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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 3/26/2016 5:21:31 PM   
Karaganov

 

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 3/27/2016 7:24:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Guys, I think you need to add some Finnish units

Civil Guards (more 100,000 people)
Swedish volunteers (around 10,000 people)

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 3/27/2016 4:57:42 PM   
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http://slon-76.livejournal.com/5822.html
http://slon-76.livejournal.com/5944.html
http://slon-76.livejournal.com/6226.html
http://slon-76.livejournal.com/6518.html
http://slon-76.livejournal.com/6761.html
http://slon-76.livejournal.com/7037.html
http://slon-76.livejournal.com/7179.html

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 3/27/2016 5:07:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kompolka

Guys, I think you need to add some Finnish units

Civil Guards (more 100,000 people)
Swedish volunteers (around 10,000 people)



If you do volunteers unit, I think that it should just be volunteers, not the Swedes. Besides Swedes, in the Finnish Army had many Estonians, the Norwegians, the Danes, the Hungarians. It is wrong to allocate only Swedes.

With regard to the Civil Guards (Skyddskar or Suojeluskunta).
I totally agree with you. These guys have to be in the game.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 3/29/2016 6:20:35 AM   
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coastal defence ship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_coastal_defence_ship_Vainamoinen
gun boat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_gunboat_Hameenmaa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_gunboat_Karjala
motor torpedo boat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_motor_torpedo_boats_of_World_War_II
Submarine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetehinen-class_submarine

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/16/2016 7:30:04 AM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/16/2016 1:08:53 PM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/17/2016 10:20:02 AM   
Karaganov

 

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1.
I continue to work with the map for the Western Front.
New the eastern border of the map - Dnipro (Shklov, Mogilev, Bykhov, Zhlobin, Rechitsa, Bragin). I think that this will be the final piece of the map. But I have very little free time right now. And I can not say when I will be able to finish map.

2.
Also we create new platform for patch 1.25.

I see that we can add the following fractions
Soviet Union
Third Reich
Japan
Finland

Questionable
Romania (lacking a pair of staff units and horse transport)
Italy (lacking a pair of staff units)
Hungary (no air units)
Slovakia (no air units)


a little about air units
This is the main problem at the moment.
I think that units of H.Balck and units of Bebro are visually incompatible with each other. But Bebro made much wider line of air units. And I think that we must leave the units of Bebro.

< Message edited by Karaganov -- 4/17/2016 10:30:53 AM >

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/17/2016 1:39:00 PM   
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Questionable
Romania (lacking a pair of staff units and horse transport)

Romania is lacking much more than that. First of all, if you add most of the released aircraft here you discredit yourself:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=4061488
This is what there was in service up to Stalingrad:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=4062374

Secondly, Romania does not have most of its main anti-aircraft units. It only has the light 40mm Bofors, but in reality it licensed produced the following two and these were its main guns:
1) 37mm Rheinmetall antiaircraft gun model 1939
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tun_antiaerian_Rheinmetall_calibru_37_mm_model_1939
Here they are at Odessa:
http://www.worldwar2.ro/foto/?id=79&area=31
2) Vickers/Reşiţa md. 1936/1939, cal. 75 mm - the british Vickers M.31 cal. 75 mm aa gun built under license in Romania. This should be switchable for an anti-tank role and indeed, it was the basis for the Resita 75mm md. 1943 (which we already have)
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Model_1931
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?article=336
http://blogistoriexiib.blogspot.ro/2014/05/galerie-cu-fotografii-de-pe-frontul-de.html

http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/76ItK34_1.jpg
http://www.waroverholland.nl/index.php?page=photo&pid=4017
http://www.waroverholland.nl/index.php?page=photo&pid=3881

Thirdly, Romania does not currently have a unit of Bridge Engineers, even though it did have them in reality:
http://www.worldwar2.ro/organizare/?language=en&article=34
With all the rivers in the area it`s an important thing to lack. We even have the transport for it


quote:

Italy (lacking a pair of staff units)

And European camouflage for a dozen of its units which currently go to Stalingrad in shorts and desert camouflage.
quote:

Hungary (no air units)

Slovakia (no air units)

I`ve been asking for these for a long time.

quote:

I think that units of H.Balck and units of Bebro are visually incompatible with each other. But Bebro made much wider line of air units. And I think that we must leave the units of Bebro.

