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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 12:48:17 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Still, I do confess a certain oriental efficiency here. Singapore falls on Dec 22 and Hong Kong even before that.

3 full divisions at Singers with 2 tank regiments, 2 Army HQ and a bunch of heavy arty.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 2:43:09 PM   
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Java: The Royal Dutch Air Force does pretty much everything right..attack packets likely to encounter enemy CAP have escorts..recon is good...nice new paint jobs on the Uglofortreses....impressive..except for the detail of actually hitting anything.

The only birds we have in the area that do real damage are the FAA torpedo bombers..and most of them were blown up already. JJ jave a foothold on Java-jima and they brought lots of those short guys with the funny leggings.

Ground combat at Kalidjati (50,99)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 16604 troops, 102 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 691

Defending force 98 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 177

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 177 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kalidjati !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
2nd Tank Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
56th Engineer Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
II/124th Infantry Battalion
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
56th Field Artillery Regiment
1st Base Force

Defending units:
VkA-3 Sup Afd
VkA-4 Sup Afd

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 2:46:02 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Rabaul: The Marines just flown in to Rabaul do real damage. Two nice targets.
It was nice of them to bring 1000 lb bombs too!

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kavieng at 106,122

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2U-3 Vindicator x 14

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AMC Kongo Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Mutsuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
11 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AMC Kongo Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Mutsuki

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 2:49:15 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		39th and 59th Aus Inf Bn are landing at Rabaul. Now we have to disrupt the WJD's ashore with naval bombardment and air bombardment, attack...kill them...then get everyone out before the KB shows up.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 2:53:41 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 3:00:47 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 3:08:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mundy

A good lesson on why the real Japanese made their conquests under air cover, whether from land or KB.


Yes. You could say this is an unintended consequence of the attack on Manila on Dec 7. Once we identified all 6 CV's operating in the DEI, the USN and RAN were granted a window of operational freedom.

Two full, crack SNLF units would be big prize but we can't stay too long or we will be the prize.

This also opens and opportunity to reinforce PM and Noumea. Still thinking about that. Both spots can be traps for the Allies.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 3:58:59 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		OK, I have a question (strictly hypothetical, of course):

..Suppose an Allied carrier is on a secret mission

..Let us further suppose that one of the TBD's spies a periscope

..Do the Wee Jap Dobbers get an intel message about being spotted by the Allied TBD?




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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 4:03:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Forces at Rabaul. Right off, it doesn't seem we have enough to attack but perhaps after some further disruption on the LYB's?

Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2229 troops, 14 guns, 174 vehicles, Assault Value = 85

Defending force 4066 troops, 38 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 121

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Lark Force
2/1st Ind Coy
39th Australian Bn /1
53rd Australian Bn /1
B Coy/NG Rifles
Rabaul Base Force
Del Monte AAF Base Force /3

Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
2nd Indpt SNLF Coy

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 4:13:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

OK, I have a question (strictly hypothetical, of course):

..Suppose an Allied carrier is on a secret mission

..Let us further suppose that one of the TBD's spies a periscope

..Do the Wee Jap Dobbers get an intel message about being spotted by the Allied TBD?






I believe in the OPS report it may say if the plane was spotted by an enemy TF.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 4:20:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

OK, I have a question (strictly hypothetical, of course):

..Suppose an Allied carrier is on a secret mission

..Let us further suppose that one of the TBD's spies a periscope

..Do the Wee Jap Dobbers get an intel message about being spotted by the Allied TBD?






I believe in the OPS report it may say if the plane was spotted by an enemy TF.


I've seen innumerable reports where a naval vessel sights an aircraft overhead and reports they have been spotted but I have never seen an aircraft report that THEY have been spotted.

I'm also not sure I have seen a sub report an air contact although it would be quite easy if they were running on the surface or had air search radar (not in 1941, of course).

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 4:28:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Yes. You could say this is an unintended consequence of the attack on Manila on Dec 7. Once we identified all 6 CV's operating in the DEI, the USN and RAN were granted a window of operational freedom.

