean devoting all the Allied effort into salvaging China... which was less than a secondary theater at most in the real war. So no fun or historical, in my opinion.

I read there was some scenario development on China that might make it more interesting (gnarly roads?) but that is talking the future, and not the current game with PresterJohn.




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RE: 1st assault on Manila - 10/8/2014 9:38:46 AM   
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Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0



This might be stupid question - but in past wasnt it necessary to achieve 2:1 odds to reduce forts? And with 1:1 odds forts stay untouched? (unless combat eng reduced it)

Or my memory doesnt serve me well?



I think and this is also memory, if he had engineers in the attack, and he did have them! then they will reduce forts regardless of the odds


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RE: 1st assault on Manila - 10/8/2014 10:11:55 AM   
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Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0



This might be stupid question - but in past wasnt it necessary to achieve 2:1 odds to reduce forts? And with 1:1 odds forts stay untouched? (unless combat eng reduced it)

Or my memory doesnt serve me well?



I think and this is also memory, if he had engineers in the attack, and he did have them! then they will reduce forts regardless of the odds




But there was a note "Japanase enginners reducing fort level to 0" or something like that.

I played intensively in 2005-2007 and i think it has been changed - could anybody confirm?

In my PBEM as defender i relied that 1:1 wont be enought to reduce forts and i was surprised as hell.




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RE: 1st assault on Manila - 10/8/2014 10:41:36 AM   
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I rerun the combat replay

Message was:



No mention to engineers doing it

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RE: 1st assault on Manila - 10/8/2014 5:54:51 PM   
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I rerun the combat replay

Message was:



No mention to engineers doing it

Maybe it only mentions engineers if there is a Combat Engineer unit in the assault? Most larger infantry units include some combat engineers so they could still reduce forts without a CE unit.

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RE: 1st assault on Manila - 10/8/2014 6:32:06 PM   
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Yes, there were certainly some engineers, you can see the 16th Eng Regiment there

plus all the big units (like the 4th Div) would have some engineers in their TOE.

Q:
How bad are the overstacking penalties? I have Clark at full capacity... every Manila's withdrawing unit will go to Clark... so it can potentially go double (40,000 max: 70K to 80K depending how many units die)
Should I start moving troops from Clark to Bataan to avoid the overstack?
Should I send a Banzai attack to reduce my #s?

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RE: 1st assault on Manila - 10/8/2014 9:35:25 PM   
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In reply to an earlier question, I have found in my games that LCU attacks can drop the forts AFTER getting 1:1 odds. This happened to me in China and allowed the Chinese to capture Ichang early on in the game. If enough combat engineers come into play they might actually drop forts prior to odds calculation (and possibly knocking your fort level down 2 levels).

I'm not clear about the stacking limit penalties but would like to know as I'm currently playing a DBB-B with SLs...over to the experts.



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RE: 1st assault on Manila - 10/8/2014 10:36:14 PM   
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I've seen forts dropped at odds worse than 1 to 1, but I don't have a handle on the critical factor.

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3rd assault on Manila - 10/9/2014 1:08:20 AM   
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December 29th:
Manila is still free.. but we are getting closer to the end

Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 35537 troops, 313 guns, 305 vehicles, Assault Value = 1016

Defending force 25080 troops, 199 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 584

Japanese adjusted assault: 580

Allied adjusted defense: 283

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Afterwards, fort levels were rebuilt to L1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
898 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 42 (1 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1684 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 190 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 46 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 32 (3 destroyed, 29 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
4th Division
48th Recon Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Army
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
51st PA Infantry Division
71st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
57th PS Infantry Regiment
41st PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
4th PAAC Avn Sup
II Corps
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
I/43rd PS Inf Battalion
Cavite USN Base Force


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British Raiding force found CVs - 10/9/2014 1:22:30 AM   
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Dec 29th

The saga of the British raiders continues... but this time they run out of luck:

First: two one sided night battles that were won easily by the IJN

Night Time Surface Combat, near Sangi at 77,96, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 1
DD Inazuma
DD Kamikaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 2
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 1
DD Electra, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Encounter
DD Express
DD Isis
DD Jupiter, Shell hits 2

