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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/17/2016 2:46:34 PM   
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I kinda get that, considering the Abram with JP8 fuel and obvious exposure of ammo compartment, catching military machines on fire is already becomes typical in modern warfare. Moreover the turbine-powered ships; It can combust diesel, but sometimes they use kerosene and biofuel for the sake of versatility during the resupply, and these things are dangerously hot if being lit.

But then I think again, most of the losses are from explosives. Fuel-air explosion is not only a military hype, but also a hidden nightmare from several missiles, and is happening too.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/18/2016 12:59:00 AM   
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Old news, but interesting that there seems to be some stats for the new Yu-11 light weight torpedo on Wikipedia, based on Jane's and leaks on the Chinese internet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-7_torpedo

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Yu-11[edit]
Yu-11 is the follow on of Yu-7 powered by the same Otto fuel II and developed by the same 705th Institute.[2] Development first begun in 2002 and the torpedo finally entered service more than a decade later in 2015,[3] with its existence revealed by CCTV-7 in the same year when the TV station ran a footage of Chinese naval war games in July 2015, showing a new light weight torpedo (LWT) launched from a surface warship.[2] The new Chinese LWT is obviously longer than its predecessor Yu-7 and many Chinese military enthusiasts have postulated that the extended section houses additional fuel to increase the speed and range, but some western analysts such as Jane's Information Group have also postulated that the extended section might house homing and data processing subsystems.[4]

The most significant improvement of Yu-11 over its predecessor Yu-7 is in the propulsion system, with steam generated propels the torpedo in a closed Rankine cycle,[2] thus enabling Yu-11 to have greater operating depth, rumored to be over six hundred meters. The contra-rotating propellers of Yu-7 is replaced by a pump-jet,[2][4] making China the fourth nation in the world to master the technology of adopting pump-jet for torpedoes.[2] Another benefit of adopting pump-jet is the significant reduction of noise radiated by the torpedo, thus greatly increasing the difficulty to detect the approaching torpedo.[4] Specification:[2]

Speed: 50 kt max
Range: 11 km @ 50 kt, 30 km @ 26 kt
Diameter: 324 mm


Based on the photos that I've posted back in post #156, it seems like the Yu-11 is at least confirmed to be deployed on the newer Chinese surface combattants, such as the 054A FFG:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3913967

But presumably, the ASW helos and MPAs will all receive a "K" ("Kong" = "Air-dropped") variant as well, since they are still the mainstay ASW assets of the PLAN who are expected to use any LWTs in combat.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/18/2016 9:54:29 AM   
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Surface Navy 2016.
My first time there, quite an interesting show.

Picture Gallery: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3420
News: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/naval-exhibitions/sna-2016-show-daily-news.html


SNA 2016: Kongsberg Showcasing LCS, DDG 51 and LPD 17 Fitted With Naval Strike Missile

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At the Surface Navy Association's (SNA) National Symposium currently held near Washington DC, Norwegian company Kongsberg is showcasing the Freedom and Independence variant Littoral Combat Ships (LCS), an Arleigh Burke class Destroyer (DDG 51) and a San Antonio class Landing Platform Dock (LPD 17) each fitted with eight Naval Strike Missiles (NSM).
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"Kongsberg is showing what the distributed lethality concept could look like on a number of U.S. Navy vessels" Hans Kongelf, Vice President of Missile Systems at Kongsberg, told us during SNA 2016.

The distributed lethality concept was introduced (and is being advocated) by Vice Admiral Thomas Rowden, the Commander of the U.S. Navy's surface forces. It can be summarized by fitting more weapons on more vessels in order to "deceive the enemy, target the enemy, and destroy the enemy".

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3453

SNA 2016: Lockheed Martin Announces Top Side Configuration for Surface Launched LRASM

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At the Surface Navy Association's (SNA) National Symposium currently held near Washington DC, Navy Recognition learned that Lockheed Martin is working on a "top side" (deck mounted) configuration for its Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM) in addition to the vertically launched (from Mk-41) variant. The vertical launched LRASM was already successfully tested in September 2014.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3454

SNA 2016: General Atomics Unveils Multi Mission Medium Range Railgun for LCS

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At the Surface Navy Association's (SNA) National Symposium currently held near Washington DC, General Atomics Electromagnetics unveils for the first time its "Multi-mission Medium Range Railgun Weapon System". Brochures and a poster at SNA 2016 showed the weapon system fitted on board a Freedom variant Littoral Combat Ship (LCS).

