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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/1/2016 8:36:11 AM   
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I hope you will find time to test this
http://my-files.ru/f7q12c



All good. I like it.

But I would make a small change:
Road 1.5 1.5 1.5
for Wheeled Transport , Motorcycle, Animal Traction

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/1/2016 8:38:23 AM   
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Congratulations! You`ve managed to complete this in less than a month instead of the anticipated two. Pity you only got two units to show for it, but hopefully that will change.



I join in the congratulations! I can not wait to look at the new version of the map!!!

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/2/2016 12:16:52 PM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/2/2016 12:18:21 PM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/2/2016 12:18:50 PM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/2/2016 12:25:41 PM   
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Congratulations! You`ve managed to complete this in less than a month instead of the anticipated two. Pity you only got two units to show for it, but hopefully that will change.


Thank you for your congratulations. H.Balck has assumed certain obligations to us, and I hope that he will keep his word.
I spent a lot of time on a completely useless piece of map, and I do not want to look like an idiot in this situation.

< Message edited by Karaganov -- 9/2/2016 12:30:21 PM >

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/5/2016 4:04:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: R35

Congratulations! You`ve managed to complete this in less than a month instead of the anticipated two. Pity you only got two units to show for it, but hopefully that will change.


Thank you for your congratulations. H.Balck has assumed certain obligations to us, and I hope that he will keep his word.
I spent a lot of time on a completely useless piece of map, and I do not want to look like an idiot in this situation.


Karaganov, I warned you earlier
You are repeating mistakes of Stalin and Gorbachev

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/5/2016 6:14:41 PM   
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Thank you for your congratulations. H.Balck has assumed certain obligations to us, and I hope that he will keep his word.
I spent a lot of time on a completely useless piece of map, and I do not want to look like an idiot in this situation.

You did the best you could (for something that would have benefited many PzC fans), short of being dishonest. You can take pride in that.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/6/2016 7:50:53 PM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/7/2016 9:28:27 AM   
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http://pikabu.ru/story/minskiy_kotel_chast_1_4336966
http://pikabu.ru/story/minskiy_kotel_chast_2_4350185

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/7/2016 9:34:10 AM   
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http://pikabu.ru/story/smolenskoe_srazhenie_chast_3_kontrnastuplenie_na_bobruysk_4399120
http://pikabu.ru/story/smolenskoe_srazhenie_chast_4_smolenskiy_quotkotelquot_4412404
http://pikabu.ru/story/smolenskoe_srazhenie_chast_5_bolshaya_politika_i_strategiya_4430502

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/7/2016 10:05:41 AM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/7/2016 10:16:20 AM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/7/2016 10:43:08 AM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/7/2016 10:48:18 AM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/7/2016 10:56:23 AM   
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/12/2016 7:25:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Karaganov, forgive me, but I have found a mistake in your list
Hungarian Engineers and Hungarian Pioneri - this is the one and the same unit !!!

I propose to add - Italian Field Gun 75/18 (green version), instead of one of these units.
If I am not mistaken, this unit is presented only in the yellow version, for now

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/12/2016 7:41:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Karaganov

Brazenman
I hope you will find time to test this
http://my-files.ru/f7q12c


I think that you need to write movement type -19 for Kfz 69 ( and for SdKfz 2 Kettenkrad HK 101 ???)

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/12/2016 11:19:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I welcome you guys. Excellent maps!

In that case if you want to create the scenario about fight for Moscow, you should add this unit - soviet anti-tank infantry
http://www.militarymodelling.com/sites/1/images/article_images_month/2009-11/tamiyarussianinfantryantitankteam%20(1).jpg

Anti-tank infantry battalions have played a big role in fight for Moscow, and not only in fight for Moscow.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/13/2016 3:38:44 PM   
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Karaganov, forgive me, but I have found a mistake in your list
Hungarian Engineers and Hungarian Pioneri - this is the one and the same unit !!!

I propose to add - Italian Field Gun 75/18 (green version), instead of one of these units.
If I am not mistaken, this unit is presented only in the yellow version, for now



Ok, I agree

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/18/2016 8:56:03 AM   
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The Red Army
http://topor.at.ua/news/bronetekhnika_vtoroj_mirovoj_vojny/2011-10-02-476

The Italian army
http://topor.at.ua/news/bronetekhnika_vtoroj_mirovoj_vojny_italjanskaja_bronetekhnika/2011-10-20-489

The French army
http://topor.at.ua/news/bronetekhnika_vtoroj_mirovoj_vojny_francuzskaja_bronetekhnika/2011-10-20-488

The US army
http://topor.at.ua/news/bronetekhnika_vtoroj_mirovoj_vojny_amerikanskaja_bronetekhnika/2011-10-20-487

The British army
http://topor.at.ua/news/bronetekhnika_vtoroj_mirovoj_vojny_bronetekhnika_britanii_kanady_avstralii_i_juar/2011-10-20-486

The Wehrmacht
http://topor.at.ua/news/bronetekhnika_vtoroj_mirovoj_vojny_nemeckaja_bronetekhnika/2011-10-02-477





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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/18/2016 3:03:53 PM   
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http://sovietarmour.com/ru/Soviet_Railroad_Armour/
http://sovietarmour.com/Soviet_Railroad_Armour/


< Message edited by Kompolka -- 9/18/2016 3:15:43 PM >

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/19/2016 2:42:39 PM   
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http://my-files.ru/bgptmy
Thank you very much Kompolka for good testing. Great job! You really helped us.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/21/2016 10:45:36 AM   
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I found some interesting information about artillery tractors of the Wehrmacht
I hope this helps you.