Improved night sighting under 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 82% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
Kaneda, Kiyoshi crosses the 'T'
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 9,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 9,000 yards
CL Kiso engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages DD Ikazuchi at 9,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Ikazuchi at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 2,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Jupiter at 2,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Jupiter at 2,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Isis at 2,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages DD Ikazuchi at 2,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Encounter at 2,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Electra at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CL Danae engages DD Okikaze at 5,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 5,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Hayashio at 5,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Express at 5,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Kamikaze at 5,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 8,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 8,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Jupiter at 8,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Ikazuchi at 8,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 11,000 yards
CL Danae engages CL Kiso at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Jupiter at 11,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Inazuma at 11,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Express at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Electra at 11,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 11,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sangi at 76,96, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, Shell hits 2
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 1
DD Inazuma
DD Kamikaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 1
CL Mauritius
DD Electra, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Encounter
DD Express, Shell hits 1
DD Isis
DD Jupiter, Shell hits 2, on fire

Improved night sighting under 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 82% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 10,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Isis at 10,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Kamikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Hayashio at 10,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Okikaze at 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 10,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Electra at 10,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Kamikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Inazuma at 10,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Okikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Natsushio at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 9,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Okikaze at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Isis at 9,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Isis at 9,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 10,000 yards
CL Danae engages CL Kiso at 10,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Electra at 10,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Inazuma at 10,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Kamikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Hayashio at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 8,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Kamikaze at 8,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 12,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Isis at 12,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Electra at 12,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Okikaze at 12,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 12,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Natsushio at 12,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 12,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Isis at 12,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Electra at 12,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Electra at 12,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Express at 12,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Electra at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 11,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Okikaze at 11,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Express at 11,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Natsushio at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 8,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Okikaze at 8,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Jupiter at 8,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Isis at 8,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Jupiter at 8,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 9,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Isis at 9,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Inazuma at 9,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Ikazuchi at 9,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
CL Danae engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Jupiter at 12,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Encounter at 12,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Encounter at 12,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Natsushio at 12,000 yards
Palliser, Arthur FE orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Mauritius at 13,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 13,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Jupiter at 13,000 yards
DD Isis engages DD Natsushio at 13,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Electra at 13,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Express at 13,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Electra at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 9,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Encounter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Natsushio at 9,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Okikaze at 9,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Inazuma at 8,000 yards
CL Danae engages DD Inazuma at 8,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Jupiter at 8,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Jupiter engages DD Natsushio at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Kiso engages CL Danae at 9,000 yards
CL Danae engages DD Okikaze at 9,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Ikazuchi at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Encounter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Electra at 9,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages CL Kiso at 9,000 yards
CL Danae engages DD Okikaze at 9,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Jupiter at 9,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Express at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Encounter at 9,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Okikaze at 9,000 yards
Kaneda, Kiyoshi orders Japanese TF to disengage
Task forces break off...


Then I finally found the missing Carriers!
as consolation prize, he lost 1 Zero, 2 Kates and 1 Val

Morning Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 64,97

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45
B5N2 Kate x 39
D3A1 Val x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 6 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Jupiter, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Express
CL Danae

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
13 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
26 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb


End results:
- DD Jupiter and DD Electra sunk
- CL Maurutius heavily damaged

CL Mauritius, CL Danae, DDs Encounter, Express and Isis are in Balikpapan, in 2 TFs. They will run full speed to Soerabaja. I have set the Buffaloes there to 100% LRCAP over one of the TFs. as to put at least some (laughable) air cover

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RE: British Raiding force found CVs - 10/9/2014 1:28:56 AM   
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This is the situation on the Solomons




Poor *AKL Pulganbar paid a heavy price to get intelligence on the KB's whereabouts.


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 106,132

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
D3A1 Val x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Pulganbar, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Pulganbar

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Manila still holds - 10/9/2014 8:06:08 AM   
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Dec 30 was a relatively quiet turn
highlights:

I got my first tanker! the little Amatsu Maru

Sub attack near Fukue-jima at 98,59

Japanese Ships
TK Amatsu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #13

Allied Ships
SS Pollack

SS Pollack launches 2 torpedoes at TK Amatsu Maru
Pollack diving deep ....
PB Kyo Maru #13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Kyo Maru #13 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

but I also lost a big AP:

Submarine attack near San Diego at 221,89

Japanese Ships
SS I-24

Allied Ships
AP W.A. Holbrook, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

AP W.A. Holbrook is sighted by SS I-24
SS I-24 launches 2 torpedoes at AP W.A. Holbrook

The British Raiding TF was not disturbed! which means CL Mauritius is now getting fixed in Soerabaja


