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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/12/2016 11:49:04 PM   
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I think that Geelong was closer to the sea before Global Cooling in the "d" timeline. Screwed up everything!



Wasn't that WWII(c) or even WWII(b)?

Also, I always got the idea that Global Cooling was made up in order to sell insulated Quonset huts in which case, there would be no catastrophic sea level fall.

On the other hand, if there was Global Cooling in your "d" timeline but not in my "d" timeline......then....we aren't in the same current <HEAD EXPLODES!>

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 11:06:16 AM   
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R's on their way back to Perth. Hopefully they can make a hole some of JJ's floaty things.

Meanwhile at Perth (the hot one, not the one in the home of the porridge guns) the diggers (not the dyke diggers, the ones with corks around their hats, are landing






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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 1:18:52 PM   
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R's on their way back to Perth. Hopefully they can make a hole some of JJ's floaty things.


This is sort of like Jackspeak which I am beginning to sort of understand. "R's" means R class battleships (Revenge,
Resolution, Remoulade that sort of thing).

We need everything we can get in Oz because we will have around 85,000 troops trapped in Melbourne and Sydney in pretty short order and they aren't going to be able to hold on forever. 85K is enough to lose the war. They aren't Chinamen, after all.


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 1:32:47 PM   
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If you brought back Global Cooling, would supply be able to flow in across the frozen rivers like it did during winter in Leningrad?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 1:37:33 PM   
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If you brought back Global Cooling, would supply be able to flow in across the frozen rivers like it did during winter in Leningrad?



Nice. The Lake Ladoga highway! The problem is who is going to buy War Bounds after we turn all the cute Koala Bears into Koalasickles?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 1:38:26 PM   
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..El mapa




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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 1:42:55 PM   
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War Bounds


We're going to arm the roos? Bangin'

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 2:03:40 PM   
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A deengo ayte my War Bound.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 3:05:11 PM   
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War Bounds


We're going to arm the roos? Bangin'

Ramroo Rules!!




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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 5:19:20 PM   
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********************March 22, 1942(e)***************


Whipple and Parrot achieve surprise and evade the covering surface forces......and.....fail.
How do you let nearly 30 ships, some barely able to manage 12 kts, haul anchor and outrun your 35 kt destroyer?

Night Time Surface Combat, near Geelong at 81,170, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kikuzuki
DD Yuzuki, Shell hits 1
APD Shimakaze
E Ishigaki
DMS W-19
AK Awazisan Maru
AK Amagisan Maru
AK Yamasimo Maru
xAK Yamahuku Maru
xAK Kimishima Maru
xAK Panama Maru
xAK Tonan Maru
xAK Ginyo Maru
xAK Africa Maru
xAK Arabia Maru
xAK Kikukawa Maru
xAK Kirikawa Maru
xAP Keihuku Maru, Shell hits 1
xAP Ussuri Maru
xAP Ural Maru
xAP Baikal Maru
xAP Tango Maru
xAP Kasado Maru
xAP Kowa Maru
xAP Palau Maru

Allied Ships
DD Whipple
DD Parrott, Shell hits 1, on fire


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 5:23:34 PM   
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Whipple later sinks trying to make Adelaide.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Portsea at 81,171, Range 14,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
CL Yura
DD Harusame, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Whipple, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Parrott, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 5:32:52 PM   
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Geelong and Melbourne are socked in. No air attacks. 2 AK's trying to deliver supplies to Sydney run into Fuso and Yamashiro heading back to Brisbane.

Task Force Tokyo International moves West about 400 miles toward Adelaide. Carriers bombers sink 2 AKL trying for Sydney.


Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kingscote at 73,166

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
B5N1 Kate x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAKL James Cook, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk
xAKL Mulcra, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage


If the KB attacks Adelaide it won't hurt very much but they could really do some damage at Perth.
On the other hand, if they move further West we can get some infantry in to Hobart.

JJ turns loose their arty at Melbourne and we pound them again. IJA 48th Div is one its way to Melbourne...somewhere.

