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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/9/2016 12:36:54 PM   
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I prefer the suicide steal. You'd better have that one figured out with your batter ahead of time, or you might end up with a face full of bat.


Or a interference with the catcher call.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/9/2016 3:43:28 PM   
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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/9/2016 3:58:23 PM   
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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/9/2016 4:03:06 PM   
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Haha, I really don´t understand half of this!

The great Yogi Berra said that baseball is 90% mental and the other half is physical.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/9/2016 4:27:59 PM   
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I love baseball but I don't understand half of it. :)


Good to hear!

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/9/2016 5:54:38 PM   
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I prefer the suicide steal. You'd better have that one figured out with your batter ahead of time, or you might end up with a face full of bat.


Or a interference with the catcher call.


Only if you collide on purpose... the onus is on the catcher nowadays anyway.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/9/2016 6:26:08 PM   
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I prefer the suicide steal. You'd better have that one figured out with your batter ahead of time, or you might end up with a face full of bat.


Or a interference with the catcher call.


Only if you collide on purpose... the onus is on the catcher nowadays anyway.

I thought the base runner had to avoid the fielder? Dunno. Remember lots of World Series controversy is all.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/10/2016 4:15:33 AM   
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I prefer the suicide steal. You'd better have that one figured out with your batter ahead of time, or you might end up with a face full of bat.


Or a interference with the catcher call.


Only if you collide on purpose... the onus is on the catcher nowadays anyway.

I thought the base runner had to avoid the fielder? Dunno. Remember lots of World Series controversy is all.


The catcher is now obligated to provide a free path to the plate, unless moving to catch the ball (supposedly thrown in from the field) takes him into the path of the runner.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/10/2016 12:14:39 PM   
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I prefer the suicide steal. You'd better have that one figured out with your batter ahead of time, or you might end up with a face full of bat.


Or a interference with the catcher call.


Only if you collide on purpose... the onus is on the catcher nowadays anyway.

I thought the base runner had to avoid the fielder? Dunno. Remember lots of World Series controversy is all.


The catcher is now obligated to provide a free path to the plate, unless moving to catch the ball (supposedly thrown in from the field) takes him into the path of the runner.


My point was on the hitter interfering with the catcher's ability to get to the incoming runner.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/10/2016 3:32:52 PM   
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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/10/2016 4:21:21 PM   
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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/10/2016 4:47:25 PM   
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I prefer the suicide steal. You'd better have that one figured out with your batter ahead of time, or you might end up with a face full of bat.


Or a interference with the catcher call.


Only if you collide on purpose... the onus is on the catcher nowadays anyway.

I thought the base runner had to avoid the fielder? Dunno. Remember lots of World Series controversy is all.


The catcher is now obligated to provide a free path to the plate, unless moving to catch the ball (supposedly thrown in from the field) takes him into the path of the runner.


My point was on the hitter interfering with the catcher's ability to get to the incoming runner.


Ah. I guess I should have specified whether left-handed or right-handed hitter.

I've actually considered doing it against some of the pitchers in my league. Almost everybody throws from the windup in certain situations with a runner on third, and my team is about 75% left-handed or switch hitters, including myself (gotta love Japanese baseball players). We don't use signals at all, but I would definitely want one for this situation. I really don't want a face full of bat.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/11/2016 11:03:14 AM   
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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/11/2016 12:15:09 PM   
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Ah. I guess I should have specified whether left-handed or right-handed hitter.

I've actually considered doing it against some of the pitchers in my league. Almost everybody throws from the windup in certain situations with a runner on third, and my team is about 75% left-handed or switch hitters, including myself (gotta love Japanese baseball players). We don't use signals at all, but I would definitely want one for this situation. I really don't want a face full of bat.


As only about 10% of humans are left-handed many/most who show up for baseball are steered into pitching if they have an interest. And as I'm an AL guy they don't bat, so I see relatively fewer left-handed hitters than you do. I've never looked at stats on switch-hitting between the leagues.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/11/2016 2:03:03 PM   
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Good AAR, been reading it for 2 days and it's very interesting!. Good luck in Dacca :)


Thanks!

Updates have been pretty sporadic lately. Hopefully it will get more frequent in the future. Especially when Jeffs other game finishes.

Pretty confident about Dacca. More worried about the North!

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/11/2016 2:20:41 PM   
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You can try and suck more of his forces north as you try to withdraw from Ledo.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/11/2016 3:29:38 PM   
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Ah. I guess I should have specified whether left-handed or right-handed hitter.

I've actually considered doing it against some of the pitchers in my league. Almost everybody throws from the windup in certain situations with a runner on third, and my team is about 75% left-handed or switch hitters, including myself (gotta love Japanese baseball players). We don't use signals at all, but I would definitely want one for this situation. I really don't want a face full of bat.


