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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 12:30:21 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		PI: The staff had orders to draw down the planes at Malaybalay...but some dumbass forgot.

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Morning Air attack on Malaybalay , at 80,90

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 25,190 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 12:32:02 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Morning Air attack on Malaybalay , at 80,90

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 9

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 7 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 9


face palm

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Morning Air attack on Malaybalay , at 80,90

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 11
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 12 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 14 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed on ground
F-4 Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 18

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 12:37:28 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		I worked out a way to get P-40's from China to Clark/Bataan. If you divide the squadron you can fly out 8 at a time to a base in SE China with just enough supply for drop tanks...otherwise they get stuck. Its quite brilliant I tell you. Converted one of the two plane P-38E squadrons to P-39, which has a higher number so is obviosuly better.

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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 24,560 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 9

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
P-38E Lightning x 1
P-38G Lightning x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 2
P-40K Warhawk x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 12:38:19 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 25,190 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 21

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
P-38G Lightning x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 12:40:13 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		There....take that. JJ can't shut down both Clark and Bataan at the same time so the bases cover each other.

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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 19

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 1:17:18 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		We had my Dad's internment ceremony yesterday. USAF sent three airmen down from March AFB. Very moving flag folding ceremony and Taps. We went over to my sister's place afterward and everyone told stories. Very much needed. Great stories. Many I had never heard. Someone worked out my Dad had been to Washington 500 times in his career. He more than once got upgrades to first class and high end suites because he happened to have the same name as a famous cabinet secretary .

One time the White House called his suite looking for the cabinet dude and was alarmed that a woman answered...my mom. One time he was demonstrating an electronic bug direction finder that could detect the microwatt emanations from the tuning circuit of the RECEIVING device. The Secret Service was so impressed they sent a car to his hotel and invited him the the WH to demonstrate it and requisitioned the only prototype on the spot. Sale made. One time some RAF dudes and British subcontractors flew in to SoCal so they went fishing on my brother's boat out in the kelp beds...and they all got busted for not having fishing licenses. The company paid the fines.

One time he was in Europe for an international project and they were working with a German and Italian firm but they had some last minute technical issues and had to buff the proposal for a Monday morning presentation worth hundreds of millions. The Americans and Germans ordered in food, rolled up their sleeves and worked all weekend and the Italian engineers went out drinking and partying. Some other stuff I would have to kill you if I told you.

We worked out his kids and grandkids had over 100 student years at the same high school and he probably attended over 19,000 athletic events including a mixed-twins Mildred Morrow Elementary School tennis tournament with only two teams...and he kept the trophy...but had to hide because my brother did not want anyone to come to match.

After all these stories we started drinking. That was fun too.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 1:47:30 PM   
T Rav

 

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Status: offline 		Cap, you are up too early for a California boy.

I'm sorry for your loss, but it sounds like your father had a full life. The fact that his family came together with good stories is proof.

Respectfully,
T Rav

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 1:54:37 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 2:34:01 PM   
T Rav

 

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Status: offline 		As a Florida boy transplanted to Cali, I agree with the morning thing. Everyone else is still asleep.

I think the term is "Stealing a March," when you operate while the other side sleeps.

I like to do that too.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 3:15:08 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Yes, getting up early to achieve an advantage over the enemy is wise....but one must never surrender to the temptation of the "Early Bird Special". One must always uphold one's honor and dignity.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 3:18:38 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		After watching the replay, I can confirm the staff forgot to push the "cancel unload" button at Terapo. We lost one AK. Not so bad considering the loss of Vals and Zekes there.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 4:21:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

35th IR was saved..so that is good.

Obviously this happened because of the brilliance and daring of the Admiral in charge who did not let his staff near the operation...

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/16/2019 8:02:14 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Stalker Girl is going to see a band composed of members of a Christian rock band she sought solace with in her early teen years.

Now they have mostly come out as gay and do a combination of heavy metal and musical theater. We listened to their CD when we were in Maui. Fortunately the car was stolen. I have decided to stay home and try to install the new faucet again.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/17/2019 11:54:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Way to go, dumbass, whoever that was

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Morning Air attack on Malaybalay , at 80,90

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 9

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 7 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 9


face palm

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Morning Air attack on Malaybalay , at 80,90

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 11
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 12 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 14 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed on ground
F-4 Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 18


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Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 12 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 14 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed on ground
F-4 Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground


fourteen damaged Avengers? I bet the pilots threw a party

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/17/2019 12:57:02 PM   
T Rav

 

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Status: offline 		I'm not sure what that band would sound like, but I'm sure it is interesting. Faucets sound better though.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 12:49:52 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Lt "Sparks": <enters excitedly> SIR! Intercepts show with a high level of confidence that Cam Rahn Fortress is at Cam Rahn Bay!