Two full, crack SNLF units would be big prize but we can't stay too long or we will be the prize.

This also opens and opportunity to reinforce PM and Noumea. Still thinking about that. Both spots can be traps for the Allies.


Yeah, I had that same window in my game, with KB hanging out at the PI and Singapore for an extended time.

Years of having the "Sir Robin" mentality beaten into me here made me fail to see what could have been.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 4:31:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

OK, I have a question (strictly hypothetical, of course):

..Suppose an Allied carrier is on a secret mission

..Let us further suppose that one of the TBD's spies a periscope

..Do the Wee Jap Dobbers get an intel message about being spotted by the Allied TBD?





Sometimes. Think FOW.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 4:33:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

OK, I have a question (strictly hypothetical, of course):

..Suppose an Allied carrier is on a secret mission

..Let us further suppose that one of the TBD's spies a periscope

..Do the Wee Jap Dobbers get an intel message about being spotted by the Allied TBD?





Sometimes. Think FOW.


No, you don't understand. I wanted a DEFINITE answer.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 4:35:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK. It is definitely not an Intel message. It will appear in either the Combat Events Report or the Operations Report.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 5:41:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs

OK. It is definitely not an Intel message. It will appear in either the Combat Events Report or the Operations Report.


Well, there you have it!

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 7:18:01 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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FAM: What about these wild mushrooms? Are they good?

Waiter: Everyone seems to rave about them, sir.

FAM: Hmmmm? <Glances at intel report>

quote:

PBY-5 Catalina sighting report: 5 Japanese ships at 165,111 near Johnston Island, speed 17, Moving Southwest


Hmmmmm. Are these the same mushrooms they have been serving at Ford Island NAS?

Waiter: Not sure, sir. We get ours from an Indian supplier, nice fellow, long hair.

FAM: Indian Indian from India or the other kind?

Waiter: Oh, the other kind, Navajo, I think.

FAM:Ah, let me have the carpaccio please.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 7:20:34 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/27/2015 7:32:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Hai! No-ah ordah mushrooms from Indigenous pahson name "Running colors".


You have an odd accent, sir. Are you from LA as well?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 4:38:26 PM   
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With all this effort I was thinking...do salmon ever swim up 400 miles of river, jump up 4 fish ladders, evade 400 bears, 120,000 fisherman and 1000 eagles until their flesh is falling off and their fins are worn to nubs and all they want to do is you know what and then die...and finally, they reach a shallow, gravel-bedded stream somewhere in the Sierra Nevada with crystal clear snow-melt, perfect oxygenation, cover from predators, shade trees...and then.....

"Oh crap! I don't remember any aspens. And the big stump, where's the big stump? Hell, this is all wrong! I made a wrong turn somewhere!"

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 4:46:41 PM   
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Rabaul: IJN disappears. USMC pilots in obsolete dive bombers with way to many windows scare them away. No attack by land today.

Sorong: The Dutch has 3 seaplanes and two seaplane tenders at Sorong..but somehow..half of the IJN seems to be standing offshore when the sun comes up. Mouseover shows no less than 7 BB's

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 4:48:01 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 5:03:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Aesthetically, it's not horrible, especially with the snazzy baby blue paint job. Still looks like a flying greenhouse. Engine seems kind of wimpy. Not even clsoe to being the most unattractive carrier aircraft.


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 5:16:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Balikpapan: B-17's from Soerabaja get 2 refinery hits on Balikpapan.

Java-jima: More Dutch pilots get blown up trying to hit LYB shipping near Java-jima.

Manado: Still in Dutch hands. The WJD's ashore are inadequate to take the place.

PI: <crickets chirping>

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 5:16:58 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 5:34:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Not even clsoe to being the most unattractive carrier aircraft.




Competition time!

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 5:59:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Not even clsoe to being the most unattractive carrier aircraft.




Competition time!



Yes, splendid idea.

Here is a candidate:



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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 6:06:05 PM   
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It's a trap!

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 6:11:49 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 1/28/2015 6:12:35 PM   
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