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3455


SNA 2016 Video: BAE Systems ORKA One Shot One Kill 57mm Round for LCS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKVIXXabkl0
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"ORKA's first flight test took place in December 2015 and was fin stabilized only (no canards) to check aerodynamic stability" said Charlie McCullough, Director of business development, maritime weapons at BAE Systems. McCullough explained that maneuvering tests with canards would take place this summer.

ORKA follows a U.S. Navy requirement to give more lethality to Littoral Combat Ships, especially against swarming types of attacks.

Read: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3465

SNA 2016 Video: Raytheon Developing Millimeter Wave Radar Seeker for Excalibur N5 Projectile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY6g-SfbMVM
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Raytheon is currently developing a Millimeter Waver Radar seeker for the Excalibur N5 projectile, Navy Recognition has learned during the Surface Navy Association's (SNA) National Symposium held last week near Washington DC.

Read: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3464



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/18/2016 11:34:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dysta
Fuel-air explosion is not only a military hype, but also a hidden nightmare from several missiles, and is happening too.

The most recent example in this video at the second footage. The strike is not happening at indoor, and not an instanteous FAE effect, but the fuel ignition when being hit is very scary (either missile's own fuel, or vehicle fuel and/or ammo propellants) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFdIfpqoRec

And these are Iraqi CH-4 land strike, looks like they aren't going to stop playing those new toys for a while.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/25/2016 10:42:40 AM   
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40 pictures: French Navy Carrier Strike Group With Two New Generation FREMM Frigates

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The French Navy (Marine Nationale) has released a series of nice pictures showing the Charles de Gaulle Carrier Strike Group (CSG) underway in the Arabian/Persian Gulf. The French CSG is currently is currently deployed in the area in support of coalition operations against Daesh in Iraq and Syria.

More: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3489

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/26/2016 3:09:53 PM   
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@RAJ47

Second semi-submersible MLP ship under construction at Tianjin.
Assessed L-200m, W-35m.
Space available 130m X 33m.
GE DOI 9/13/15



Looks like the PLAN is very satisfied with the design. Gotta need at least four of them to transport the Zubr Hovercrafts that are in service now. And more in the future for other purposes.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/26/2016 3:54:04 PM   
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About SAT photos, the recent SAT picture also shows the completed state of Type 091 AOE before the launch:



And the launched side view, which is still fitting out:




I hardly reference the dimension of it since there's no known-object beside AOE for measurement, and also, many military analyses and amateurs are still debating its maximum displacement, in between 45,000-55,000 metric tones.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/26/2016 4:39:40 PM   
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Looks like there's prep work being done for the 2nd Type 901-class AOE...


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/26/2016 5:32:42 PM   
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Russian Navy Severodvinsk SSGN Submarine Launches Kalibr Cruise Missiles During State Trials

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The Project 885 Yasen-class nuclear-powered submarine Severodvinsk (K-560) has launched 3M-54 and 3M-14 cruise missiles during its state trials, Director of the Malakhit Marine Design Bureau Vladimir Dorofeyev said on Tuesday.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3497

Russian Navy Received Less Surface Vessels Than Planned in 2015
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Russia’s Navy received less surface ships than scheduled in 2015 over disruptions in the fulfillment of state defense order, military and naval experts said on Monday. In particular, the Russian Navy did not receive three Project 11356 and Project 22350 frigate Admiral Gorshkov and the Project 11711 large amphibious assault ship Ivan Gren, the experts said, referring to Head of the Navy’s Ship-Building Department Captain 1 Rank Vladimir Tryapichnikov.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3493

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/27/2016 8:55:08 AM   
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China's 24th Type 056 Corvette (Jiangdao class) Commissioned in PLAN South Sea Fleet
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A commissioning, naming and flag-presenting ceremony of the new "Jingmen" corvette (hull number 506) of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy) was held solemnly at the Yulin Naval Base located on Hainan island in China. The event means that the warship is officially commissioned to the PLAN. Jingmen is the twenty-fourth Type 056 Corvette (Jiangdao class).
...
Update 27/01/2016: Jingmen is actually a Type 056A, the variant fitted with a variable depth sonar. A photo of the stern of the ship shows the presence of a VDS.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3496

China's Fourth Type 071 LPD Amphibious Vessel Yimeng Shan to be Commissioned February 1st
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An article published on the website of the Chinese town of Linyi indicates that the fourth People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy) Type 071 amphibious transport dock LPD Yimeng Shan (hull number 988) will be commissioned next Monday, February 1st 2016. Yimeng Shan was built by Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding, a wholly owned subsidiary of China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC, the largest shipbuilding group in China) as was the case for the first three Type 071 vessels.

