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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/1/2020 6:01:19 PM   
rtrapasso


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TMI!


Hey - in what other AAR can you get information about flaming hogs and non-scrotal animals?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/1/2020 6:04:04 PM   
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TMI!


Hey - in what other AAR can you get information about flaming hogs and non-scrotal animals?

This reminds me of when I got poison ivy on my legs and it spread upwards...

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/1/2020 6:07:10 PM   
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TMI!


Hey - in what other AAR can you get information about flaming hogs and non-scrotal animals?

This reminds me of when I got poison ivy on my legs and it spread upwards...

Probably made you envy the primary (or even secondary) testicond mammals.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/2/2020 2:14:12 AM   
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Eelephants can't be castrated because they are considered a primary testicond species.
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They are non-scrotal, true, but doesn't mean they can't be "fixed"...

Hey Bob!

I've done some searching for the difference between primary and secondary testicond. No source (unless I pony up and buy a textbook) directly says, but based on these results, which also do not explicitly say, I am inferring the difference is in evolution. So "primary" meaning the species evolved that way all through their ancestry; "secondary" meaning the species ancestry included species with a scrotum but that evolved away.

Did I get that right? Is that what is meant by primary versus secondary in this instance?

Cool sperm: why some placental mammals have a scrotum

The evolutionary history of testicular externalization and the origin of the scrotum

Certainly not my field of expertise, but from what I read, that seems to be correct...


Their testes are near their kidneys. No elephant scrotum means no large, natural elephant leather
bags either.

Zorch, maybe I should upload a diagram for you . . .

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/2/2020 2:45:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Eelephants can't be castrated because they are considered a primary testicond species.
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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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They are non-scrotal, true, but doesn't mean they can't be "fixed"...

Hey Bob!

I've done some searching for the difference between primary and secondary testicond. No source (unless I pony up and buy a textbook) directly says, but based on these results, which also do not explicitly say, I am inferring the difference is in evolution. So "primary" meaning the species evolved that way all through their ancestry; "secondary" meaning the species ancestry included species with a scrotum but that evolved away.

Did I get that right? Is that what is meant by primary versus secondary in this instance?

Cool sperm: why some placental mammals have a scrotum

The evolutionary history of testicular externalization and the origin of the scrotum

Certainly not my field of expertise, but from what I read, that seems to be correct...


Their testes are near their kidneys. No elephant scrotum means no large, natural elephant leather
bags either.

Zorch, maybe I should upload a diagram for you . . .

You have a fixation on graphical displays.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/2/2020 3:41:04 AM   
RangerJoe


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Eelephants can't be castrated because they are considered a primary testicond species.
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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

...









They are non-scrotal, true, but doesn't mean they can't be "fixed"...

Hey Bob!

I've done some searching for the difference between primary and secondary testicond. No source (unless I pony up and buy a textbook) directly says, but based on these results, which also do not explicitly say, I am inferring the difference is in evolution. So "primary" meaning the species evolved that way all through their ancestry; "secondary" meaning the species ancestry included species with a scrotum but that evolved away.

Did I get that right? Is that what is meant by primary versus secondary in this instance?

Cool sperm: why some placental mammals have a scrotum

The evolutionary history of testicular externalization and the origin of the scrotum

Certainly not my field of expertise, but from what I read, that seems to be correct...


Their testes are near their kidneys. No elephant scrotum means no large, natural elephant leather
bags either.

Zorch, maybe I should upload a diagram for you . . .

You have a fixation on graphical displays.


A picture tells a thousand words.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/2/2020 7:23:26 AM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/2/2020 8:57:17 AM   
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And once again Cap's AAR running wild. As so often in the past...

We're not just proud of our ability to go off-topic; we're smug about it.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/2/2020 10:28:36 AM   
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And once again Cap's AAR running wild. As so often in the past...

We're not just proud of our ability to go off-topic; we're smug about it.