And more good news: both Manila and Rabaul survived another day

Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 35052 troops, 314 guns, 305 vehicles, Assault Value = 960

Defending force 23534 troops, 195 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 400

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 625

Allied adjusted defense: 319

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 forts rebuilt to L1 after the end of the turn

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1353 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1162 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 124 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 20 (11 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Assaulting units:
9th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
4th Division
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
2nd Tank Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
57th PS Infantry Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
41st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
71st PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
4th PAAC Avn Sup
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
II Corps
Cavite USN Base Force


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Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3749 troops, 38 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Defending force 2694 troops, 19 guns, 174 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese adjusted assault: 35

Allied adjusted defense: 35

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
136 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
Maizuru 2nd SNLF

Defending units:
Lark Force
B Coy/NG Rifles
Rabaul Base Force







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Ship losses - Dec 30th 1941 - 10/9/2014 3:04:36 PM   
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We have almost reached the end of the year; so this is a good time to do a tally of ship losses:





Capital ships:
No capital ship lost
I have 3 heavily damaged BBs:
Maryland safe at PH
PoW and Repulse somewhere in the Indian ocean moving towards Cape Town. They are not safe, but their chances are good
BBs West Virginia and Nevada with moderate damage, I think I will try to fully repair them at PH. It should take 4 to 5 months to do so


Cruisers:
CA Houston and CA Cornwall are serious losses, they will be missed
I am not too concerned with the loss of CL Java, CL Tromp, CL Adelaide and CL Dauntless as these are obsolete WW1 era cruisers. I have plenty of them.
CA Mauritius is at high risk, getting emergency repairs very close to the front (Soerabaja)
Many more cruisers under repair, but not under serious risk


Destroyers:
I lost Phelps to a submarine torpedo and Electra and Jupiter in last turn's raiding foray.
DD John D. Ford will be lost as soon as Manila falls. (in the next couple turns).
I have several damaged DDs, worst being Witte de With getting repaired at Sorerabaja. Good thing DDs repair quickly

Japan lost at least 8 DDs:
4 Fubukis on the battle of Mersing: DD Fubuki, DD Shinonome, DD Usugumo, DD Shirakumo
1 more Fubuki hit a mine at Mersing: DD Shirayuki???
1 Minekaze torpedoed near Balikpapan: DD Nokaze
1 Shikinami at the battle of Jesselton: DD Ushio
1 Momi at the battle of Jesselton: DD Yomogi

Submarines:
9 sunk, as direct consequence of Manila's Dec 7th raid
1 torpedoed by a Japanese submarine
Plus Argonaut was severely damaged by hitting a mine at Kwajalein
I have another 12 moderately damaged submarines, these all due to Manila's raid. Most are moving to Australia to get fully repaired, the worst damaged are in Soerabaja having emergency repairs performed


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Dec 31st: The fall of Manila - 10/10/2014 5:52:26 PM   
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Dec 31, 1941 was a quiet turn,

highlights:
- Manila fell after many days of heroic resistance
- Rabaul has not; althought it will come soon
- Nells raided Christmas Island (IO). Only small craft and small auxilairies sunk

Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 35296 troops, 396 guns, 329 vehicles, Assault Value = 1074

Defending force 22424 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 265

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 595

Allied adjusted defense: 217

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Manila !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1186 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 92 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
9820 casualties reported
Squads: 431 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 405 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 53 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 116 (111 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 10
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
4th Division
65th Brigade
16th Engineer Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
14th Army
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
51st PA Infantry Division
41st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division
57th PS Infantry Regiment
71st PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
II Corps
4th PAAC Avn Sup
Cavite USN Base Force






Morning Air attack on Christmas Island IO , at 45,104

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AVP Orion, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMc MMS C, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Ciska, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Endeh, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AGP Tydeman, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMc Lawoe, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AG Canopus, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AMc Digoel, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Djampea, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML P 12, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML P 9, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Port hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Massive explosion on AVP Orion
Massive explosion on AG Canopus

Japan is eating Manila's ice-cream



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Jan 1st: Ambon invasion - 10/12/2014 8:29:01 PM   
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January 1st, 1942: the new year came with the invasion of Ambon.




this is done before invading: Makassar, Kendari, Tarakan, Balikpapan and Java.
Which means he want to cut my retreat line to Darwin and/ go for North Australia early

