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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/21/2015 9:59:13 AM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/21/2015 3:32:25 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/21/2015 3:50:19 PM   
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Big disturbance in the force in China. 38K casualties?

There won't be any Chinamen left!

Ground combat at Chengchow (88,44)



If you keep defending open terrain just off of major IJA rail arteries, you'll be right. You really should pull out of *any* open Chinese terrain in the South and Southeast of China immediately.

ETA: Should have.

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The defense of Rabaul was, in retrospect, "irrational exuberance"


Are the Australian defensive asset classes likely to experience trend line asset inflation or is the defense of Brisbane an asset class bubble?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/21/2015 3:53:43 PM   
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Any moves to bring the British 18th Div back from Darwin? They'd be useful north of Brisbane about now. Stay away from defending Rockhampton, the jap CA/BB's will nuke you in a clear hex. Bundaberg can also be easily bypassed by road.

Have you been stockpiling squads to upgrade the Aussie divisions yet? Fighters or bombers on the way from CONUS?

What about the Aussies that come in from Aden- to India, Australia or elsewhere?



Also, what about reinforcements to / from Perth? These can be transcontinentally (is that a word? Well, it is now) railed east to support the defenses there.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/21/2015 3:59:49 PM   
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Big disturbance in the force in China. 38K casualties?

There won't be any Chinamen left!

Ground combat at Chengchow (88,44)



If you keep defending open terrain just off of major IJA rail arteries, you'll be right. You really should pull out of *any* open Chinese terrain in the South and Southeast of China immediately.

ETA: Should have.


This is true. Hold Changsha and fall back to the woods.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/21/2015 4:02:18 PM   
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The defense of Rabaul was, in retrospect, "irrational exuberance"


Are the Australian defensive asset classes likely to experience trend line asset inflation or is the defense of Brisbane an asset class bubble?


Personally, in light of the recent Yellow Peril trend line, I would favor some serious Quantitative Easing...as fast as possible back toward Brisbane.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/21/2015 4:15:19 PM   
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1) USN...well...not so much

2) 2 x 2/3rd strength P-39 squadrons. All the P-40 squadrons evacuated from the PI. USMC dive bomber squadrons (one still SBD-1, one just converted to SBD-3)
All the B-17's evacuated from the PI and all the unrestricted B-17 squadrons except the Hawaiian flagged squadrons. 3 x B-26 squdrons. 2 x Wildcat squadrons.
1 1/2 squadrons of A-24's

3) One regiment of infantry coming from New Zealand.


I tend to agree about Br 18 Div. At this point the Shinto-boys have nearly 2 division equivalents of infantry ashore in Oz. They can do some serious damage where they are and less damage at Darwin. This appears not to be a feint.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/21/2015 10:17:28 PM   
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Have you been stockpiling squads to upgrade the Aussie divisions yet?


Hmmmm. Pretend I didn't read the manual

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What about the Aussies that come in from Aden- to India, Australia or elsewhere?



Still 33 days from arrival.


It seems we may have been stockpiling Australian squads without even trying? I wonder if we can sell those Papuan squads?




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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/21/2015 10:26:48 PM   
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Mr. Curtin: <enters from a greeting room> Absolutely lovely group of young ladies from Cairns. Very fit! Ahhhhh.
Where were we? Ah, yes. War materiel. Well, perhaps we can trade those bloody sound detectors for some 25 Lb guns? At this point I think we should tell Mr. Churchill to stuff his North African campaign and send us our boys.



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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/22/2015 3:10:18 AM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/22/2015 3:28:44 AM   
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I saw that list and thought it said Carrier Set (3), with 19 in pool. I thought wow, that would be useful, I'd take a few sets of 3 carriers!

I noticed that one as well, but took the Sect to be short for Section. So I now assume these are the Anthrax infested kangaroos and drunken feral pigs that will be unleashed upon the unsuspecting Japanese. Or maybe they just used some gastrointestinal bug like the "Australian Quick March" virus to avoid any war crimes issues later.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/23/2015 5:45:22 PM   
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Mr. Curtin: <enters from a greeting room> Absolutely lovely group of young ladies from Cairns. Very fit! Ahhhhh.





Umm...what does "greeting" mean in Australian vernacular?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/26/2015 10:19:43 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/26/2015 10:49:06 PM   
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It only has three rotors, but at least it got you off page 2!

http://www.asciimation.co.nz/bb/2015/03/24/a-three-rotor-enigma-machine-wrist-watch


Double posting in both AAR's my Argletonian colleague?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 3/29/2015 2:39:16 PM   
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Father Emmanoulides: Why didn't they take us?

Ecclesiastical Mate First Class Gabriel: Something about orders from Chaplain Corps HQ to "fight to the last man"

Father Emmanoulides: But I'm a pacifist.

Ecclesiastical Mate First Class Gabriel: Yeah, that's what I said, Padre.