As only about 10% of humans are left-handed many/most who show up for baseball are steered into pitching if they have an interest. And as I'm an AL guy they don't bat, so I see relatively fewer left-handed hitters than you do. I've never looked at stats on switch-hitting between the leagues.


Of the 10 or so lefty/switch hitters on my team of about 15, only 2 are "true" lefties (also throw left). The rest grew up playing the Japanese style - think Ichiro. Batting lefty has two distinct advantages: most pitchers are righty, and you're 1.5 steps closer to first base. There's a third advantage that comes into play at my level, which is that pitchers see left-handed hitters less frequently than right-handed, so may be uncomfortable pitching to you and are therefore more likely to not do as well.

I don't know if they play cricket in Sweden, but I've seen it played around here. There are a few cricket fields (terminology?) in a park a couple of miles from my house, actually.

But uh... back to the war?

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/11/2016 3:42:56 PM   
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The north will become a tar baby for the Japanese when you are successful at Dacca, and pose a threat to Chittagong. A fighting withdrawal without secure supply lines won't be much fun.

You can try and suck more of his forces north as you try to withdraw from Ledo.


Yeah, I´m very happy about Japanese moving North.

There is even a slim chance I can hold there. 2 Indian IDs (around 50 EXP) + 3 Indian BDEs and a half strength armored BDE. Even have some arty. What is left of the RAF will try and rough the Japanese up a bit but its mostly for recon.

If he has 2 IDs it will be touch and go...if more I´ll end up with some mauled Indian units.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/11/2016 3:43:32 PM   
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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/11/2016 4:55:30 PM   
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Nothing to report in other theaters so will stick to India for now. Managed to get two turns done since the last update.

Our poor defenders at Ledo finally fell. They held out for way, way longer then I could ever hope.

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Ground combat at Ledo (65,38)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 38247 troops, 489 guns, 192 vehicles, Assault Value = 839

Defending force 11712 troops, 78 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 221

Japanese adjusted assault: 408

Allied adjusted defense: 65

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Ledo !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
491 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
5637 casualties reported
Squads: 211 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 232 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 30 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 28 (28 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 41 (40 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 9
Units destroyed 3


Quite amazingly it looks like Jeff is pursuing the defenders we at least a good portion of his troops! Good news for me.

In the center it looks like Jeff has spotted the danger and is abandoning Rajshashi. The 23rd Indian will liberate it while the center will push fast to secure the Rangpur area (the dot base on the rail 3 hexes NE of the Center Force). Armor and TDs will push ahead.

In the South the movement out of Dacca is deemed a ruse and Allied forces start moving directly for the base. Armor will move SE to cut the rail to Dacca and possible grab Comilla. If successful any reinforcements for Dacca will have a long way to walk.

The RAF and USAAF relocate to the newly constructed level 9 AF at Calcutta. I´ll try and nibble at some LRCAP if I can. Made a mistake and let the "R" BBs refuel at Colombo (forgot to switch to "Do not refuel". They of course instantly drained the fuel there. Had to divert the rest of the fleet to mainland India to refuel.

The Navy will start applying pressure here shortly. Force Z will lead the way together with the British CAs. I have a huge fondness for those guys. Quite to opposite to my feelings towards USN CAs...

Coming 2-3 weeks will be very important. Hopefully the Allies can prevail.

PS. Japanese troops strength is not confirmed but rather an estimate.




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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/11/2016 5:15:06 PM   
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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/11/2016 5:29:48 PM   
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Concur on Brit CAs. American CAs are for CV TFs. Leave the modern CLs to fight the naval battles. 4 Clevelands and 8 Fletchers is my favorite SC TF to create.

I use them for high speed bombardment purposes too. Paired with a DD of equal speed they scale up nicely.


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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/12/2016 7:11:41 AM   
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Very little happening here. Jeff bombs Bremerton from time to time but thats about it.

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Allies are very busy down here. The fleet is refitting while a lone CA TF keep on guard. After Belep was secured no Japanese patrols have been seen in the area.

A reinforcement TF for Luganville is inbound while small TFs shuttle troops around. Another 160k fuel started unloading at Auckland. More is incoming.

I decided to swap out Wasps TBs for some Marine fighters. I really need more TB training squadrons and Allied TBs are usually pretty "meh" to begin with.

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China
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With supply complete gone its just seal clubbing. Jeff will be in Chungking in 3-4 weeks.