Yimeng Shan was launched in January last year and started sea trials in September 2015. The vessel is set to join the PLAN's East Sea Fleet (it will be the first vessel of the class for this fleet).

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3501

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/28/2016 3:01:39 PM   
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The Japanese have unveiled a new Stealth Plane, the X-2. They are expecting the demonstration plane to make its maiden flight in mid-February.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/28/2016 4:59:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ColonelMolerat

The Japanese have unveiled a new Stealth Plane, the X-2. They are expecting the demonstration plane to make its maiden flight in mid-February.

It's quite safe to say that's a demonstrator, It's not quite the size, and lacks of bevelings for being really stealthy as well as for the shock-entry attacks. Unless Japan is really looking for low-observing and cheaply mass-producible interceptors.

Though the engines is the real focus for the entire design, which is opposite to China's J-20 when using underpowered AL-31 for lots of advanced gizmos.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/28/2016 8:08:42 PM   
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A bit of update on Polish Navy.

1. ORP Ślęzak - new littoral patrol boat (originally planned as corvette, Polish variant of MEKO family vessels)
has been launched in July 2015, will enter service mid-2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_%C5%9Al%C4%85zak_%282016%29
http://www.defence24.com/237282,orp-slazak-launched



2. ORP Kormoran - new mine destroyer launched in September 2015, will enter service at the end of 2016, two more ships of this class have been ordered by Polish Navy and should enter service in 2019 and 2022.

http://www.defence24.com/254319,kormoran-minehunter-launched



3. All Orkan class missile boats have been equipped with RBS-15 Mk III missiles in 2015.

http://www.rp.pl/artykul/1172966-Okret-Orkan-ma-ostre-pazurki.html

BTW Orkan class needs significant correction in current DB, but since the relevant thread is locked I'll wait with submission.



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/30/2016 7:25:20 PM   
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U.S. Navy Awards Boeing Contract for 20 More P-8A Poseidon Aircraft Incl. 4 for Australia
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Boeing will further equip the U.S. Navy and Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) with maritime patrol capabilities, building 20 more P-8A Poseidon aircraft following a $2.5 billion U.S. Navy order announced yesterday.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3513

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/31/2016 9:37:07 AM   
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China's Sixth Type 903A Fleet Replenishment Oiler Commissioned Into PLAN East Sea Fleet

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A commissioning, naming and flag-presenting ceremony of the new Gaoyouhu fleet replenishment oiler (hull number 966) of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy) was held solemnly at the Zhoushan naval base in east China’s Zhejiang province. The event means that the vessel is officially commissioned in the PLAN.

Gaoyouhu is the sixth Type 903A fleet replenishment oiler (Qiandaohu class) of the PLAN and the third one for the PLAN East Sea Fleet.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3515

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/31/2016 6:29:50 PM   
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Speculations in Mer et Marine about if the Super Etendard, after his retirement in late 2016, could be transferred to Argentine (I doubt it very much, because budgetary and political questions): http://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/une-seconde-vie-en-argentine-pour-les-sem-de-laeronautique-navale

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/31/2016 7:42:36 PM   
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Sinosoldier@Sinodefense quoting Henri.K, a long time french Chinawatcher:

A couple of interesting notes about the DF-26, as posted by Henri K.:

- Range: 3500-5000 km
- It is capable of precision strike
- Its flight trajectory is divided into three phases
- Maneuvering reentry vehicles (MaRV) are deployed on the DF-15C, DF-21C, DF-21D, and others
- MaRV technology was developed in China via reverse-engineering "foreign samples" in the '80s.
- Researchers visited museums with the Pershing II missile and took photos of its reentry vehicle
- Development of the MaRV began in 1997, with first MaRV test in 2000, followed by four more MaRV tests in 2002, all at varying angles of attack
- Development of the DF-26 began in 2002
- MaRV maneuverability is attained by its rudder
- The article mentions that the WU-14 is being developed