I am just running away, as my cruisers already tasted the kind of beating those Vals/ Kates can provide

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Jan 2nd: Terempa raid - 10/13/2014 5:46:39 PM   
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Jan 2nd highlights:

- I sent CL Caledon from Sigapore to Terempa, to do one last raid:

Results were so-so, as I was caught later on by a cruiser cover force, and then afterwards by a submarine


Night Time Surface Combat, near Terempa at 54,83, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Suyozai Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Akagisan Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Sinsyu Maru
xAK Kasagi Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Syozui Maru, Shell hits 2, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CL Caledon, Shell hits 1

Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 100% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages PB Suyozai Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Kasagi Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Caledon engages PB Suyozai Maru at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 5,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Akagisan Maru at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Kasagi Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Kasagi Maru at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages PB Suyozai Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Kasagi Maru at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages PB Suyozai Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Syozui Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Akagisan Maru at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Caledon engages xAK Kasagi Maru at 10,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...


Day Time Surface Combat, near Terempa at 54,83, Range 22,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 4
CL Kuma, Shell hits 1
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
CL Caledon, Shell hits 5

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 22,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 22,000 yards
CA Ashigara launches Long Lance Torpedoes at CL Caledon at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 15,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 11,000 yards
CL Caledon engages CA Maya at 11,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 7,000 yards
CL Caledon engages CA Maya at 7,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 9,000 yards
CL Caledon engages DD Matsukaze at 9,000 yards
Annesley, J.C. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 11,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 11,000 yards
CL Caledon engages DD Matsukaze at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 15,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Caledon at 15,000 yards
CL Caledon engages DD Matsukaze at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 20,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 20,000 yards
CL Caledon engages CL Kuma at 20,000 yards
Range increases to 23,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 23,000 yards
Range increases to 27,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 27,000 yards
Range increases to 30,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Caledon at 30,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Sub attack near Djemadja at 53,84

Japanese Ships
SS I-154

Allied Ships
CL Caledon, Torpedo hits 1

SS I-154 launches 6 torpedoes
I-154 bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection


End Results are:
Allies: 1 heavily damaged CL
Japan: 2 small *AKs on "heavy fires"



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Jan 3rd: Singapore assault and big mistake at Clark - 10/15/2014 5:28:59 AM   
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January 3rd was a relatively quiet turn; main highlights are:

a) Japan shock assaulted Singapore
b) Japan's first serious attempt to bomb (port strike) Singapore
c) Horrendous mistake at Clark Field

a) Singapore's shock assault: PresterJohn decided to cross with multiple LCUs. Results were just OK, not crippling to Japan
I don't think he brought enough troops to overwhelm it.... yet. I feel confident I can hold it for many days




Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 40416 troops, 371 guns, 291 vehicles, Assault Value = 1294

Defending force 48241 troops, 501 guns, 299 vehicles, Assault Value = 918

Japanese adjusted assault: 1042

Allied adjusted defense: 1473

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
2673 casualties reported
Squads: 55 destroyed, 369 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 63 disabled
Guns lost 36 (2 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
1138 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 222 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 32 disabled
Guns lost 56 (5 destroyed, 51 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)

Assaulting units:
55th Cavalry Regiment
12th Engineer Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
22nd Recon Regiment
21st Infantry Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
4th Ind Engineer Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
2nd Recon Regiment
4th Infantry Regiment
42nd Infantry Regiment
6th Tank Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Field Artillery Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
20th Australian Brigade
11th Indian Division
3rd SSVF Battalion
2nd Malay Battalion
1st Mysore Battalion
2/17 Dogra Battalion
2nd Loyal Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
1st Malay Battalion
SSVF Brigade
1st Manchester Battalion
2nd Gordons Battalion
5/14th Punjab Battalion
12th Indian Brigade
111th RAF Adv Base Force
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
109th RN Base Force
109th RAF Adv Base Force
112th RAF Adv Base Force
AHQ Far East
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
2nd ISF Base Force
Malayan Air Wing
Malaya Army
110th RAF Adv Base Force
III Indian Corps
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
Singapore Base Force
272/273rd Bty 80th AT Gun Regiment
Singapore Fortress
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
5th Field Regiment

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RE: Jan 3rd: Singapore assault and big mistake at Clark - 10/15/2014 5:36:49 AM   
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b) Singapore port strikes:
Multiple strikes, multiple (unchallenged) sweeps:
heavy Japanese losses, around 18 bombers lost
2 British CLs damaged

