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RE: Bought it: Really Enjoying Getting into It - 12/6/2014 4:20:39 PM

warspite1

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ORIGINAL: Numdydar

Coming from AE where everything revolves around naval actions, I of course did not consider the actions you listed as being included in naval actions. Which as you point out clearly should be.

So you are correct in that there a lot of naval actions outside of what is typically not seen in AE that would be of critical importance in the ETO.

And through our discussion, we have come to an agreement in that we both want a naval system that works well for the ETO but not at the AE level. I guess that means I lost since I agreed with you first ?

warspite1

Lost? No its a useful discussion - and one I hope helps to persuade potential developers of an early war expansion

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RE: Bought it: Really Enjoying Getting into It - 12/6/2014 4:42:40 PM

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If it were not for the Ugly Sisters I'd not be here - my grandmother's first fianc� was lost on the Glorious. His replacement (my grandfather) was RN in TF 'O' on D-Day.

It's really interesting to watch the discussions on WitW as it brings the fanbase of WitP and WitE closer - both games I love. But remember one is a land centric 7 day IGOUGO and the other a naval centric daily WEGO. They are still very different games.

Obviously for WitE/WitW we have yet to tackle the naval bit and I truly have not a clue on the future naval construct. Were I an objective observer I would comment that a game with individual pilots and not named capital ships would seem odd. GG, JB and PZ are genii and what they create will be fantastic so I'm with them all the way no matter what they choose.

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RE: Bought it: Really Enjoying Getting into It - 12/6/2014 4:50:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

If it were not for the Ugly Sisters I'd not be here - my grandmother's first fianc� was lost on the Glorious. His replacement (my grandfather) was RN in TF 'O' on D-Day.

It's really interesting to watch the discussions on WitW as it brings the fanbase of WitP and WitE closer - both games I love. But remember one is a land centric 7 day IGOUGO and the other a naval centric daily WEGO. They are still very different games.

Obviously for WitE/WitW we have yet to tackle the naval bit and I truly have not a clue on the future naval construct. Were I an objective observer I would comment that a game with individual pilots and not named capital ships would seem odd. GG, JB and PZ are genii and what they create will be fantastic so I'm with them all the way no matter what they choose.

warspite1

Loss of the Glorious was one weird (and ultimately) tragic episode

At least it worked for you

I would hope that no one would seriously want WITP-AE type detail in Europe

But - and my last word on the subject - please give serious consideration when the time comes, to doing the naval war justice. There is so much extra depth that the naval aspect can bring to the game.

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RE: Bought it: Really Enjoying Getting into It - 12/7/2014 1:17:29 PM

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90% of all naval systems in the ETO seems to just be more of an afterthought versus anything that could model the diversity of operations from the Med to the Artic Circle. It is more like "Oh. There were ships in the war in the ETO. We should include some, through some code together too. We don't need to spend much time on this since other than subs not much was going on for most of the war."

So if the team can come up with anything close to the war the air war is represented in the game, then I will be very happy

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RE: Bought it: Really Enjoying Getting into It - 12/7/2014 1:32:46 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Numdydar

+1

90% of all naval systems in the ETO seems to just be more of an afterthought versus anything that could model the diversity of operations from the Med to the Artic Circle. It is more like "Oh. There were ships in the war in the ETO. We should include some, through some code together too. We don't need to spend much time on this since other than subs not much was going on for most of the war."

So if the team can come up with anything close to the war the air war is represented in the game, then I will be very happy

warspite1

I think having an Air War type system for the naval war would work - and you could still have every ship represented. The player could then have the choice of letting the computer decide the "details" or the player could.

E.g. At start the British have a box for Home Fleet and an historical set up of units within. There could be boxes for Arctic Convoy, North Atlantic Convoy, Mediterranean Fleet (East (Alex) and West (Gibraltar)) etc etc

Thereafter the player could decide the make up of each box or let the computer decide (depending on % preferences chosen).

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