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1991年,我国高超声速再入空气舵机动飞行器预研攻关项目起步,朱广生以室主任助理的身份负责十大关键技术之首的“气动特性研究”项目。研究内容便是以国外20世纪80年代先进机动飞行器为原型,进行“反设计”。
  “有关国外先进飞行器的性能只能收集到零星的报导,具体尺寸不知道,只能通过别人在国外展览馆参观的时候拍的照片来推断。”朱广生介绍,“而且拍的角度不同照片也不同,只能得出一个大概的轮廓,而要得到气动外形设计的主导思想,只能另谋出路。”
  为此,朱广生独辟蹊径,采用理论分析、计算及典型风洞试验相结合的方法,反推断国外某先进飞行器的设计思路。“看照片,我就会思考他们为什么会设计成两个锥?根据人家展览的实际外形等反推出他们的设计思路,这就叫‘反设计’。”朱广生说。通过对组成飞行器的“舵”与“体”气动特性作用机理的研究,朱广生揭示了空气舵机动飞行器双锥体匹配、“体”“舵”匹配的气动变化规律。

一直到2000年,才进行我国第一个机动飞行器的飞行试验,飞行攻角被限制为14°。尽管试验很成功,但朱广生并不服气。国外专家所谓的“头激波不允许打到舵上”的说法对吗?
  后来,朱广生自己从各大资料中寻找答案。在攻克了一个个难题、破解了一道道拦路虎后,朱广生终于找到了答案。他将教科书中激波压缩之后的公式结合外形实际进行推导,再结合飞行器的实际飞行参数进行量化处理,最后发现扰动区和未扰动区的分界面形成的并不是激波而是膨胀波,而膨胀形成的热流并不高。
  朱广生将此发现写成了一篇论文向上级汇报,并得到了总师陈福田院士的支持。2002年,一院又先后打出了4发导弹,选择的攻角分别为14°、16°、18°、20°,均获得圆满成功,回收的残骸外观验证了朱广生的判断,同时也证明了当初国外专家误导了中国设计人员。


Additionally, it is mentioned that the DF-26 RV has a reentry-speed of Mach 12 to Mach 18.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 1/31/2016 7:58:37 PM   
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http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2016/01/photo-of-day-long-march-8-second-shang.html

"Photo of the day: "Long March 8", the second Shang Class nuclear-powered attack submarine"

"This 7000 tons attack sub was launched in 2003 but we have to wait 13 years for this official news photo"




Welcome to the hell that is Chinese Defense Watching.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/1/2016 10:23:32 AM   
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Video: PLAN Type 056 Corvette Testing its Weapons at Sea Including HQ-10 RAM-Like CIWS

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China Central Television news channel (CCTV 13) released a video showing the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy) Type 056 Corvette (Jiangdao class) Quanzhou in a live fire exercise. The video is interesting as it shows a live launch of the HQ-10 close-in weapon system (CIWS) which is often compared to the American RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile (RAM) system.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3518

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/1/2016 1:06:32 PM   
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UCLASS looks set to become CBARS!

Unmanned strike or unmanned recon roles look to have been shelved in favour of ........ a tanker!

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/naval/naval-aviation/2016/01/31/uclass-ucasd-navy-carrier-unmanned-jet-x47-northrop-boeing/79624226/?platform=hootsuite


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/1/2016 1:13:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AlGrant

Unmanned strike or unmanned recon roles look to have been shelved in favour of ........ a tanker!



It save lots of pilots' careers as well. Hope unmanned refueling isn't hard as unmanned dogfighting.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/1/2016 5:36:45 PM   
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Probably up to 6xSu-35S deployed in Latakia from late January 2016 (reported bort numbers 01 and 02): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcRG7MFslas&index=1&list=LLY2OGGi7xhwHQ2CmNo9O-Pg

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/3/2016 6:58:41 PM   
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Remarks Previewing the FY 2017 Defense Budget
As Delivered by Secretary of Defense Ash Carter, Washington DC, February 2, 2016


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“And the last project I want to highlight is one that we're calling the arsenal plane, which takes one of our oldest aircraft platform and turns it into a flying launchpad for all sorts of different conventional payloads. In practice, the arsenal plane will function as a very large airborne magazine, network to fifth generation aircraft that act as forward sensor and targeting nodes, essentially combining different systems already in our inventory to create holy new capabilities.
So these are just a few examples of what the SCO has done so far and they're working a lot more.”