Ground combat at Melbourne (82,170)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 19271 troops, 191 guns, 147 vehicles, Assault Value = 615

Defending force 39359 troops, 603 guns, 489 vehicles, Assault Value = 880

Japanese ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
5th Division
18th/C Division
16th Army
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
21st Infantry Regiment
6th Australian Brigade
8th Australian Brigade
7th Australian Brigade
15th Australian Brigade
101st LH Motor Regiment
182nd Infantry Regiment
132nd Infantry Regiment
4th Australian Brigade
25th Cav Recce Regiment
34th Infantry Regiment
Melbourne Fortress
259th Coastal Artillery Battalion
1st RAA Med Arty Regiment
810th Aviation Engineer Battalion
Melbourne RAN Base Force
New Guinea Force
Brisbane RAN Base Force
70th Coast AA Regiment
21st Base Group
2/3rd Light AA Regiment
Melbourne OTU Base Force
VII US Fighter Cmnd


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 5:34:37 PM   
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N&IC: Weak bombardment at Koumac.

Night Naval bombardment of Koumac at 113,156

Allied Ships
BB Arizona
DD Crane
DD Kennison
DD Stuart

Japanese ground losses:
201 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Runway hits 1
Port hits 1

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Arizona
BB Arizona firing at 33rd/C Division
DD Crane firing at 33rd/A Division
DD Kennison firing at Koumac
DD Stuart firing at 33rd/A Division

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 5:35:56 PM   
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All the B-17's at Noumea have been sent to Oz

Afternoon Air attack on Koumac , at 113,156

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
A-20A Havoc x 6
LB-30 Liberator x 9
P-400 Airacobra x 12
P-40B Warhawk x 2
F4F-3A Wildcat x 7
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 15


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 5:42:24 PM   
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Burma/India: Cornwall bombards Akyab. Not very effective. Imperiarh Guards closing in on Chittagong.

Night Naval bombardment of Akyab at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
CA Cornwall

Japanese ground losses:
270 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 5
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Walrus II acting as spotter for CA Cornwall
CA Cornwall firing at Akyab

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 6:19:37 PM   
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That looked immensely effective for one CA! 28 squads disabled, 2 squads destroyed, plus all those base and supply hits.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 6:29:17 PM   
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That looked immensely effective for one CA! 28 squads disabled, 2 squads destroyed, plus all those base and supply hits.


I meant in terms of an effect on the AF. Might have been ground support troops, of course, which will impede air activity.


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/13/2016 9:01:02 PM   
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Are you flying any of the non-essential troops out of Melbourne and/or supplies in or using subs for the same purpose? The US torpedoes are so crappy in 42 that in emergency situations the fleet boats can set up a supply chain to get 100 or so supply points per turn, especially if you have a nearby base where they can load up.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/21/2016 12:15:56 PM   
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Are you flying any of the non-essential troops out of Melbourne and/or supplies in or using subs for the same purpose? The US torpedoes are so crappy in 42 that in emergency situations the fleet boats can set up a supply chain to get 100 or so supply points per turn, especially if you have a nearby base where they can load up.


Most of the units at Melbourne are there on purpose because we deduced some time ago that Melbourne was a
likely target. The aviation support, Air HQ and even the ground support HQ are valuable as are the engineers.

We are not going to cede air control over Melbourne right away. We do have two understrength serve Australian brigades which mostly lost their infantry. I imagine they can now draw infantry squads from the "Emergency Convoy" in Capetown. That seems the least they can do after bringing us a bunch of Vengeance dive bombers and Mitchell II's that we can't use.


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/21/2016 12:23:15 PM   
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**************March 23, 1942(e)************

Oz: HMS Jupiter has been patched up at Melbourne. I believe Admiral Lord SPrior created this TF and must have chosen the "Dipped in Magical Waters Like Achilles" setting as you will soon see.