Sd.Kfz.2 used for towing a 37-cm anti-tank guns, 7.5-cm infantry guns, 2-cm anti-aircraft guns and other light systems.
Sd.Kfz.10 used for towing anti-tank guns caliber 3.7-cm, 5-cm and 7.5-cm.
Light tractor Sd.Kfz.11 used for towing 10.5-cm field howitzers and 15-cm rocket launchers.
Middle tractor Sd.Kfz.6 used for towing 10.5-cm field howitzers, 15-cm heavy howitzers, 10.5-cm cannons and 8.8-cm anti-aircraft guns.
Middle tractor Sd.Kfz.7 used for towing 15-cm heavy howitzers, 10.5-cm cannons and 8.8-cm anti-aircraft guns.
Heavy tractor Sd.Kfz.8 used for towing 8.8-cm anti-aircraft guns, 10.5-cm anti-aircraft guns, 170-cm cannons, 203-cm morsers (arr. 18).
Heavy tractor Sd.Kfz.9 used for towing all types of tanks, all heavy artillery systems of big and special power, and 12.8-cm anti-aircraft guns.

http://www.e-reading.club/chapter.php/1006371/9/Shirokorad_-_Artilleriya_v_Velikoy_Otechestvennoy_voyne.html

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/22/2016 1:10:10 PM   
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New settings
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Thank you very much Kompolka for good testing. Great job! You really helped us.


Karaganov
I found a mistake - you forgot to change value of max strength for all romanian infantry units.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/22/2016 1:52:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think you could add Italy too.
We already have a good line of units for Italy:

Italian Lancia 3Ro NM (Staff Car)

Italian Infantry
Italian Mot Infantry
Italian Mnt Infantry
Italian Paras
Italian Blackshirts
Italian Engineers
Italian Bridge Engineers

Italian L3-33
Italian L3-35
Italian L3-35 Lf
Italian L 40 47-32
Italian L6-40
Italian M11-39
Italian M13-40
Italian M14-41
Italian M15-42 (used M14-41)
Italian P26-40

Italian Cavalry
Italian Motorcycles
Italian Lancia IZ
Italian AB 41

Italian Cannone cc da 37-45.png
Italian 47-32 M35
Italian M41M 90-53

Italian 75mm 75-18
Italian 75mm 75-27
Italian 100mm 100-17
Italian 100mm 100-22
Italian French 105mm
Italian 149mm 149-35
Italian 149mm 149-40
Italian M40 75-18
Italian M40 75-18-AT

Italian 20mm AA-gun Breda Model 35
Italian 20mm AA-gun Breda Model 35-AT
Italian 75/46 AA-gun Model 34
Italian 75/46 AA-gun Model 34-AT
Italian Autocannone da 90-53
Italian Autocannone da 90-53-AT

Italian Horse Transport
Italian Mnt Transport
Italian Horse Transport Pio
Italian Fiat 626
Italian Fiat-SPA 38R
Italian Alfa Romeo 430
Italian Lancia 3 Ro
Italian Autocarretta 36
Italian Autocarretta 37
Italian Fiat-SPA S37
Italian Fiat-SPA TL37
Italian Pavesi P4 Mod 30A
Italian SPA Dovunque 35





We lack a few green units:

Italian 508CM Coloniale (Staff Car)
Italian Motorcycles Infantry
Italian M42 da 75/34
Italian M43 da 105/25 (Art and AT mode)
Italian Semovente da 149/40
Italian 90/53 m41C (AA and AT mode)
Italian Fiat 626 Breda 20/65 (AA and AT mode)

but I think that we can do without them

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/22/2016 4:02:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Karaganov here all ready units of your list
Thank you R-35 and Goga!
https://www.sendspace.com/file/xc8kay

At the moment, the following units are not yet collected:
Praga RV Radio (Slovak Staff Car)
Canon da 75-18 M1935
Cannone da 75-46 C.A. modello 34
Romanian Bridge Transport
Romanian Pontoon
Soviet_Bridge
Soviet Pontoon
KhT-26



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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/22/2016 4:17:32 PM   
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To date, the Finns have the following transport units
Horse Transport
Horse Transport Pio
Citroen 14
Ford V3000
Chevrolet RD

I believe that this is very little for their line artillery units!!!
I think that you will need to add:
Small Horse Transport (transport for 76mm LK-10-13)
Vidal G 1200 Tempo (transport for light AT-guns, light AA-guns and staff car for General Mannerheim) - http://trofmash.ru/gallery/tempo-g1200-6-seater-1936/
Artillery tractor T-20 Komsomolets (trophy) - http://waralbum.ru/tag/финский-тягач/


I also think that you can add to finnish line of units - 75mm AA-gun Vickers Model 1931. This unit is in the list of Karaganov for romanian line of units. But this gun was on arms in the Finnish army also - http://waralbum.ru/235904/

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/22/2016 6:58:20 PM   
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I found that we have lost some bigunits:

Soviet Armored GAZ-AA (Maxim)
Finnish Armored GAZ-AA (Maxim)
Finnish 37 PstK/36
Finnish 76mm LK-10-13
Finnish 76mm K-17
Finnish 105mm K-29

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. - 9/23/2016 1:42:24 PM   
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As for the two scenarios about Winter War




Two scenarios ...
Can you tell more in detail about this?

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