My Question,

Does this mean that a prototype or such has already been flown or tested by the SCO or DARPA or the like and the results have been appraised to the point where it appears to be a feasible concept that the DOD is actually going to consider?

Its always seemed like a Megafortress like vehicle would make sense in modern combat environment assuming its survivability can be worked out. Also using another fictional Dale Brown aircraft as my point of refence wasn’t there also a B-1 bomber that used AA and ASM and even Laser or Anti SAT wepons to crush the bad guys? Would modern jammers & stealth enhancements allow for this to work?

Just throwing it out for convo.

thanks

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/3/2016 8:38:37 PM   
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The SM-6 has about the dimensions of a ALCM. I wonder what kind of range you'd get if you air launched it. Something to check with the Mount Editor!

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/4/2016 4:18:38 PM   
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Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey for U.S. Navy COD Mission Receives Official Designation: CMV-22B
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In February 2015, the U.S. Navy announced the Carrier Onboard Delivery, commonly referred to as COD, platform of the future would be a maritime variant of the V-22 Osprey. Until recently, that aircraft was referred to as the Navy variant. Now, that V-22 has an official designation: CMV-22B.
The main mission of the COD platform is to provide the Joint Force Maritime Component Commander with time-critical, long-range aerial logistics support by transporting personnel, mail and priority cargo from advance bases to the sea base. The CMV-22B will be the same as the MV-22B with three additions. It will include an extended-range fuel system, a high-frequency radio and a public address system.

Read more: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3533

1st Flight of Thales SEARCHMASTER radar on French Navy Atlantique 2 Maritime Patrol Aircraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ6sd-FItp0
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Thales announced the first flight of the SEARCHMASTER radar, developed as part of France’s Atlantique 2 (ATL2) maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) upgrade programme, and available for export. According to Thales, this major milestone for the ATL2 upgrade and the SEARCHMASTER is proof of the advanced state of development and maturity of the radar, just two years after the contract was awarded.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3532

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/5/2016 12:14:29 AM   
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CMV-22B? That's pretty lame. I blame the Marines for bucking standards - "Marine" V-22, as opposed to "Cargo" V-22 or "Multimission" V-22. How about UV-22B?

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/5/2016 3:22:02 AM   
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CMV-22B? That's pretty lame. I blame the Marines for bucking standards - "Marine" V-22, as opposed to "Cargo" V-22 or "Multimission" V-22. How about UV-22B?

As well as a rare destination with 3 English letters ahead for aircrafts.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/5/2016 10:26:43 AM   
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Doesn't the C hint at a possible ASW mission kit for the V-22 ?
I know Boeing worked on it. May the Navy will get it down the road.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/5/2016 11:59:39 AM   
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My Question,

Does this mean that a prototype or such has already been flown or tested by the SCO or DARPA or the like and the results have been appraised to the point where it appears to be a feasible concept that the DOD is actually going to consider?

Its always seemed like a Megafortress like vehicle would make sense in modern combat environment assuming its survivability can be worked out. Also using another fictional Dale Brown aircraft as my point of refence wasn’t there also a B-1 bomber that used AA and ASM and even Laser or Anti SAT wepons to crush the bad guys? Would modern jammers & stealth enhancements allow for this to work?

Just throwing it out for convo.

thanks

Brian

The B-1R was proposed by Boeing as a Mach 2 air-to-air-"optimized" (with up to 24 AMRAAMs) upgrade. I don't think it got to the prototype stage before being dropped.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 2/5/2016 6:21:58 PM   
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CMV-22B? That's pretty lame. I blame the Marines for bucking standards - "Marine" V-22, as opposed to "Cargo" V-22 or "Multimission" V-22. How about UV-22B?


The M in MV-22 is for multimission. It's not a U because that's is typically used for aircraft providing combat support as opposed to directly engaging in combat. The Navy's variant was originally supposed to be HV-22 (years and years ago).

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Doesn't the C hint at a possible ASW mission kit for the V-22 ?
I know Boeing worked on it. May the Navy will get it down the road.


No C is for Transport. ASW would be S.

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