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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/12/2014 6:11:16 PM   
Jim D Burns


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Status: offline 		Gary's been coding games since when, mid 80s? I doubt he'll be doing any other major designs past the big one that joins it all together. Unless you don't think he'd ever want to retire. I've loved every game he's ever made and would love him to go on till he falls over at his keyboard, but my guess is retirement would follow this last big effort.

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/12/2014 8:37:48 PM   
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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/12/2014 9:36:02 PM   
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He can retired any time after that.

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/12/2014 9:55:10 PM   
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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/12/2014 10:35:27 PM   
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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/14/2014 11:28:07 PM   
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Retirement? Can't blame him for that, since I just did last month! I guess he might be as old as me (Can't tell from his photo on the 2by3 site)I do remember his games back in the SSI text game days, seems to me.


Actually, he came in after the text days (ie. Computer Napoleonics from 1980) and is responsible for the entire "dot" days (graphics in lo-res... See 1982's Guadalcanal Campaign & Bomb Alley). Where it really took off for me was with 1985' Kampfgruppe (until I stumbled on it's Achilles heel, which was corrected for Battlegroup).

Having 32 years of published computer wargames is nothing to sneeze at. We should all be looking forward his next 32 years worth! I'm already salivating over "Armchairs in the East," "Wheelchairs in the West," "Geriatrics against Japan."


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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/14/2014 11:45:13 PM   
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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 2:09:01 AM   
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until I stumbled on it's Achilles heel


That wouldn't have been the unlimited stacking feature would it?

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 2:21:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GeneralChaos

How about a monster US Civil War game? Something like a 200 yard hex with millions of total hexes!


Civil War is not in the Grigsby Game cycle... WWII or WWIII/Cold War.

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ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

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until I stumbled on it's Achilles heel


That wouldn't have been the unlimited stacking feature would it?


I was trying not to ruin it for others that hadn't stumbled upon it (younger people should really look into retro-gaming more). If a person had enough initiative, I believe the fix from Battlegroup could be incorporated into Kampfgruppe (especially as most of Kampfgruppe is written in Applesoft basic).

But I sure had a whole lot of fun with it until I accidentally stumbled on that. That was the game that turned me on the Eastern front (and off of the Western front). Not only that, but it convinced me that computer wargaming was more fun than a hangover! (although there were similarities the next day, regarding amounts of sleep obtained)

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 2:31:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: E
Civil War is not in the Grigsby Game cycle... WWII or WWIII/Cold War.


Sure it is:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=484

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 2:54:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns


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ORIGINAL: E
Civil War is not in the Grigsby Game cycle... WWII or WWIII/Cold War.


Sure it is:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=484



Are you aware this is the Matrix Games general discussion area? There is absolutely no room for facts here! This area is reserved for name calling, feuds, politics, European-only sports, slander, libel, misquotes, misdirection, and spam (if you don't believe me, randomly read three or more other threads).

(And besides, that's an anomaly outside of the cycle! I think he must've been dabbling in substances between cycles! That's the only valid explanation for that aberration from a well-known business plan!)

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 4:21:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: E


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ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns


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ORIGINAL: E
Civil War is not in the Grigsby Game cycle... WWII or WWIII/Cold War.


Sure it is:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=484



Are you aware this is the Matrix Games general discussion area? There is absolutely no room for facts here! This area is reserved for name calling, feuds, politics, European-only sports, slander, libel, misquotes, misdirection, and spam (if you don't believe me, randomly read three or more other threads).

(And besides, that's an anomaly outside of the cycle! I think he must've been dabbling in substances between cycles! That's the only valid explanation for that aberration from a well-known business plan!)


You left out australian beauties thread that is rarely about australian beauties anymore an of course And the more popular "Let's bash STEAM" threads that pop up every so often and make everybody happy.

