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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/14/2015 12:19:38 AM   
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As with the 056 Corvettes... I totally lost count of how many dozen are entering service each year. PLAN is getting really well funded these days...

20+ of them afloat just within 3 years. And also, 056/A may serve as 'shipyard survivors', when Chinese economic slows is sustaining, or other newer warships is not mature enough to mass produce after the finished batch of current generations.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/14/2015 3:48:01 PM   
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Didn't spot any mention of the Nudol Russian system so thought I'd add:

Recent test was done.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-conducts-successful-flight-test-of-anti-satellite-missile/
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1137442.html

Didn't see it in the database, just spotted the Gazelle.



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/14/2015 4:18:22 PM   
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interview with CEO of Zelenodolsk shipyard
http://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/147574/ in russian

- there will be only 9 Buyan-M ,project 21361, ships (3 Caspian,6 Black Sea)
- from import engines to Chinese and Russian ,import replacement programm 5 Buyan will have MTU ,4 Buyan-M Chinese engines , project 22160 will have Russian engine
- Buyan replasment ,Project 22800 "Karakurt" ,already in construction at "Pella" shipyard ,Zelenodolsk also want to built this project ,project intended to be buid by multiple shipyards
For people who dont understand what 22800 is:

800 t
60m long
9m wide
30kt speed
2500nm range
76 or 57 mm gun
8 UKSK cells
Pantsir-M module with underdeck magazine
Mineral-M radar
MR-352 radar
2x TK-25 ELINT
2x PK-12
Diesel engine
better seaworthiness than Buyan-M

- Vietnam want third pair of project 1166 "Gepard" , this time with 8 UKSK cells instead of Kh-35


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/14/2015 7:58:44 PM   
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Can you make our ship go?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-navys-362-million-ship-192750511.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/16/2015 10:45:25 AM   
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Why There's A NASA Jet At A Massive Military Complex In Africa

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/17/2015 1:32:57 AM   
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A rather late and underrated news about Chinese Advanced Datalink and Communication system. CASC announced their new air-air/air-land datalink modules named LINK-TDD-S at 7th December as a separate product. It claimed be to the equivant of US's TTNT datalink by Chinese medias, which is used for F-35s.

It got over 300KM communication range, 2 Mbps of maximum bandwidth, and can apply numerous networks and users in a single system. It also support encryption, and ECM resistant.

Actual applications is unknown, but it is clearly intended for an upgrade to military in this picture:





http://www.513bj.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?P_Id=130905031155eca158 (product detail in Simplified Chinese)
http://www.dingsheng.com/portal.php?mod=view&aid=7239 (Simplified Chinese)

No English media source yet.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/17/2015 10:24:35 AM   
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Airbus Helicopters delivers the first Swedish NH90 for Anti-Submarine Warfare

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Today, Airbus Helicopters delivered the first Swedish NH90 in full anti-submarine warfare (ASW) configuration to the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration FMV (Försvarets Materielverk). The fully-qualified rotorcraft has an entirely customized mission system including underwater sonar, tactical radar and high cabin for improved interior space.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3371

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/17/2015 4:48:24 PM   
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SECDEF Carter ordered many changes to FY17-20 Navy procurement. In a nutshell, LCS production will be cut to 1/year until 2020, resulting in 40 total LCS/FF. The savings will be applied to a wide variety of Navy platforms and ammunition programs including additional JSF, Hornets, SM-6, AIM-120D, Virginia Payload Module, and other sensor and weapon upgrades.

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/naval/2015/12/16/littoral-combat-ship-lcs-navy-budget-fighter-super-hornet-joint-strike-fighter-lockheed-martin-fincantieri-austal/77452734/
http://news.usni.org/2015/12/17/document-budget-directive-letter-from-secdef-carter-to-secnav-mabus

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/17/2015 11:55:51 PM   
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With recent topic about Russian SAM ranging quite a while, please also do not forget what US is doing the same thing as Russian suffered (and pre-cautious for NATO's case). New SM-3 has been set in Romania. It is designed for ABM, yet that is nothing to do with anti-IS or counter Iranian missiles threat with it:

http://www.defenseone.com/management/2015/12/romania-us-wraps-construction-anti-missile-battery/124396/?oref=DefenseOneFB

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/18/2015 12:59:28 AM   
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Aegis Ashore is quite an interesting system. Something like this is what I'd expect China to install on the artificial islands sooner or later, as military pressure mounts against them.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/18/2015 3:50:27 AM   
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Aegis Ashore is quite an interesting system. Something like this is what I'd expect China to install on the artificial islands sooner or later, as military pressure mounts against them.