FAM: Why, that's splendid, son! Smashing even. Next time Milo is in town Ill see if he has one of those native golf bags you've been pining after. Sparks, I don't think I am overstating this is the kind of information that could change the outcome of the war!

Lt "Sparks": Thanks you sir! Thank you very much!

FAM: You deserve it. Now, be sure to let us know anything else that comes up.

Lt "Sparks": Yes sir! <salutes and practically skips out of the bar>

Moana: Boss, where ELSE would the Cam Rahn Fortress be?

FAM: It's good for morale. Say, did I mention how fetching you look tonight?

Moana: Thank you boss, but have you forgotten the briefing from SouPac HR?

FAM: Bloody Puritans! How do they expect anyone to have fun during the war?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 12:51:57 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 12:54:40 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 12:59:04 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Ummmm..is the "1" model of the Corsair carrier capable...or does that start with the "1A"?

Historically, the USN had trouble bringing the the Corsair into action on the carriers due to the extra pilot training required.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 1:01:12 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 1:04:46 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Chairman:...thank you for that information. Mr. Minderbinder, have you any information on the contract extension?


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 2:39:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Ummmm..is the "1" model of the Corsair carrier capable...or does that start with the "1A"?

Historically, the USN had trouble bringing the the Corsair into action on the carriers due to the extra pilot training required.


Why don't you load up one of your carriers with it and find out?

Oh, I'm kidding. Don't. The F4U-1 is *not* carrier capable. Classic rookie mistake putting it on flattops. BTW, you can see this information by selecting your plane and ship database.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 2:45:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Ummmm..is the "1" model of the Corsair carrier capable...or does that start with the "1A"?

Historically, the USN had trouble bringing the the Corsair into action on the carriers due to the extra pilot training required.



Starts with the 1A.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 3:05:13 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Yes, that's what I thought. Fortunately, due to some fortuitous planning, the USN now has more carrier fighter squadrons than they have CV decks so the Corsair 1 can grace a USN Navy or Marine squadron for flying off dirt.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 3:15:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

*********Ad hoc barroom, Customs House, Townsville********


Lt "Sparks": <enters excitedly> SIR! Intercepts show with a high level of confidence that Cam Rahn Fortress is at Cam Rahn Bay!

FAM: Why, that's splendid, son! Smashing even. Next time Milo is in town Ill see if he has one of those native golf bags you've been pining after. Sparks, I don't think I am overstating this is the kind of information that could change the outcome of the war!

Lt "Sparks": Thanks you sir! Thank you very much!

FAM: You deserve it. Now, be sure to let us know anything else that comes up.

Lt "Sparks": Yes sir! <salutes and practically skips out of the bar>

Moana: Boss, where ELSE would the Cam Rahn Fortress be?

FAM: It's good for morale. Say, did I mention how fetching you look tonight?

Moana: Thank you boss, but have you forgotten the briefing from SouPac HR?

FAM: Bloody Puritans! How do they expect anyone to have fun during the war?

Let us know (in detail) if you find a way to boost both Moana's morale and yours. Wacky Jungle Tobacci doesn't count!

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 6:51:07 PM   
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And why is the US Army still buying the P-39 in late '42?

Because the new model P-39 isn't available until mid-'43.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 7:46:03 PM   
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And why is the US Army still buying the P-39 in late '42?

Because the new model P-39 isn't available until mid-'43.


Wouldn't the new and improved P-39 be the P-40? Isn't that available now?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/18/2019 9:40:51 PM   
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And why is the US Army still buying the P-39 in late '42?

Because the new model P-39 isn't available until mid-'43.


Wouldn't the new and improved P-39 be the P-40? Isn't that available now?

You must've missed the "new math" when you were a kid!

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/19/2019 2:37:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

And why is the US Army still buying the P-39 in late '42?

Because the new model P-39 isn't available until mid-'43.


Wouldn't the new and improved P-39 be the P-40? Isn't that available now?

It is so much better that they call it the P-400! A giant leap in technol- ... ummm .... profit!

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/19/2019 4:53:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		P-40 was already taken so the export version of the P-39 was called P-400 as it was actually not an improved version of the basic P-39 but an export version of the P-39. The P-400 substituted the 37 MM nose cannon for 20 MM one and 30 cal machine guns for .303 MGs are requested by the British who order 675 of the P-400 but only used 80 in combat and decide because of the lack of the Turbo supercharger the performance was sub -par and passed 200 of them to the Russians via Lend-Lease and returned 250 back to the US, who used them in combat.

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