Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: JuanG

The five 'categories' presented above are just how the interface displays them, not how the game actually handles them.

My theory remains that it tracks the 'type' from the editor, of which there are 13 different codes;


As JF and EW don't seem to be used, that leaves us with 11 actual 'categories'.

Note that this is also why there's no difference moving from 'light bomber' to 'medium bomber', etc., as they are all part of the 'level bomber' group.

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ORIGINAL: Kull

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ORIGINAL: Sangeli

Well I'm still not seeing the behavior you are describing. When I manually select a pilot who was trained in a different type a plane I see the experience drop. But I DO NOT see it when I use the release pilot button. I've tested this multiple times with different plane types and even selecting from a different pilot pool. Something isn't adding up if this isn't what the rest of you are seeing...

Here's exactly what I did in the tests mentioned above. Opened the Kate unit pilot screen, changed the "To Pool" setting to "Reserve", and then clicked the "Release pilot" button (Most Experienced). The 79 Experience pilot immediately moved to the Reserve Pool. Next I clicked on a Betty unit, changed the "From..." setting to "Reserve (##)", and then clicked "Get New Pilot" button. The quantity of pilots ticked up by one, and when I opened the "Pilots" screen, the former Kate pilot was there, with experience now at 76.

This happens EVERY time, and in the test I described in the earlier post, the same occurred with Float to Patrol and Float to Recon.

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ORIGINAL: Sangeli

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ORIGINAL: Kull

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ORIGINAL: Sangeli

Well I'm still not seeing the behavior you are describing. When I manually select a pilot who was trained in a different type a plane I see the experience drop. But I DO NOT see it when I use the release pilot button. I've tested this multiple times with different plane types and even selecting from a different pilot pool. Something isn't adding up if this isn't what the rest of you are seeing...

Here's exactly what I did in the tests mentioned above. Opened the Kate unit pilot screen, changed the "To Pool" setting to "Reserve", and then clicked the "Release pilot" button (Most Experienced). The 79 Experience pilot immediately moved to the Reserve Pool. Next I clicked on a Betty unit, changed the "From..." setting to "Reserve (##)", and then clicked "Get New Pilot" button. The quantity of pilots ticked up by one, and when I opened the "Pilots" screen, the former Kate pilot was there, with experience now at 76.

This happens EVERY time, and in the test I described in the earlier post, the same occurred with Float to Patrol and Float to Recon.

Ah! I see what you did. You assigned the pilot to the squadron with the "Get New Pilot" button. The script would not use that method of adding pilots; it adds veterans with the "Request Veteran" button then uses the release pilot button in the new view. And if you do it that way, you avoid the pilot experience drop. The fact that adding pilots this way doesn't result in an experience drop but every other way does suggests it's some sort of bug. But since you can't tell what type of plane pilots trained with it's probably for the best.

Well now I know this is a non issue. Thanks!

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ORIGINAL: rustysi
Not so fast. I always use the 'request veteran' button when adding pilots to my frontline air units and I see the experience drops. I suggest you check again.

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I do have xp loss in the same game if I transfer pilots directly by clicking their name.

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ORIGINAL: Sangeli

Ah! I see what you did. You assigned the pilot to the squadron with the "Get New Pilot" button. The script would not use that method of adding pilots; it adds veterans with the "Request Veteran" button then uses the release pilot button in the new view. And if you do it that way, you avoid the pilot experience drop. The fact that adding pilots this way doesn't result in an experience drop but every other way does suggests it's some sort of bug. But since you can't tell what type of plane pilots trained with it's probably for the best.

Well now I know this is a non issue. Thanks!

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

That post did not clarify anything for me because it lacked the critical detail.

When you 'Request Veteran' and you go to the next screen you are allowed to get pilots from the general reserve, from other squadrons' reserves, or from TRACOM. BUT... the important detail is exactly what category (or 'sub-pool' if you wish) is the pilot coming from? If the pilot is a fighter pilot and you pick him for a bomber, then he will lose experience. Period. No mystery, totally in accord with the stated rules.

If the pilot is a fighter pilot and you pick him for a fighter, he will not lose experience. If he does lose experience, that is a bug insofar as how I understand the code is intended to work. But I do not see that happen.

So when you look at the pool how do you know what category (or sub-pool if you like that term better) that a pilot belongs to? Use the filters on that screen. When you want pilots for fighters, filter for fighter pilots, and so on.

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ORIGINAL: witpqs
If the pilot is a fighter pilot and you pick him for a bomber, then he will lose experience. Period. No mystery, totally in accord with the stated rules.

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ORIGINAL: rustysi
The real thing that gets me is what Kull noticed above. Three different outcomes for essentially the event. Doesn't seem right. Seems to me that they either should or should not lose experience no matter how they're assigned to a unit.

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I haven't had this with fighter pilots as yet, at least not that I've noticed. Although I did get my Nick's recently (twin engine). If I notice it there I'll let you know.

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

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I haven't had this with fighter pilots as yet, at least not that I've noticed. Although I did get my Nick's recently (twin engine). If I notice it there I'll let you know.

Just an FYI and what I fully expected. Put a single engine trained fighter pilot into a twin engine fighter and he'll lose some experience (69 down to 66). It was done manually ('request veteran') with filters on for fighter pilots only.

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

That post did not clarify anything for me because it lacked the critical detail.