Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

It was a bold if not crazy move into the US. I just wonder how he thought he could overcome three armored division. Now don't you wish you could take those division overseas with you?

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

It was a bold if not crazy move into the US. I just wonder how he thought he could overcome three armored division. Now don't you wish you could take those division overseas with you?

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
Now its gets interesting ...

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
Now its gets interesting ...

Yeah, I have to be wary of complacency going forward. While the IJA is pretty much removed from the game for a long time the IJN is still a very potent force.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
Now its gets interesting ...

Yeah, I have to be wary of complacency going forward. While the IJA is pretty much removed from the game for a long time the IJN is still a very potent force.

It has not. Don't get ahead of yourself.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
Now its gets interesting ...

Yeah, I have to be wary of complacency going forward. While the IJA is pretty much removed from the game for a long time the IJN is still a very potent force.

It has not. Don't get ahead of yourself.

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
Now its gets interesting ...

Yeah, I have to be wary of complacency going forward. While the IJA is pretty much removed from the game for a long time the IJN is still a very potent force.

It has not. Don't get ahead of yourself.

Let us say he saved a fragment from each of the units to avoid the time in the queue and political points of rebuilding from scratch.

1) Fragments have to make their way to a base where at least 25,000 supplies are amassed. This base also must be kept supplied for thousands of supplied drawn down during the replacement process.
2) This also assumes that the pools have generated enough vehicles and armaments in the pools to replace. Give some time here in this stage.
3) These units will be at the national training level. If they are not just experience builders for Allied units they will have some time in training mode.

Given no previous plan to build the units back, needing to move them to the supply center, take replacements, train ... I say 6 months ..
unless these units are headed to China or someplace like that ..a 40 exp unit is good fodder in the jungles of Burma I guess ..

Meanwhile The Allies toys grow in numbers ..And I am now convinced that the DEI is the route to take with a DBB based scenario ..The rebuilding of IJA divisions will eventually be a bane when the supplies go low

Also .. The Allies right now are

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
Now its gets interesting ...

Yeah, I have to be wary of complacency going forward. While the IJA is pretty much removed from the game for a long time the IJN is still a very potent force.

It has not. Don't get ahead of yourself.

Let us say he saved a fragment from each of the units to avoid the time in the queue and political points of rebuilding from scratch.

1) Fragments have to make their way to a base where at least 25,000 supplies are amassed. This base also must be kept supplied for thousands of supplied drawn down during the replacement process.
2) This also assumes that the pools have generated enough vehicles and armaments in the pools to replace. Give some time here in this stage.
3) These units will be at the national training level. If they are not just experience builders for Allied units they will have some time in training mode.

Given no previous plan to build the units back, needing to move them to the supply center, take replacements, train ... I say 6 months ..
unless these units are headed to China or someplace like that ..a 40 exp unit is good fodder in the jungles of Burma I guess ..

Meanwhile The Allies toys grow in numbers ..And I am now convinced that the DEI is the route to take with a DBB based scenario ..The rebuilding of IJA divisions will eventually be a bane when the supplies go low

Also .. The Allies right now are

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
Now its gets interesting ...

Yeah, I have to be wary of complacency going forward. While the IJA is pretty much removed from the game for a long time the IJN is still a very potent force.

It has not. Don't get ahead of yourself.

Let us say he saved a fragment from each of the units to avoid the time in the queue and political points of rebuilding from scratch.

1) Fragments have to make their way to a base where at least 25,000 supplies are amassed. This base also must be kept supplied for thousands of supplied drawn down during the replacement process.
2) This also assumes that the pools have generated enough vehicles and armaments in the pools to replace. Give some time here in this stage.
3) These units will be at the national training level. If they are not just experience builders for Allied units they will have some time in training mode.

Given no previous plan to build the units back, needing to move them to the supply center, take replacements, train ... I say 6 months ..
unless these units are headed to China or someplace like that ..a 40 exp unit is good fodder in the jungles of Burma I guess ..

Meanwhile The Allies toys grow in numbers ..And I am now convinced that the DEI is the route to take with a DBB based scenario ..The rebuilding of IJA divisions will eventually be a bane when the supplies go low

Also .. The Allies right now are

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
Now its gets interesting ...

Yeah, I have to be wary of complacency going forward. While the IJA is pretty much removed from the game for a long time the IJN is still a very potent force.

It has not. Don't get ahead of yourself.

Let us say he saved a fragment from each of the units to avoid the time in the queue and political points of rebuilding from scratch.

1) Fragments have to make their way to a base where at least 25,000 supplies are amassed. This base also must be kept supplied for thousands of supplied drawn down during the replacement process.
2) This also assumes that the pools have generated enough vehicles and armaments in the pools to replace. Give some time here in this stage.
3) These units will be at the national training level. If they are not just experience builders for Allied units they will have some time in training mode.

Given no previous plan to build the units back, needing to move them to the supply center, take replacements, train ... I say 6 months ..
unless these units are headed to China or someplace like that ..a 40 exp unit is good fodder in the jungles of Burma I guess ..