But an island and sea settlement has no natural obstacle to protect with. Worse, deploying an anti-missile radar and battery require big and steady work of ammunition and electric supplies at sea. Even with fortification and anti-ship defenses, the hostile submarine will make short work of them easier with much closer range, than playing course-changing missiles technique like a scenario against S-400 in Damascus.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/18/2015 8:13:49 AM   
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Just wow!
(On the closeup shot, she already shows some rust spots however... not that there's anything wrong with it, even Zumwalt will get rust in a couple month... but freshly painted vessels just look nicer IMO)

Pictures: First Operational Deployment for French Navy's Newest Frigate Aquitaine (FREMM)

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The latest and most modern addition to the French Navy (Marine Nationale) fleet, the Aquitaine Frigate (head of the class and first FREMM frigate built by DCNS), set sailed yesterday to join the Charles de Gaulle Carrier Strike Group (CSG) in the Persian Gulf. This first operational deployment happens just two weeks after the French Navy officially declared the vessel to be in "Active Duty".

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3374

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/18/2015 11:58:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dysta


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

Aegis Ashore is quite an interesting system. Something like this is what I'd expect China to install on the artificial islands sooner or later, as military pressure mounts against them.

But an island and sea settlement has no natural obstacle to protect with. Worse, deploying an anti-missile radar and battery require big and steady work of ammunition and electric supplies at sea. Even with fortification and anti-ship defenses, the hostile submarine will make short work of them easier with much closer range, than playing course-changing missiles technique like a scenario against S-400 in Damascus.


For air-defense, natural obstacles serve the attacker more than the defender. As you can see from the S-400 example posted in the other thread, the mountain-ridge was used as concealment for waypoint capable cruise missiles to get close the target without being detected. Fortified islands are arguably the best bases for these systems, as they basically have 360° unobstructed field of view. And with radar-blimps and active radar missiles, they will even have OTH targeting capability.

Munitions wise, I'd say a fortified island base is better than a surface combattants, as there are no weight restrictions and hence you can store an entire arsenal of spare missiles in fortified bunkers and have the heavy duty machines/cranes to reload the VLS launchers. Energy would be the same. What prevents one to install one or two gas-turbines on those islands? Sure, fuel is an issue, but so would it be for surface combattants. The PLAN has specifically introduced the Type 904-class of General Stores supply ship to resupply the island garissons. Energy requirements would be less than that of a AAW destroyer, as the energy would only be needed to powering the radars and combat systems, not for propulsion as well. So, when a 128 VLS-celled 12.000 tons Type 055 needs four QC-280 gas turbines with 28MW each, an artificial island with twice the number of the VLS cells and the same Type 346A radars would only need one or two QC-280 - as the island does not need any energy for sailing at 30+ knots, but only for powering the radars!

China is also planning to use wave-farms for powering the artificial island's radar stations and other installations:

http://www.scmp.com/tech/science-research/article/1884420/harnessing-ocean-chinas-military-looks-wave-farms-power-radar

So, in the end it plays no role of whether China would put something like Aegis ashore or a traditional SAM-unit or a Fighter Regiment on these islands. The requirements in logistics and the dangers of enemy attacks are all the same.