But first, a brush with transports on her exit from Melbourne. It is rumored the IJN are (normally, an American would use "is" here but I just wanted to sound more sophisticated) considering a complaint of racial bias against Jupiter.

ight Time Surface Combat, near Portsea at 81,172, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
CL Yura
DD Kikuzuki
xAK Yamahuku Maru
xAK Kimishima Maru
xAK Panama Maru
xAK Tonan Maru
xAK Ginyo Maru
xAK Africa Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Arabia Maru
xAK Kikukawa Maru
xAK Kirikawa Maru

Allied Ships
DD Jupiter




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Japs evidently mean to bombard Hobart (Tasmania) but we have a surprise package.

TF 36 encounters mine field at Hobart (81,179)

Japanese Ships
DD Tanikaze, Mine hits 1, on fire


A mine is a terrible thing to waste.

Hobart "Fortress" is crappy. It's probably form the 1870's..a couple of Dahlgren's and a few smoothbore Napoleans.

"LOAD THE SMOOTHBORES WITH GRAPESHOT LADS AND WAIT FOR MY ORDER TO FIRE! WAIT FOR IT...WAIT FOR IT...WAIT..."


Night Naval bombardment of Hobart at 81,179 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

14 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
DD Mochizuki

Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Hobart Fortress firing at CA Nachi
CA Nachi firing at Hobart Fortress
Hobart Fortress firing at DD Mochizuki
DD Mochizuki firing at Hobart Fortress

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/21/2016 12:35:28 PM   
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This is the miracle waters of Achilles bit. Most likely JJ is low on ammo. Even so, a good time was had by all aboard Jupiter. You might say they were over the moon.


Day Time Surface Combat, near Hobart at 84,178, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
DD Tanikaze, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Mochizuki, Shell hits 4, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Jupiter

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/21/2016 12:42:35 PM   
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Big fight over Tamworth (NW of Sydney). Tamworth has a level 2 AF and would be immune from naval bombardment of course. JJ invests no less that 40 fighter sorties and 97 medium bombers sorties over Tamworth today. We send B-26's from Port Kembla. JJ drops more paratroops and attacks again. Some of our retreating lads are caught in move mode.

We hold for a 3rd day.

Ground combat at Tamworth (91,163)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1638 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Defending force 2435 troops, 18 guns, 129 vehicles, Assault Value = 84

Japanese adjusted assault: 12

Allied adjusted defense: 45

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
2nd Raiding Regiment
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF
1st Raiding Regiment
1st Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
1st LH MG Regiment
2nd Armoured Brigade
20th LH Motor Regiment
2nd A/Car Regiment

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/21/2016 12:44:32 PM   
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Finally, the B-17's take off from Melbourne. It works pretty well.

Morning Air attack on Geelong , at 81,170

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16
B-17E Fortress x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 3 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 42

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/21/2016 12:48:02 PM   
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Fighter sweep over Adelaide. We have a bunch of broken planes and green pilots there so our guys are ordered to stay on the ground. Most likely the sweep is coming from the KB.

Morning Air attack on Adelaide , at 75,163

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 21,070 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 19070 feet

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/21/2016 12:53:05 PM   
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N&IC: JJ tries to add mines to Koumac.

Sub attack near Koumac at 113,155

Japanese Ships
CM Tokiwa, Torpedo hits 1
TB Tomozuru

Allied Ships
SS Plunger


One of our torps accidentally works. Naturally, the ones that hit carrier hulls DON'T work. The suns
comes up.
This is pretty much what will happen to any evac convoy.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Koumac at 113,155

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12
TBD-1 Devastator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CM Tokiwa, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
TB Tomozuru



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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/21/2016 12:55:11 PM   
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Pretty good day for the Allies.

--Tamworth holds
--Effective raid over Geelong.
--Jupiter kicks ass.

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I took the time to watch the replay. The sweep over Adelaide was from Geelong. It looks like KB is about 200 mi W of Adelaide...in other words headed toward Perth fast.

Also, JJ has landed at Vanikoro, which is the Southernmost of the Santa Cruz Is. A 0(0)port, 0(4)AF dot hex. This could be a seaplane base or they mean to construct an AF. The latter won't work because is only 12 hexes from Tanna, which will support B-25's.


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/21/2016 2:28:27 PM   
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