Meanwhile The Allies toys grow in numbers ..And I am now convinced that the DEI is the route to take with a DBB based scenario ..The rebuilding of IJA divisions will eventually be a bane when the supplies go low

Also .. The Allies right now are

1) is wrong. You don't need 25,000 supplies to take replacements - just double required supply at the base.
2) is also wrong - Japanese replacements do not depend upon pools of devices.
3) is also wrong - if he saved a fragment, it will have whatever XP the unit had, and yes it will regress towards the national average (50) but it's not a given that it will drop all the way there.

But even assuming he didn't save anything from these units, the IJA is not out of the fight. Yes, this hurts him, but the IJA didn't vanish with these losses.

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

1) Each of the units will require about 15K supplies last time we discussed this .. granted over time but probably better to have the supplies ahead of time
2) To completely fill out the division .. he will require devices unless he plans infantry only?
3) That was my point .. as he takes replacements the units are not going to the elite units they were once were and if they don't take the time to train they will end up as points and training fodder

Anyway .. you have not contributed to the conversation and plus your idiocy has earned my ban ..

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
But my overall point is that, even with the loss of 12 divisions and a very moderate amount of supporting units, the IJA isn't kaput. You don't have the shipping to conduct any enormous invasions for a while yet, and his perimeter (excepting perhaps the Moresby-Rabaul area) is still reasonably far away from anything that's too vulnerable/dangerous for him. The loss of these 12 divisions, aside from the points, is largely irrelevant to any near- and medium-term designs you (Joc) may have had on a Pacific offensive.

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Night Naval bombardment of Tulagi at 114,137

Allied Ships
CL Columbia
CL Phoenix
CL Boise
CL Helena
CL St. Louis
DD Tucker
DD Perkins
DD Cushing
DD Conyngham
DD Case
DD Cummings
DD Preston
DD Smith
DD DeHaven
DD Chevalier
DD Fletcher

Japanese ground losses:
1078 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 77 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled

Airbase hits 45
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 104
Port hits 52
Port fuel hits 13
Port supply hits 8

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Night Naval bombardment of Tulagi at 114,137

Allied Ships
CA Quincy
CA New Orleans
CA Chicago
CA Chester

Japanese ground losses:
589 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 18
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 4

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
Now its gets interesting ...

Yeah, I have to be wary of complacency going forward. While the IJA is pretty much removed from the game for a long time the IJN is still a very potent force.

It has not. Don't get ahead of yourself.

Let us say he saved a fragment from each of the units to avoid the time in the queue and political points of rebuilding from scratch.

1) Fragments have to make their way to a base where at least 25,000 supplies are amassed. This base also must be kept supplied for thousands of supplied drawn down during the replacement process.
2) This also assumes that the pools have generated enough vehicles and armaments in the pools to replace. Give some time here in this stage.
3) These units will be at the national training level. If they are not just experience builders for Allied units they will have some time in training mode.

Given no previous plan to build the units back, needing to move them to the supply center, take replacements, train ... I say 6 months ..
unless these units are headed to China or someplace like that ..a 40 exp unit is good fodder in the jungles of Burma I guess ..

Meanwhile The Allies toys grow in numbers ..And I am now convinced that the DEI is the route to take with a DBB based scenario ..The rebuilding of IJA divisions will eventually be a bane when the supplies go low

Also .. The Allies right now are

1) is wrong. You don't need 25,000 supplies to take replacements - just double required supply at the base.
2) is also wrong - Japanese replacements do not depend upon pools of devices.
3) is also wrong - if he saved a fragment, it will have whatever XP the unit had, and yes it will regress towards the national average (50) but it's not a given that it will drop all the way there.

But even assuming he didn't save anything from these units, the IJA is not out of the fight. Yes, this hurts him, but the IJA didn't vanish with these losses.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

The reason I feel the IJA is now removed is that they are so understrength I don´t have to take it into consideration going forward. I don´t have to fear a counter attack and prepare defenses. I don´t have to massively overprepp to be sure I bring enough which frees up a lot of troops going forward. The speeds up the tempo considerably.

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

Correct about supply but I have noticed that with my main replacement depot in India where I am rebuilding mostly shattered Chinese units that if my supply drops below a certain number (20k, 25K?) that my replacement rate will slow from daily replacements to replacements every two to three days. So, I pump the supply there and keep it above 30,000.

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Sub attack near Tandjoengselor at 68,95

Japanese Ships
TK Nisshin Maru #2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
TK Nisshin Maru
TK Kyokuyo Maru
PB Hakakisan Maru
PB Akagane Maru

Allied Ships
SS O19

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CVL Shoho is reported to have been sunk near San Francisco on Jan 24, 1943

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Actually, the comment stays even if you save over it with a new scenario. As in you could have a Scenario 30 game in one save slot, but then save over it with a Scenario 6 and it would show Scenario 6 even though it was actually 30.

Also, this can't really happen. Which scenario DB is being used is stored in the turn file itself. And if that DB varies from computer to computer, it will give you a warning message about database changes. If you aren't getting those messages, you're running the same version.