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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/3/2016 9:51:05 PM   
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PS. If someone with programming skills wants to help me out with a small program to format the text let me know!

Something like that could be done, but it would take an awful lot of time to program and test it takes a lot less time to format it yourself. The problem is that its all markup formatting so you can't simply copy it from another program where you have made it 'pretty'.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/4/2016 12:45:51 AM   
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PS. If someone with programming skills wants to help me out with a small program to format the text let me know!

Something like that could be done, but it would take an awful lot of time to program and test it takes a lot less time to format it yourself. The problem is that its all markup formatting so you can't simply copy it from another program where you have made it 'pretty'.

Roger


Yeah, pretty much this. You say it takes maybe 30 minutes to format one of your posts if they're on the longer side...

I could see it easily taking 12-16 hours just to get a test-able thing done, because you've got to try to account for so much. And then there's going to be what I call "skeleton code" (I'm by no means an actual programmer) that takes care of the bare bones stuff: input/output structure, variables/memory usage, etc.

You might be better served created some macros in MS Office or another high-powered text editor.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/4/2016 10:56:19 AM   
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Would Python be ok for you guys?

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/4/2016 11:10:21 AM   
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Yeesh.

Have you tried Notepad++? In "programming school", all the early exercises on reading, writing, and formatting text are extreeeeeeeemely tedious. I'll pass .


To clarify a bit what I would like: I want to just paste the text into a box or whatever and the program then adds the formatting for colors, size, quotes, bold text and whatnot. The program would have to recognize where to put the formatting and stuff and its way beyond what I can do. The actual format are just text within brackets.

This is how my usual formatting of ground combat looks like:

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Ground combat at Milne Bay (101,133)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3135 troops, 100 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 215

Defending force 420 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Allied adjusted assault: 170

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 56 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Milne Bay !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Australian Division

Defending units:
2nd Indpt SNLF Coy


Its a PITA to do it manually when there are loads of attacks. Air attacks are usually more numerous and takes even longer if there are several I want to show. That quote above takes about 2 minutes to do. Now imagine if there are 5 attacks...and 10 air combats I want to show. It can take up to about 30 mins to manually edit in all the formatting sometimes. Then add a few screens and some screen editing and just doing the screens and formatting can take up to an hour.





Better yet, something that you can have read your open CR file and choose which combats to format.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/4/2016 2:16:33 PM   
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Even the most simple thing would be extremely helpful. As I said a big post can take 10-20 minutes to format and sometimes even more. Take that times 1000 turns....





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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/4/2016 2:24:58 PM   
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Looks like all the transports were sunk or withdrew! Will he try again next turn? I just don´t see how this could work. But perhaps he has used FT mission and grabbed some troops already.

But there is still 200.000 Japanese troops on the West Coast...




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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/4/2016 3:49:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think he has written off those troops and just wants to grab cadres of each unit for rebuild.

If that TF in your screenshot really has a CV your subs will be showing high detection levels. Only reason I can think of for him to have a single CV there is ASW and CAP for whatever transports he has left. Would be a great finish to put a few torpedoes into it!

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/4/2016 5:07:27 PM   
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Better yet, something that you can have read your open CR file and choose which combats to format.


Again, I'm wondering about macros in a high-powered text editor... I know you can do really useful macros for just about anything in Excel, so why wouldn't Word be the same? Maybe it's not and I'm totally off base.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/4/2016 5:08:02 PM   
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I think he has written off those troops and just wants to grab cadres of each unit for rebuild.

If that TF in your screenshot really has a CV your subs will be showing high detection levels. Only reason I can think of for him to have a single CV there is ASW and CAP for whatever transports he has left. Would be a great finish to put a few torpedoes into it!


Since fighters are spotted in the TF, it's definitely a CV. I'd actually wager that it's 2 CVEs from the plane numbers.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/4/2016 11:33:47 PM   
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Better yet, something that you can have read your open CR file and choose which combats to format.


Again, I'm wondering about macros in a high-powered text editor... I know you can do really useful macros for just about anything in Excel, so why wouldn't Word be the same? Maybe it's not and I'm totally off base.


There may well be that facility in Word but what is needed is markup text to drop into a posting here, and Word is not at all good for that. It either needs a text editor that uses markup which could then just be copied and pasted, or it needs a template that the text is dropped into, or it needs a really clever parsing tool that could be written in something like Python - which if I recall is what Witpqs used to do his Intelmonkey in. Way beyond my capacity but my capacity is pretty limited.

