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Fortified regions - 9/8/2014 8:47:13 AM

delta107

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Is it a bad idea to mass deploy FR? I've deployed lots of FR around Moscow(10-12 I think), both in the choke points north and around the capital itself. I guess this would qualify as a bad strategy around here... I forgot to mention the legions of labor squads eager to defend father Stalin by erecting trenches and tank ditches.

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RE: Fortified regions - 9/8/2014 9:15:13 AM

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That seems to be the standard approach, you even get an injection of PP for it. You simply need to give them time to build up, and they need combined arms (I put 1 infantry and 1 tank with them always) for them to actually stop a German assault. I use FR only to strengthen defensive positions of armies, then they seem very effective, but only on more defensible terrain.

On example is Pskov, which I managed to hold for 2.5 months in 1941 one game, thereby preventing the Germans from reaching Leningrad that winter.

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RE: Fortified regions - 9/8/2014 10:39:52 AM

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I'm trying to build up the Moscow defense from the inside out. I hope the inner ring of 6-7 FR will reinforce and build up(I'm willing to delegate construction units+sappers of course, 3 per FR if need be) the fort level to 4 by winter. But it's already 31 July and I've already lost Smolensk, and looks like the whole front up to Kiev will collapse unless I retreat soon. There's still a great deal of industry in Ukraine while Moscow is essentially defenseless...

I've made the decision to keep Odessa, it's pretty much fortified. It's weird that Odessa hex doesn't go higher than level 4 10% Fort. I assume it's related to some supply issue. I hope Odessa will be a meat-grinder. I can afford to lose manpower, while the Axis cannot.

Also, what is the historical reason for the corps HQ disbanding? Do you know of any book that explains this situation(specifically related to corps HQ)?

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RE: Fortified regions - 9/8/2014 11:20:09 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: delta107

I'm trying to build up the Moscow defense from the inside out. I hope the inner ring of 6-7 FR will reinforce and build up(I'm willing to delegate construction units+sappers of course, 3 per FR if need be) the fort level to 4 by winter. But it's already 31 July and I've already lost Smolensk, and looks like the whole front up to Kiev will collapse unless I retreat soon. There's still a great deal of industry in Ukraine while Moscow is essentially defenseless...

I've made the decision to keep Odessa, it's pretty much fortified. It's weird that Odessa hex doesn't go higher than level 4 10% Fort. I assume it's related to some supply issue. I hope Odessa will be a meat-grinder. I can afford to loose manpower, while the Axis cannot.

Also, what is the historical reason for the corps HQ disbanding? Do you know of any book that explains this situation(specifically related to corps HQ)?

overall your position sounds ok. Odessa is a good investment, if its cut off the units will rout if it falls so you save them and it can force a useful diversion of German strength.

They found the corps-army structure put too much pressure on a very limited command capacity. Things were in such a mess in July-September that orders just got lost, and it was as easy to link the divisions to armies. At the start you have an OOB as the Soviets envisaged the war. The armies/corps in the Fronts were meant to stop the German offensive. Then the corps linked to the Front were meant to give them flexibility about where and how to apply their counterattack.

When the corps were reconstructed it was an organisational concept not an intermediate command level.

The game is pretty good at all this - it misses some odd cases such as command corps staying in the OOB for some time on the quieter sector and some combat formations at the corps level being reported as existing by about Feb 42, but overall the flow is right.

As a tip, don't load up your armies to the 24 capacity, keep them at 21 (at the most) which is the capacity from October or even better near to 18 (which is the final position). This will save you admin points over time and also makes better use of the low support capacity of most Soviet army HQs

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RE: Fortified regions - 9/8/2014 12:37:54 PM

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Is there any chance of holding the Crimean choke points in the North?

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