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 11 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CL Ceres, Bomb hits 1
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 4
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
9 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
16 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
6 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Ceres, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 14 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 destroyed by flak

Port hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb


Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 4
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 7
Ki-51 Sonia x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed by flak

Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
7 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1

Repair Shipyard hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb


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RE: Jan 3rd: Singapore assault and big mistake at Clark - 10/15/2014 5:39:28 AM   
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c) Big mistake at Clark:

Last turn, only a small LCU reached Clark Field... I thought it would take at least a couple days for the rest of the troops to arrive
Thus, I launched a deliberate attack... big mistake

Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22015 troops, 291 guns, 158 vehicles, Assault Value = 933

Defending force 44853 troops, 431 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 1123

Allied adjusted assault: 59

Japanese adjusted defense: 2488

Allied assault odds: 1 to 42

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
134 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
7911 casualties reported
Squads: 193 destroyed, 110 disabled
Non Combat: 89 destroyed, 118 disabled
Engineers: 20 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 56 (38 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 59 (25 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
11th PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
45th PS Infantry Regiment
803rd Aviation Engineer Battalion
1st PA Infantry Division
57th PS Infantry Regiment
71st PA Infantry Division
194th Tank Battalion
24th Avn Sup
41st PA Infantry Division
1st Constabulary Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
21st PA Infantry Division
4th Marine Regiment
35th Avn Sup
31st Infantry Regiment
31st PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
4th PAAC Avn Sup
II Corps
11th PAAC Avn Sup
Cavite USN Base Force
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
II/Prov'nl SPM Grp
!/23rd PS FA Battalion
I Corps
24th PS FA Regiment
US Forces Far East
Asiatic Fleet
Clark Field AAF Base Force
III/Prov'nl SPM Grp

Defending units:
65th Brigade
48th Recon Regiment
16th Division
48th Engineer Regiment
4th Division
4th Tank Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Army
48th Field Artillery Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion



On the bright side, Clark is now a lot less overstacked

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RE: Jan 3rd: Singapore assault and big mistake at Clark - 10/15/2014 3:22:36 PM   
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Tough break at Clark - what's the status of Bataan as fallback? Fort/Supplies?

With Singers on the bring and the PI almost under the boot, you'll likely be facing 4-5 freed up divisions by Feb. Any SIGNINT hits of where he may be going?

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RE: Jan 3rd: Singapore assault and big mistake at Clark - 10/15/2014 4:26:01 PM   
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quote:

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Tough break at Clark - what's the status of Bataan as fallback? Fort/Supplies?

With Singers on the bring and the PI almost under the boot, you'll likely be facing 4-5 freed up divisions by Feb. Any SIGNINT hits of where he may be going?


Bataan
supplies at 23,189
Fort 2.53
Stacking limits: 13,341 / 45,000
Troops: 900 infantry, 8120 second line


Clark
supplies at 13,580 (I will push them to Bataan)
Fort 2.79
Stacking limits: 51,283/40,000 ----> This after my "wise" deliberate attack; it was worst before. The overstacking is due to Manila's retreating troops
Troops: 9,221 infantry, 33,665 second line
I am moving the best troops out to Bataan, this to reduce overstack. they did not assaulted last turn, so they are in good shape.


No SigInt, but some observations:
- He just assaulted Tulagi and Stewart island: an early invasion to Luganville/ New Caledonia is likely

- Very early on, he assaulted Amchitka in the Aleutians. This I believe is a bluff, as I have Cats and submarines patroling and they have not seen any reinforcement

- Other than an early para drop on Pt Blair, nothing is happening on Burma; I still own Tavoy, Mergui, etc. From time to time I bomb Rahaeng and Chiang Mai... nothing there. Andaman sea completely open, which meant I am still able to pump supply to China and do some LCU withdrawals
I believe he will focus on a fully naval campaign to capture Rangoon, this of course once Singapore is open.