I process the combat reports in my own games to a format I want using a programme called CleanText - but that's a Mac piece of software -it turns it into text that can be read into a database, but that's not what is needed for the Forum either, though it could do some of the heavy lifting if a PC version exists. Edit... there is a PC version see here: http://en.freedownloadmanager.org/Windows-PC/Apimac-Clean-Text.html

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/6/2016 5:28:53 PM   
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Hope to get an update up Saturday morning.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/8/2016 7:12:25 PM   
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/8/2016 7:19:47 PM   
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Get well soon, Jocke!

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/8/2016 7:36:43 PM   
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Sorry guys. Stuck in bed with a bad fever.


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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/10/2016 4:07:13 PM   
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Nothing exciting has happened pretty much. I´ll try and get an update up when I get the turn file.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/10/2016 6:47:25 PM   
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/10/2016 8:43:16 PM   
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Should also add that the pace has not picked up since Jeff finished his other game. I´ll give him a few more days but after that I´ll have to bring it up with him. To be honest I don´t think I would be very upset if the game ended here. Motivation is pretty much zero right now. Might be due to the pace though.



Do what works best for you at this stage in your life - raising a family puts a lot of demands on you and if you cannot juggle AE into the hours available, put it on ice for a while.
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/11/2016 8:22:56 PM   
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 6:24:49 AM   
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Not really sure what Jeff is doing here. His fleet have been hovering in the same position for 3-5 turns now. Initially I though he was doing FT missions but now he is too far away. I have been probing his LOC with a DD TF without success.

He has run out of time though. Next turn 3,3k AV moves from March Field to Santa Ana dividing his forces in two. Only 12 units and 40k troops are in the way which is not enough given the terrain and the Allied troops.




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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 6:29:20 AM   
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We are making good progress here. Some engineers will be dropped off at Milne under LRCAP tomorrow. Then there will be a lull in the action for a while as the attention is moved to the Solomons while Milne expands.

BBs will start to soften up Horn Island before the small scale invasion there. Mostly for EXP training.




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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 6:34:28 AM   
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Japan sweep Port Blair catching the low CAP protecting the ships. We lose 11 Hurricanes for only 5 Zeroes. It will have to do for now though. Unloading won´t finish for 2-3 days more. 2 Pilots KIA and 2 WIA. I have 300 Hurricanes in the pool so I can do this for a while. Things will improve drastically once I can put the CAP up a bit higher and the radar is unloaded.




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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 6:35:40 AM   
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 12:12:28 PM   
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PS. Jeff says he wants to continue with the game so I guess we will do that. He will have to pick up the pace though or I will terminate it myself. 2-3 turns per week is not enough for me to keep interest up.


I can see why you'd have less interest now. You've fought a great battle and won it, and you know what the rest will be like to an extent.

I hope it keeps going though, because I think Japan still has a lot of fight, and I'd love to see how this kind of effort to hit the WC and the ensuing losses can be absorbed (or not) by the IJ economy.

It'll also be fun to see how you continue to push from your recently acquired footholds while Japan has been focused on the West Coast.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 1:43:03 PM   
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It'll also be fun to see how you continue to push from your recently acquired footholds while Japan has been focused on the West Coast.


Not sure there will be much pushing...I havn´t really done anything the last 30 turns or so...mostly just sorted WC and pressed end turn. Until I know for sure this game will pick up the pace I´m doing as little as possible. I have neglected planning and prepping for a while now. So once the troops I prepped earlier have landed I can´t really move forward.

Pretty stupid I know. But I just can´t motivate myself to spend time with the turns.

We shall see how things look from now on. Sent Jeff a turn this morning. If our usual pace holds I´ll get it Saturday or Sunday.


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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 2:17:39 PM   
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 3:59:30 PM   
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I would hate if this story ends. I am pretty curious how it would play long time...


Yeah...me too!

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 4:04:26 PM   
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Got the turn back today! That havn´t happened in a very long time...

Allied main army shifts hex to Santa Ana today. There has been sporadic bombing by 4Es mostly to see what is there. From the looks of it there arn´t much in the way of defense in place.

2nd and 12th division together with 18th Tank regiment. Unless he can shift in more for tomorrow I think we will overcome them. If the allies are victorious here tomorrow the Japanese army on the West coast is doomed and the main force will be caught in LA.

Fingers crossed for tomorrow...






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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 4:36:08 PM   
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 6:52:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those TFs SW of LA have not moved much. I wonder if they are barges, escorted by other ships to refuel - only way he could retrieve cadres of his units may have been barges.
DDs could have a field day with such a convoy ...

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 10/13/2016 9:21:59 PM   
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Those TFs SW of LA have not moved much. I wonder if they are barges, escorted by other ships to refuel - only way he could retrieve cadres of his units may have been barges.
DDs could have a field day with such a convoy ...


Or he is congregating for an all-in, one-go type of deal. Can't think of another reason for any kind of pause, besides forgetting about it. Which is just not something that would happen here.

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