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/18/2015 11:36:39 PM   
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Egypt Recieves Type 209/1400 Sub from Germany. http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/173150/Egypt/Politics-/Egyptian-naval-commander-receives-Type-submarine-f.aspx

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/19/2015 2:37:49 PM   
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Fincantieri Launched the Sixh FREMM Frigate “Luigi Rizzo” for the Italian Navy

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“Luigi Rizzo” is the sixth FREMM unit which Fincantieri builds and delivers to the Italian Navy. It is the second FREMM in GP "General Purpose" configuration. Picture: Fincantieri

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3380

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/19/2015 6:10:15 PM   
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Australia chooses the Pilatus PC-21 A/C. http://www.indiastrategic.in/topstories4384_Australian_Defence_Force_Selects_Pilatus_PC-21.htm

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/20/2015 1:27:56 AM   
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/12010438/Britain-calls-in-French-to-hunt-Russian-sub-lurking-off-Scotland.html

amusing ,
especially if know that they hunt for good old project 671RTMK


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ORIGINAL: mviniegra85

There're only 2 671RTM boats - Obininsk and Daniil Moskovskiy - in service right now with Russia's Northern Fleet.

Are you sure it's a Victor III?, not Pantera or Nizhny Novgorod?

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ORIGINAL: Triode

Pantera literally chained to Northern fleet SSBN , so long walk is not for her until more subs arrive from repair and modernization
Nizhny Novgorod conduct torpedo exercise 29.09 in Barents Sea so it is unlikely

only good option is 671RTMK , especially "Obninsk"




"Obninsk" returned from sea
http://vk.com/club_podvodnik?w=wall-546461_10479 in russian

it is good to be right

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/21/2015 9:39:59 AM   
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Heads to scenario designers... And please God make it happen

French Navy Rafale M Fighters May Conduct Combat Missions From a US Navy CVN in 2017

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French Navy (Marine Nationale) Rafale M carrier-based multirole fighters may conduct combat missions against the Islamic State (IS) in Iraq and Syria from a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier as soon as January 2017. The information comes from French TV channel TF1. According to TF1 this subject was discussed between US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter and French Navy Rear Adm. Rene-Jean Crignola, Commander Task Force (CTF) 50.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3384

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/21/2015 11:52:08 AM   
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A few days ago, there was a report that a J-16 Strike-Flanker Electronic Attack variant has completed its maiden flight, giving China her own equivalent to the EA-18G Growler on a Flanker-platform. And yes, the engines are domestic WS-10s, giving further credibility in the maturity of the Chinese engine.

Now, the first photos have been leaked, showing a J-16 in yellow primer with significant modifications; such as AN/ALQ-218 Tactical Jamming System Receiver-styled built-in wingtip-pods just like on the EA-18G, as well as different EW dielectric panels and no gun (again, like the EA-18G)! It's designation has been rumored to be JD-16 (J = "Jian/Fighter", D = "Dian/Electronic Attack"), in lieu with the HD-5, which was the EW variant of the H-5 Beagle bomber.




^The wing-tip jamming receiver compared with the AN/ALQ-218 TJSR on the Growler



^Differences between the JD-16 and the standard J-16. The Shorter radome also indicates that it might be equipped with the same AESA like the new J-11D.



Another evidence that Chinese internet rumors prove to be 80% accurate.

In my opinion, the JD-16 might be the single most important asset outside J-20 project for the PLAAF to have, as stand-in/escort offensive jamming was always a weakness for them. Having a EA-18G equivalent fighter for the ground-based PLAAF also opens the possibility for the carier-based J-15s of the PLANAF to have a similiar variant in the future.
Anyway, in my CMANO scenarios, a Chinese Growler equivalent was always something I missed when simulating air-strikes against heavily defended ground and naval targets...

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/21/2015 2:09:49 PM   
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Now, the latest rumor shortly following the JD-16 reveal has it, that the J-15 and J-15S are also expecting a dedicated EW variant too. These CGs have been reposted as well, showing a J-15 with Jamming pods (with no ELINT on wingtips?):




Anyway, the source says that maiden flight of this variant will follow shortly. As one can see in the 2nd CG, the J-15 EW will also have no IRST and likely no gun, making it a EA-18G-like EW plane as well.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/22/2015 8:40:23 AM   
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David's Sling Weapon System • Joint US-Israel Test (DST-4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0rWN6o4gNM&index=4&list=PLA3FBEFD85C0CA310

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/22/2015 3:34:58 PM   
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http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-tests-new-icbm-from-railroad-car/

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China Tests New ICBM from Railroad Car
Rail-mobile launcher used in DF-41 ejection test


Besides the all-terrain TEL, a train-based variant of the DF-41 was tested.