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Burma situation - 10/15/2014 5:06:17 PM   
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As mentioned before, other than a para drop on Pt. Blair, Japan has not yet done anything worth mentioning in the Burma/ Thai frontier.
The Andaman sea is still completely open, as I regularly send cargo and transport ships to Rangoon

This has allowed me to:
- send supply to Rangoon: I have 5,681 on Lashio and 10,600 on Rangoon... I know it is not a lot, but this will hopefully keep growing

- Do a 2nd Dunkirk at Rangoon. I pretty much took out the most valuable LCUs out of Burma into Chittagong, to be distributed later on to what is now called Bangladesh... This is the place I will be defending.
I will keep token forces in Burma to work as speed bumps. but definitively, I won't be fighting there

So, why not defend Burma? In the last month or so, my opponent has simply overwhelmed with superior forces anywhere he wanted to.. Piece meal defenses don't work. And once he gets Rangoon, then the entire Burma will fail like dominoes.
Moreover, his faster troops could then persecute and destroy all the leftovers.

Fighting in Bangladesh, on the other hand, means fighting on rails, I can reinforce or withdraw if needed, and maintain all troops well supplied from the many ports on west India.

Did I made a big mistake??




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RE: Burma situation - 10/15/2014 8:10:56 PM   
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Good rationale for fighting outside Burma where you have internal LOC. Two things that restrict this strategy a bit:

1. It can take up to four days for troops to change to strat mode and move - three to pack and one to exit the hex. That means if you intend to evacuate on the rails before a superior enemy force arrives, you must start packing early, and will be vulnerable to bombing while packing.
And if he gets into the hex before you leave, you cannot use strat mode to depart and have to switch back to move or combat mode, all the while vulnerable to a ground attack.

2. You must place garrisons at every rail base within his drop range to guard against paratroops cutting your LOC.

I think the key to #1 is recon/naval search everywhere he might be approaching from so you have time to move troops. And if you decide early on which units must fight to the death in place, you will not be tempted to move them when trouble appears.

Reinforcement units can be kept in strat mode ready to move.

If you do not have enough units to do #2 precaution, you can have your own paratroops standing by to counter-drop, keeping in mind he will fly in reinforcements as soon as his paras take a base.

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RE: Burma situation - 10/15/2014 8:19:39 PM   
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would you defend Akyab and Cox's Bazaar?
I want to center my defenses into Calcutta, Chittagong and Dhaka. But I don't know if I should leave the former 2 empty/ ready to grab

Another point is, he miscalculated Singapore, he is nowhere near successfuly assaulting it; thus, I will have time to keep reinforcing


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RE: Burma situation - 10/15/2014 8:49:57 PM   
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quote:

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would you defend Akyab and Cox's Bazaar?
I want to center my defenses into Calcutta, Chittagong and Dhaka. But I don't know if I should leave the former 2 empty/ ready to grab

Another point is, he miscalculated Singapore, he is nowhere near successfuly assaulting it; thus, I will have time to keep reinforcing



Great to still have Singers! Mostly they need supply so keep sending small convoys of expendable ships there, and subs too if you can afford the drop in ops elsewhere.

Personally, I would not try to defend Akyab and Cox's Bazaar because they are too isolated and easy to bombard/take from the sea.
Chittagong is worth fighting for, but can also be bombarded. Build forts as high as you can there to reduce the effects.
Expect lots of bombers and fighters. Keep your aircraft away from coastal hexes where they can be bombarded from the sea. Make him come to you with bombers and fighters, and have lots of AA and your own fighters waiting.

Don't waste troops on places like Dacca which are spur lines from the railroads. If he takes Dacca you can send a ground unit to clear it as it is worthless until he can base lots of aircraft there.

Keep your area HQs back from the front lines, but within their 5 hex range. Move India HQ (9 hex range) to Ranchi so it can support Calcutta and many of the interior bases.

Although Kohima and Imphal are not on the railroad, they have a good first-class road and many British units can strat move on it. Move by rail to the start of the road, then set a new destination along the road. Or in reverse, take road to the railhead then set a new destination on the rail lines.

India will need reinforcement if he does decide to invade in strength. Get American and Australian units lined up to go there. Some keep them at Cape Town until they know whether India or Oz will be the second wave objective.'
I prefer to get them on-map to Bombay since they can usually move down the IO to Oz if needed, and will be in good position if India is the target.