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 4:48:35 AM   
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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 8:17:14 AM   
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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 1:41:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Grognerd

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Actually, he came in after the text days (ie. Computer Napoleonics from 1980) and is responsible for the entire "dot" days (graphics in lo-res... See 1982's Guadalcanal Campaign & Bomb Alley).

You are correct, after the post I got to thinking that maybe it was Norm Koeger I was thinking about!
Retirement is fun, I actually reloaded East Front on this new computer and trying to learn it over again before West Front is out. Not been playing many wargames lately both my longtime gaming buddies got caught up in life and don't play anymore.
Who made that color east front game I played on my Atari 130 back in 1978/79 more or less? Was that Gary? Losing my memory I'm afraid.

Chris Crawford did Eastern Front.
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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 5:17:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Does Gary Grigsby lurk or post here? If he does, presumably he's not using his name as his forum handle.

Jim Burns mentioned that he's planning a massive merger of WITE/WITW. I know this has been asked before, but is there any realistic possibility they'd toss in WITP for good measure? :)

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 5:36:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Grotius

Does Gary Grigsby lurk or post here? If he does, presumably he's not using his name as his forum handle.

Jim Burns mentioned that he's planning a massive merger of WITE/WITW. I know this has been asked before, but is there any realistic possibility they'd toss in WITP for good measure? :)


Joel Billings was answering questions in the WITE forum. And he was using his real name.

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 8:17:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Grotius
but is there any realistic possibility they'd toss in WITP for good measure? :)


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To bear with unbearable sorrow
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To right the unrightable wrong
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This is my quest
To follow that star
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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 9:19:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

Gary's been coding games since when, mid 80s? I doubt he'll be doing any other major designs past the big one that joins it all together. Unless you don't think he'd ever want to retire. I've loved every game he's ever made and would love him to go on till he falls over at his keyboard, but my guess is retirement would follow this last big effort.

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/15/2014 10:43:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wodin

The man can not retire until he leaves us with a departing gift of a new monster Steel Panthers.
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ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

Gary's been coding games since when, mid 80s? I doubt he'll be doing any other major designs past the big one that joins it all together. Unless you don't think he'd ever want to retire. I've loved every game he's ever made and would love him to go on till he falls over at his keyboard, but my guess is retirement would follow this last big effort.

Jim



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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/16/2014 3:03:48 AM   
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How about starting a thread about members here who have 2 accounts and have the same basic writing style it is obvious it is the same person.


This made me LAUGH.

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/16/2014 12:17:56 PM   
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Since 1999, I have not had the same account name consistently. I happen to know of numerous persons for one of numerous reasons all valid that have had to redo their account.

Aside from not retaining the entirely meaningless post count totals, and the equally meaningless account seniority states, you gain nothing else for never having changed in any fashion.

Some of the members here, have had the same writing style (a tedious one) and the same original account (judging by post counts and join date) and likely think they possess some sort of magical quality (they don't :) ). I suppose it might be interesting to know precisely how many posts I personally have posted since 2000, but considering database disasters of the past render that calculation impossible. Besides, epenis behaviour is a man's problem. I don't really care how many posts any of you have posted. Considering the percentage of them where you have posted something memorable like '+1' (riveting dialogue that eh).

Regardless of the conspiracies some of you boys desperately need to believe in, there is only one me here. Some times I wonder why this me is here :)

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/16/2014 1:22:46 PM   
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I like you stuff, "epenis" is going to be especially inflammatory. I also like Ann Coulter so maybe I'm the weird one.

Keep it up.

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/16/2014 1:53:59 PM   
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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/16/2014 3:13:28 PM   
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Can someone translate Charlie's post into Canadian English for me?

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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/17/2014 2:43:43 PM   
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RE: 2By3 games of the future - 11/17/2014 3:18:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: charlie0311

MS Warg,

I like you stuff, "epenis" is going to be especially inflammatory. I also like Ann Coulter so maybe I'm the weird one.

Keep it up.



Then add me to the weird list, for I also like Ann Coulter.

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