I think so too, that`s why I offered to add entire lines of aircraft and not disparate units. I almost started work on the Soviet and British aircraft. Good thing I didn`t lose any time with that project, now that I know H.Balck would rather redo the Germans again. Coincidentally, when he redoes the European German units he also makes all the desert camouflage German units obsolete because those will no longer match the animation offsets values.

Btw, as far as the aircraft are concerned you should know that those assembled by T2_2112 have the small images at about 40% and not 50% as all the other units. Not necessarily a bad idea, but inconsistent with the rest of the in game scale.


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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/17/2016 2:20:56 PM   
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You have done a very great deal of work.
And I'm sorry that you and H.Balck can not come to a common denominator.

As for the Romanian units, I think the more the Romanian units, the better. Romania played a very visible role, on the southern flank of the Soviet front.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/17/2016 4:10:20 PM   
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As for the Romanian units, I think the more the Romanian units, the better. Romania played a very visible role, on the southern flank of the Soviet front.

My point too. I am really bored by scenarios of Army Group Center and opposing forces. I understand that`s where the main thrust was (and kudos to Karaganov for making such a detailed scenario for once), but this route has been done too many times since Panzer General and PzC has repeated it too. There were so many men involved from Romania, Hungary, Italy, Slovakia... I`m tired with how developers continue to ignore this and just make a generic looking infantry and a generic looking gun for them.

Panzer General 2 was the exception. It was not so historical in its approach, but at least it placed you in rare places and made you command or face a variety of forces. If you`ve played it you may remember that the German Barbarossa campaign started with Army Group South and especially on the section of the Romanian forces. The Russian campaign too had alot of focus on the Southern Front. There was so much diversity involved and challenges too, given the multitude of nations which you needed to get accustomed to. I miss that.

Maybe you guys will eventually get to cover this section more. For example, Odessa would probably not require such a large map and great effort and would bring something rare to this game.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/17/2016 5:35:04 PM   
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For me too, it would be interesting to play on the map of the Southern Front. There's a very interesting theater of combat operations (the Black Sea estuaries, the delta of the Danube, Izmail, Odessa, Nikolaev, the mouth of the Dnieper).


if you may add
High Speed Artillery Tractor Stalinez S-2
SKhTZ 15-30 Tractor
High-Speed Artillery Tractor Ya-12
It would be great!!!

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/17/2016 8:14:49 PM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/18/2016 4:38:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: R35

They`re bellow.


Thank you!
It's very kind of you

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/18/2016 8:43:20 PM   
Karaganov

 

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I understand your feelings.
But I very much hope that you and H.Balck will be continue to work on the mod.
Hungary, Italy, Romania look unfinished. It severely limits the game. That is very unfair.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/18/2016 9:05:06 PM   
R35

 

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Status: offline 		@Karaganov make sure you friend has all the recently posted units because I see he`s been doing some that I had already completed (FAI-M, D-8 and ST-26). I don`t mind if he actually wants to redo them, but otherwise he`s wasting his time. :D

Also, I think he`s done a great job btw! Good to see there`s someone else available to assemble these. My only comment (it`s a suggestion, not criticism) would be about the GAZ_AA_37mm_M1939 which switches to AT. It`s fine as it is of course, but I think it`s best if the switchable versions are in exactly the same spot. When you hit the switch button in game you can see the unit changing and it looks far cooler if it simply lowers/raises the barrel (it`s similar to an animation) than if the whole unit flips from one spot to the other.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/18/2016 9:06:04 PM   
Karaganov

 

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I can do a map for the heroic defense of Odessa. Especially since I am drew the big map for the southern front. And I know that the guys wanted to create a couple of campaigns for this theater of war. But all this does not make sense at the moment.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/18/2016 9:15:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Considering that it was a Romanian run operation you can`t really do it right now because you lack the entire Romanian airforce (with the exception of the IAR-80). :D The two AA guns that I`ve mentioned and, in my opinion, the Bridge engineers would also be important. Maybe in the future...