How about someone posting a picture of a tree and getting six pages of commentary, driving his opponent crazy thinking that a major operation was being planned?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/2/2020 1:50:11 PM   
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How about someone posting a picture of a tree and getting six pages of commentary, driving his opponent crazy thinking that a major operation was being planned?


PROVISIONAL ORDERS: OPERATION TESTICOND
The First and Second Carthaginian Brigades shall advance in a enveloping maneuver on Babar. They will be supported by the Provisional Pachyderm Battalions under Col. H. Lecter, Sr. ....

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/2/2020 2:26:20 PM   
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How about someone posting a picture of a tree and getting six pages of commentary, driving his opponent crazy thinking that a major operation was being planned?


PROVISIONAL ORDERS: OPERATION TESTICOND
The First and Second Carthaginian Brigades shall advance in a enveloping maneuver on Babar. They will be supported by the Provisional Pachyderm Battalions under Col. H. Lecter, Sr. ....


Private Curly will lay banana peels in front of the enemy position, while Private Moe will harass the enemy skirmishers by poking them in the eye...

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/2/2020 6:56:57 PM   
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How about someone posting a picture of a tree and getting six pages of commentary, driving his opponent crazy thinking that a major operation was being planned?


PROVISIONAL ORDERS: OPERATION TESTICOND
The First and Second Carthaginian Brigades shall advance in a enveloping maneuver on Babar. They will be supported by the Provisional Pachyderm Battalions under Col. H. Lecter, Sr. ....


On taking Babar, Col. Lecter will host a dinner featuring fava beans and a nice Chianti ... the entrée TBA.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:36:16 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Jeez. i go to Maui and then Guatemala and the lunatics run the asylum.

This just in! Actual Mayans are incredibly short.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:38:07 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:41:59 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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PI: Japs landing at Batan Is.

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Pre-Invasion action off Batan Island (85,70)

17 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Kuri
SC Ch 36
xAK Hoeisan Maru

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

DD Kuri firing at 4th Marine Regiment

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:43:28 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Amphibious Assault at Batan Island (85,70)

TF 33 troops unloading over beach at Batan Island, 85,70

Japanese ground losses:
167 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

17 troops of a SNLF Inf Squad 43 accidentally lost during unload of 47th Nav Gd

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:44:29 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Morning Air attack on Batan Island , at 85,70

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 24,560 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 42

No Japanese losses

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:45:27 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 25,190 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 37

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
37 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick sweeping at 21190 feet

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:46:44 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 16
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 26
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 7 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 4 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 8 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:47:56 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Morning Air attack on 4th Marine Raider Battalion, at 109,128 (Buka)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:50:50 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Ground combat at Batan Island (85,70)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1246 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Defending force 529 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
670 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
47th Nav Gd /1

Defending units:
4th Marine Rgt /1

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:52:17 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/4/2020 11:59:13 PM   
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Jeez. i go to Maui and then Guatemala and the lunatics run the asylum.

This just in! Actual Mayans are incredibly short.


The cows party until the farmer comes home.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/5/2020 1:02:08 AM   
Zorch

 

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Wow...that is a bloody attack. Banzai, baby!

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Ground combat at Batan Island (85,70)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1246 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Defending force 529 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
670 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
47th Nav Gd /1

Defending units:
4th Marine Rgt /1


670 to 5? Is that a record?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/5/2020 2:31:59 AM   
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670 to 5? Is that a record?


I think maybe some of the USMC were injured by all the hot brass ejecting into their positions.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/5/2020 6:02:03 AM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/5/2020 11:14:05 AM   
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670 to 5? Is that a record?


I think maybe some of the USMC were injured by all the hot brass ejecting into their positions.






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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/10/2020 2:24:27 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Sent in Col. Harry B Liversedge to run things on Batan Is. It seems he is well recommended. No counterattack at Batan because the Japs are dead to the man or they got back on the war canoes.




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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/10/2020 2:31:01 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Armor and infantry at Clark. The locals are doing the line infantry work. Filipino units up to mid 50's to 60 on experience.





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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 2/10/2020 2:38:56 PM   
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