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RE: Burma situation - 10/15/2014 10:15:11 PM   
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Sorry for the confusion, no troops on Dacca, only AA, Base Forces and airgroups; Dacca is a L4 airbase that cannot be naval bombarded... thus it has its uses.
Certainly I won't be putting any line of defense there; as soon as I see risk, I will rebase the planes and strat move the AAs and Base Forces
Chittagong is at airbase L2. I will build it ut to L3
fort level 2.65 I hope to build it to L4 by the time Japan comes knocking the door

I have the following LCUs on the East Coast:
27 Div --> Target Calcutta
41 Div --> Target Perth
108 Reg --> Target Trincomalee
160 Reg --> Target Diego Garcia
185 Reg --> Target Colombo
I am not even near the PP requirements to buy them. Moreover I don't want to buy one for India and then he focuses on Australia. So I have the Queen Elizabeth parked on the East Coast, I will move more fast transports there; so depending on how things evolve, I will start buying them and rushing to their target.
For PP, I am giving priority to the construction/ BF, AA and Hawaiian regiments as I want to reinforce Suva ASAP.





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Jan 4th: Boise is lost - 10/16/2014 3:44:40 PM   
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January 4th highlights are:

- Another intense, bloody bombing on Singapore. Cruisers Ceres and Caledon got multiple bombs (but they didn't sink), but at the cost of around 10 2E bombers.
I hope he keeps bombing Singapore. Although I already rebase all fighters; AA is very strong.
I am more than willing to lose 2 or 3 cruisers if each brings down multiple bombers

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 14 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 2
CL Ceres, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
CL Caledon, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
6 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 9 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1
CL Ceres, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage

Port hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 13 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CL Ceres, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 8 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 3
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 7
Ki-51 Sonia x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 4 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CL Caledon, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires

Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
15 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CL Enterprise, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Ceres, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Caledon, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 8 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Caledon, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb




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RE: Jan 4th: Boise is lost - 10/16/2014 4:00:19 PM   
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Then disaster

I was trying to sneak 2 TFs (each around 10 to 12 ship strong, with 2 or 3 cruisers leading) into the Ceram sea. I set them to go east of Boela, close to Babo.
I knew the location of KB-1 on the Banda sea, but I thought it was moving west, and the path chosen was going to be outide his range.

Well, I miscalculated: CL Boise sunk, CA Exeter heavily damaged


Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,111

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 37
B5N2 Kate x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 5 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
CA Pensacola, Bomb hits 1
DD John D. Edwards, Bomb hits 1
DD Alden

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Magazine explodes on CL Boise

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Boela at 82,110

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
B5N2 Kate x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 13 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CA Exeter, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Marblehead, Bomb hits 1
CL De Ruyter

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 1000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb


What's next?
- One TF with damaged ships + escorts will run away on direction SE... Likely Prester John will persecute
- Dutch TF, reinforced with Marblehead and some Clemsons, will go north, hoping to cause some trouble.
- 1 cruiser and 1 Destroyer, recently repaired on Soerabaja, will go to the Makassar strait, again, to find trouble and/ or delay invasions









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Magazine explodes on CL Boise


That's just painful!

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RE: Jan 4th: Boise is lost - 10/17/2014 1:40:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IdahoNYer

quote:

Magazine explodes on CL Boise


That's just painful!


It is painful and I am still mourning its loss

But this next turn, I was able to get some small revenge; in my last thread, I mentioned I sent 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer to the Makassar strait to see if it could catch a Japanese TF.
It did! although troops had already disembarked




Day Time Surface Combat, near Madjene at 65,103, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
TB Chidori, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
xAK Terukawa Maru, Shell hits 24, and is sunk
xAK Syohei Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK London Maru, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Durban, Shell hits 3
DD Isis

Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 15,000 yards
CL Durban engages TB Chidori at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CL Durban engages TB Chidori at 11,000 yards
DD Isis engages xAK London Maru at 11,000 yards
xAK Syohei Maru sunk by DD Isis at 11,000 yards
DD Isis engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Durban engages TB Chidori at 8,000 yards
DD Isis engages xAK London Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Durban engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
xAK London Maru sunk by CL Durban at 6,000 yards
CL Durban engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CL Durban engages TB Chidori at 5,000 yards
DD Isis engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CL Durban engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 4,000 yards
DD Isis engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
TB Chidori engages CL Durban at 2,000 yards
DD Isis engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
TB Chidori sunk by CL Durban at 3,000 yards
DD Isis engages xAK Terukawa Maru at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
xAK Terukawa Maru sunk by DD Isis at 2,000 yards
Combat ends with last Japanese ship sunk...

Moreover, all the other Allied TF went "undisturbed" last turn. I think KB went south expecting all to withdraw South to Darwin, while I sent half the raiders NW and half SE to Horn Isl.

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