So, they call it a "land nuclear submarine"


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/23/2015 1:04:59 AM   
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http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-tests-new-icbm-from-railroad-car/

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China Tests New ICBM from Railroad Car
Rail-mobile launcher used in DF-41 ejection test


Besides the all-terrain TEL, a train-based variant of the DF-41 was tested.


So, they call it a "land nuclear submarine"



Still a vague weapon platform, train or TEL. And besides, none had even see the distinct view of missile itself. That is why DB3000 doesn't have it.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/23/2015 3:44:34 PM   
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This is the definition of "MISS", according to CMANO's realism:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaKJhIZUzeg

A driver had a narrow escape and showed impressive calmness under pressure, when he dodged an incoming TOW missile. The person behind the wheel, waited patiently for the rocket to approach, before moving the vehicle out of the way… and to safety - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/703w




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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/23/2015 9:25:47 PM   
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project 22350 "Admiral Gorshkov" fire 91RT ASW missile/torpedo from UKSK on trials

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/24/2015 1:11:11 AM   
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Jane's picked it up.

http://www.janes.com/article/56855/possible-j-16-ew-variant-makes-its-first-flight

Possible J-16 EW variant makes its first flight

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/24/2015 1:11:49 AM   
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also not exactly defense news , but ...

"The intention to improve relations with the movement "Taliban" has publicly stated by the special representative of the Russian President and the Director of department in Russian Foreign Ministry Zamir Kabulov. According to him, the interests of Russia and the "Taliban" against "Islamic state" are the same. So somehow stimulate this interest is not particularly necessary. According Kabulov talks with the Taliban on this matter through diplomatic channels, are already underway. The diplomat did not rule out the supply of weapons to the Taliban, but on a commercial basis, and very carefully. However, he ruled out any possibility of a military operation in Afghanistan, similar to Syria."

"The movement" Taliban "led by Mullah Mansoor, who is still alive, is opposed to the" Islamic state "and has no plans to draw its influence beyond Central Asia. Therefore, they suit us. We should work together. It's about time ! This is the principle: the enemies of our enemies - our friends, "- said the director of the Center for the study of FAN in the Middle East and Central Asia Semen Bagdasarov."

http://riafan.ru/492017-neozhidannoe-partnerstvo-u-rossii-poyavilsya-drug-talib in russian

We live in interesting time, isn't it?



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/24/2015 2:34:55 AM   
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No confirmation of this interesting deal yet, but Ukraine seems they could use their engine production for China's profit. Looks like L-15 (which is assumed as The copy of Yak-130, but there are many fundamental differences, which I don't waste my breathe to explain here) will make good use for Ukraine Air Force if the agreement is is real:

http://www.jamestown.org/programs/edm/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=44900&cHash=a2f69342a23cf95e40ec9ebc668d6299#.VntkTxV94Rk

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/24/2015 4:51:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dysta

No confirmation of this interesting deal yet, but Ukraine seems they could use their engine production for China's profit. Looks like L-15 (which is assumed as The copy of Yak-130, but there are many fundamental differences, which I don't waste my breathe to explain here) will make good use for Ukraine Air Force if the agreement is is real:

http://www.jamestown.org/programs/edm/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=44900&cHash=a2f69342a23cf95e40ec9ebc668d6299#.VntkTxV94Rk



Man, I can see that pissing off Russia (and ironically enough, the USA as well perhaps) big time.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 12/24/2015 8:37:41 AM   
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Man, I can see that pissing off Russia (and ironically enough, the USA as well perhaps) big time.

The real question is, are they have advance fighter jets that need L-15 to train their pilots?

Don't even start the answer with 'they use it as cheaper attackers/fighters against rebels/pro-Russian militants'. L-15 is far too small to be combat-effective war birds, and their Su-27 fleets have no further supply from the tension against Russia. Unless Ukraine will soon get some new fighters, the need for trainers will be pointless.

That's why I am still waiting for its official announcement or relative picture of the joint productions.

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