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/18/2016 9:33:16 PM   
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Also I asked him to collect the next units
Bicycle Infantry
Sd.Kfz. 252 leichte Gepanzerte Munitionskraftwagen
Phaenomen Granit 1500S
Schwimmkubel FJ
Ford V 3000 S
Ford V 3000 S Maultier
Mercedes 170 VK
Mercedes L-4500 A
Mercedes L-4500 Maultier
Schlepper T-20 (r)
Kfz 1 Kubelwagen Type 82
Aufkl Pz Wg P 204 (f)
s.Sp. Artilleriewagen
Finnish Citroen Type 23 Radio
Japan Nissan Type 180 Radio
Type 95 Kurogane
NNS Typ 95 Daruma
Toyota GB
Nissan Type 180

Please
Let us know if you already have a ready-made units from this list

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/18/2016 9:44:56 PM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/24/2016 8:13:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Karaganov

Annoyingly...

Also I asked him to collect the next units
Bicycle Infantry
Sd.Kfz. 252 leichte Gepanzerte Munitionskraftwagen
Phaenomen Granit 1500S
Schwimmkubel FJ
Ford V 3000 S
Ford V 3000 S Maultier
Mercedes 170 VK
Mercedes L-4500 A
Mercedes L-4500 Maultier
Schlepper T-20 (r)
Kfz 1 Kubelwagen Type 82
Aufkl Pz Wg P 204 (f)
s.Sp. Artilleriewagen
Finnish Citroen Type 23 Radio
Japan Nissan Type 180 Radio
Type 95 Kurogane
NNS Typ 95 Daruma
Toyota GB
Nissan Type 180

Please
Let us know if you already have a ready-made units from this list


Karaganov
I think that it would be good if Goga will make battle cards for these units also
FORD G917T 20mm
M39 25mm Flak
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3348600&mpage=40&key=

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/24/2016 7:09:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Brazenman

Karaganov
I think that it would be good if Goga will make battle cards for these units also
FORD G917T 20mm
M39 25mm Flak
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3348600&mpage=40&key=


http://my-files.ru/iwrhj7

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/25/2016 5:42:21 PM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/30/2016 7:44:42 AM   
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You can find a lot of interesting information about the Winter War in this forum:
http://istorya.pro/zavershayushchaya-faza-podgotovki-k-zimney-voyne-39-40-gg.-t.html

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 4/30/2016 11:10:23 AM   
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Here you can find a lot of pictures of the Winter War
http://waralbum.ru/category/war/east/winter_war/

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 5/4/2016 8:32:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Karaganov

a little about air units
This is the main problem at the moment.
I think that units of H.Balck and units of Bebro are visually incompatible with each other. But Bebro made much wider line of air units. And I think that we must leave the units of Bebro.


by the way
Bebro made a few new air units!
http://slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=30004&start=560


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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 5/5/2016 4:53:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Zhenka

by the way
Bebro made a few new air units!
http://slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=30004&start=560



Thank you, guys!

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 5/20/2016 3:50:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Karaganov

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zhenka

by the way
Bebro made a few new air units!
http://slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=30004&start=560



Thank you, guys!


Honestly, I really like the planes of H.Balck.
It seems to me that you could add at least some of them.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 5/20/2016 10:47:35 PM   
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I've never heard of such a modification

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 5/21/2016 9:34:59 AM   
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This is a fantasy
This model does not exist

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