Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: el lobo

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Trying to sort out your table here, not used to the format on my side.

Charts and spreadsheet are like art. Beauty is in the eye of the creator.

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ORIGINAL: el lobo

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

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Fighters: You have roughly 3x the number of groups of Oscar vs A6M. Your production should mimic that or it means you are not using your IJA groups enough, over using your IJN.
The issue with that is that you don't have enough training groups for the IJN so you will struggle with pilot exp and that will end up hurting you. Look at how your groups are disposed and see if this is true. If so, take action as you see fit.

When you say “groups”, then I am thinking that you may be way ahead of me in your thinking and perhaps misinterpreting my chart. I am still way back to what you talked about in Post #142. IOW, this is just my plan for model selection. For example, I think that my choices for Army fighters above are pretty much as what we discussed prior, except I added the Ki-93.

Understood. I was moving on a bit and commenting upon the relative number of A6M RnD factories .vs. Oscar. Just wanted you to be sure that you are aware of this "imbalance" and can then work to correct it.


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ORIGINAL: el lobo

I have gone through each of the other type of a/c model types like you suggested (i.e. Navy fighters, TBs, DB,s etc.) and this chart is the result.

I have just started looking at Army fighter groups and like we discussed, I have a lot of Nate groups that need to upgrade and the chart above now defines my selection choices.

When it comes to the groups themselves, it seems to me that I do not have a choice of what type or how many groups I have. They are either already active in the game or set in the que. The only choice I have, as far as type, is to what I upgrade the a/c. Is that correct?

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ORIGINAL: el lobo

My next big r&d challenge is figuring out what factories to let go into production, which ones to move to the next model and which ones to convert. A lot of what I ended-up on this chart is a result of my not planning this all out prior to the game start. Some of it will work-out OK and some will cost me extra supply. A lot of this will depend on how I decide to use my groups and that is going to be the topic of many more discussions, I hope.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Take screen pictures. I too am lost.

I chopped-off a Zero r&d at the top by mistake, sorry.

Some of the factories are still as they were at game start. I think I have nine r&d factories not yet assigned to anything I want. Anything I am seriously r&ding will eventually be expanded to x(x) = 30, but you knew that.

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

- Ki-100 is great bomber killer that is also able to be R&D-ed quite a bit. Switch Tony R&D factories from 1a to it when repaired, research and then produce it.
- No problems with training IJN pilots in gamey game at all. Those 81 size squadrons rock + after training you can put 70/70 air/def pilots into FP groups and fly CAP to build xp.
- Screw Ki-44-IIb (cannon can't hit broad side of the barn), switch factories directly to IIc when IIa is ready
- E15K1 Norm? <- good!
- You would need to produce some Rufes as there are several groups using those, can train your fighter pilots
- You research Mavises but no Emilies? Should not it be the other way around?
- Is Zero night fighter of any use? I recalled 2-engine NFs are usually good, do not have much experience with those myself
- Me personally would put more factories into Judy, them are your main CV hitting power (500/800kg bombs are kings) and have long R&D chain to benefit from

Thanks again GA.

I want the Ki-100 I but I want a lot of stuff. Still have time to decide.

So you are saying I should produce the Ki-44IIa and Ki-44IIc only, (just move the IIb r&d to the IIc)?

Will the higher maneuverability on the Norm help with asw?

My thought on the Rufes is that if I am going to spend the money I am going to buy a more useful plane. I can still use the Rufe units for training. The units do come with some planes of their own don't they?

When you say Mavises my eyes cross as not sure of which one you are talking. (Those, Helens, Peggys all tend to confuse me at times.) I'm not planning on r&ding any patrol or transports. If needed, I'll just produce them when they get here.

RE Judy, I think I see your reasoning here and will take a closer look. If I use the r&d to pull the models sooner I can still build new production factories when they arrive and let the r&d move up, can't I? Converting r&d to production is probably faster but like racing, speed cost money.

I still have a lot of studying to do on the balance of letting r&d go to production.

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ORIGINAL: el lobo
Thanks again GA.
So you are saying I should produce the Ki-44IIa and Ki-44IIc only, (just move the IIb r&d to the IIc)?
Yes
Will the higher maneuverability on the Norm help with asw?
It's FP with great range, an asset to your Navy and replacement for Jake
My thought on the Rufes is that if I am going to spend the money I am going to buy a more useful plane. I can still use the Rufe units for training. The units do come with some planes of their own don't they?
What others said. You need those
When you say Mavises my eyes cross as not sure of which one you are talking. (Those, Helens, Peggys all tend to confuse me at times.) I'm not planning on r&ding any patrol or transports. If needed, I'll just produce them when they get here.
Nevermind, screenshot shows H8K1 Emily researched. Just turn repair on, this and its successor H8K2 are your best land based flying boats and Japanese equivalent of Catalina in usefulness, and also occasional torpedo planes
RE Judy, I think I see your reasoning here and will take a closer look.
What others said. You need those )
I still have a lot of studying to do on the balance of letting r&d go to production.
If your economy and conquests permit wrt supply, you can build exactly 1 R&D factory higher than 30 with the aim of switching it to production later, and having all others go into new R&D. All factories repair with same proportional speed no matter size, so this biggie will not lag wrt research output

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ORIGINAL: Skygge

I have had great use of the Rufe upthough 1942 and even start 1943 in several games.
I place them on the 4 CS cruisers as they can argument the CAP with some 80+ FF´s
Not that they will get many kills in a carrier vs carrier battle, but they can help break up allied airformations.

As long as the allied has a viable Carrier Force the Rufu´s can tip the balance in pitched carrier battles.
As float planes you can not be sure that they will fly - if in bad weather, but then again in bad weather you will
often find that there is no real battle at all.

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Rufe's are also useful as CAT traps. Put them on a dot hex with an AV in range of a CAT base and watch them chew them up. Really hurts the allies ... they can't afford losses at all ...

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Put them at a dot base with an AV

Hard to detect, tough to hit and the Rufes can give unescorted bombers/patrol aircraft a hard time

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

If your economy and conquests permit wrt supply, you can build exactly 1 R&D factory higher than 30 with the aim of switching it to production later, and having all others go into new R&D. All factories repair with same proportional speed no matter size, so this biggie will not lag wrt research output

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ORIGINAL: Encircled

Put them at a dot base with an AV

Hard to detect, tough to hit and the Rufes can give unescorted bombers/patrol aircraft a hard time

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

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Put them at a dot base with an AV

Hard to detect, tough to hit and the Rufes can give unescorted bombers/patrol aircraft a hard time

+1

Husimi can convert to a good AV. You get a few to start as well. I go through a lot of them, but I also bag a lot of CATs.
Blinding the enemy is a great benefit.

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ORIGINAL: el lobo

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

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ORIGINAL: Encircled

Put them at a dot base with an AV

Hard to detect, tough to hit and the Rufes can give unescorted bombers/patrol aircraft a hard time

+1

Husimi can convert to a good AV. You get a few to start as well. I go through a lot of them, but I also bag a lot of CATs.
Blinding the enemy is a great benefit.

I have four in the yard now and two more on the way. Will do some more when the ships free-up. But at 180 and 210 days I won't be seeing them for awhile.

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that generally crosses the line with most players. Only the Glen can be used