Father Emmanoulides: Well, I suppose it's the Lord's will. Would you like to hear the sermon I prepared?

Ecclesiastical Mate First Class Gabriel: What's it on, Padre?

Father Emmanoulides: Sacrifice for Jesus.

Ecclesiastical Mate First Class Gabriel: Ummmmm...not right now, Padre.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/1/2015 5:06:03 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/1/2015 6:35:45 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/1/2015 9:07:52 PM   
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Maybe they can have the wake on the USS Wake Island?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/1/2015 10:27:11 PM   
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Maybe they can have the wake on the USS Wake Island?


Hmm... might be bad for morale to already have a ship built, and named in memory of the defenders, when they are still there...

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/2/2015 3:17:31 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/2/2015 4:23:57 PM   
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FAM: <looks at inelligence report> Now...wait a minute...do you expect me to believe we have not lost a ship in 2 days and that we are actually sinking Jap ships? OK, where's the camera?

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FAM: <looks at inelligence report> Now...wait a minute...do you expect me to believe we have not lost a ship in 2 days and the we are actually sinking Jap ships? OK, where's the camera?

Well yesterday WAS RL April Fools Day!

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/2/2015 4:40:28 PM   
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<romantic table for two>


Foreign looking man in Hawaiian shirt, beginning to smell like street person: Do you think Japan-mens rosing war?

Othah foreign looking man in Hawaiian shirt, beginning to smell like street person: Not to worry Hata. Probabry just propaganda.

FAM: <walks over to table> Hey, did you guys hear? We sank some Jap transports and a big tanker and some other ****! Whoa...what are Fillipinos allergic to soap and water?

Othah foreign looking man in Hawaiian shirt, beginning to smell like street person: <looks down in shame> Not-ah have othah crothes.

FAM: Hell, why didn't you say something? They have silk shirts with freakin' palm trees in the gift shop for $2. Where I come from you can't even get an order of fries for that.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/2/2015 5:06:10 PM   
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Defenders of Rockhampton did not get the memo about the war being over.

Invasion Support action off Rockhampton (95,152)

25 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Brazil Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
LSD Shinshu Maru
DD Tsuga

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

and

Invasion Support action off Rockhampton (95,152)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Miike Maru, Shell hits 1
AK Hirokawa Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
LSD Shinshu Maru


and...but the LYB's keep coming. It's as if they see it as a sacred duty or something,

Invasion Support action off Rockhampton (95,152)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

14 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Miike Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
LSD Shinshu Maru

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/2/2015 5:10:10 PM   
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Morning Air attack on Rockhampton RAN Base Force, at 95,152 (Rockhampton)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
G3M2 Nell x 16
G4M1 Betty x 5

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Bah. That didn't work so good. LRCAP from Townsville?

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rockhampton at 95,152

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 9
SBD-3 Dauntless x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AK Hirokawa Maru, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Miike Maru, on fire

B-26's from Brisbane. About as good as you could expect from 6 planes and middling pilots.

Morning Air attack on 38th Division, at 95,152 (Rockhampton)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Nice of the empire to park a bunch of Ronsons right where the Norden bombsights were aimed.
B-17's from Sydney.

Morning Air attack on 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion, at 95,152 (Rockhampton)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 11
B-17E Fortress x 16

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 30 (17 destroyed, 13 disabled)

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/2/2015 5:15:15 PM   
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Uggh. It seems the airfield at Townsville is up and running.



You'd think the defenders of Townsville would have put up a better fight.




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Uggh. It seems the airfield at Townsville is up and running.



You'd think the defenders of Townsville would have put up a better fight.





I blame Churchill. The best Australian units are in Lybia and Egypt(or building railroads in Burma)

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/2/2015 5:20:34 PM   
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Ground combat at Rockhampton (95,152)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 11796 troops, 98 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 389

Defending force 3730 troops, 32 guns, 67 vehicles, Assault Value = 124

Japanese adjusted assault: 190

Allied adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Rockhampton !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
149 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1262 casualties reported
Squads: 70 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 75 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 52 (51 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
38th Division

Defending units:
12th LH Cav Regiment
11th LH Motor Regiment
14th LH MG Regiment
Rockhampton RAN Base Force

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/2/2015 5:22:12 PM   
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Ground combat at Rangoon (54,53)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23068 troops, 225 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 704

Defending force 9616 troops, 90 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 222

Japanese adjusted assault: 339

Allied adjusted defense: 193

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
591 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled

Allied ground losses:
663 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 82 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Assaulting units:
55th Engineer Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
2nd RTA Division
4th RTA/B Division
4th RTA/C Division
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Army
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
9/11th Sikh Battalion
2nd King Own YLI Battalion
1st Gloucestershire Battalion
12th Burma Rifles Battalion
Rangoon BAF Battalion
4/14th Punjab Battalion
4/8th Gurkha Battalion
16th Indian Brigade
103rd RN Base Force
27th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
4th Burma Rifles Battalion

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