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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/12/2016 7:31:18 AM   
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I had a nice graph going but Tracker went bonkers a few turns ago and I had to start over. Score is now 31073:9533 or 3,260:1. The ratio has been slowly dropping over the last few month from a peak of around 3,7:1.

Even though China will soon topple over I don´t think it will be enough for AV. I have still to expand Noumea which will give me around 500 more VPs.

Given the current situation I don´t think Jeff can manage AV in 43. Not unless something drastically changes like a huge naval battle where the allies lose most of the navy.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/12/2016 7:43:45 AM   
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Losses have been very light on both sides. Allies lost 7 slow BBs at PH and Lady Lex was sunk on the strike at Java. The allied Navy is in very good shape and getting stronger for each turn. This lull won´t last though. Both Jeff and I have been pretty defensive with the Navies. That will change before 42 is up I´m sure. At least the allies will be a lot more offensive. Especially in SOPAC and the IO.

BB Washington just arrived at Balboa. In contrast to the slow BB the fast ones are extremely useful.




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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/12/2016 3:33:43 PM   
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Concur on Brit CAs. American CAs are for CV TFs. Leave the modern CLs to fight the naval battles. 4 Clevelands and 8 Fletchers is my favorite SC TF to create.


Can you elaborate a bit? I have had very little luck with British CAs in naval battles. And their gun has less range (32 vs 31), effect (260 vs 256), and penetration (275 vs 180) than the US 8". I consistently saw some variation of "armor hit" against Japanese CLs and CAs (so penetration seems important). They do typically have better experience and the accuracy is much better (33 vs 50), so they hit a lot more... but I can't ever seem to get them to penetrate (especially the critical hull).

US CLs on the other hand are beasts. There guns have less range and effect, but more accuracy and even more penetration than the British CA guns. I'll purposely put them up against anything but a BB. Fletchers are worth their weight in gold.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/12/2016 4:34:34 PM   
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Concur on Brit CAs. American CAs are for CV TFs. Leave the modern CLs to fight the naval battles. 4 Clevelands and 8 Fletchers is my favorite SC TF to create.


Can you elaborate a bit? I have had very little luck with British CAs in naval battles. And their gun has less range (32 vs 31), effect (260 vs 256), and penetration (275 vs 180) than the US 8". I consistently saw some variation of "armor hit" against Japanese CLs and CAs (so penetration seems important). They do typically have better experience and the accuracy is much better (33 vs 50), so they hit a lot more... but I can't ever seem to get them to penetrate (especially the critical hull).

US CLs on the other hand are beasts. There guns have less range and effect, but more accuracy and even more penetration than the British CA guns. I'll purposely put them up against anything but a BB. Fletchers are worth their weight in gold.


Might be just a coincident but for me its been the other way around. Even modern CAs like Baltimores have been chewed up and then spit out but Japanese CAs even late in the war. British CAs have been doing very well for me though. Especially when backed up by US DDs. Preferably Fletchers!




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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/12/2016 5:34:39 PM   
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Concur on Brit CAs. American CAs are for CV TFs. Leave the modern CLs to fight the naval battles. 4 Clevelands and 8 Fletchers is my favorite SC TF to create.


Can you elaborate a bit? I have had very little luck with British CAs in naval battles. And their gun has less range (32 vs 31), effect (260 vs 256), and penetration (275 vs 180) than the US 8". I consistently saw some variation of "armor hit" against Japanese CLs and CAs (so penetration seems important). They do typically have better experience and the accuracy is much better (33 vs 50), so they hit a lot more... but I can't ever seem to get them to penetrate (especially the critical hull).

US CLs on the other hand are beasts. There guns have less range and effect, but more accuracy and even more penetration than the British CA guns. I'll purposely put them up against anything but a BB. Fletchers are worth their weight in gold.


Might be just a coincident but for me its been the other way around. Even modern CAs like Baltimores have been chewed up and then spit out but Japanese CAs even late in the war. British CAs have been doing very well for me though. Especially when backed up by US DDs. Preferably Fletchers!



I mean, the numbers for the device stats don't lie, to me... There are other factors:

Weather
TF commander
Ship commander
Ship experience
Damage levels on firing ship as well as target ship


The penetration point is a good one. I barely use the British CAs myself. I find them to be mostly relegated to AA duty, while I will typically bombard with USN CAs.

IJN ships all have high experience levels compared to USN ships. The British ships sometimes have good experience levels, but it depends. I think this accounts for much of the observed discrepancy. Once you take care of your USN ships on experience, they will perform as their device stats indicate.

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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/13/2016 5:18:12 AM   
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India continues to be the place where everything happens.

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Nothing. Allied slow BBs depart EC for the WC.

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Another fuel convoy reaches Auckland with 100k of fuel. Using mostly xAKs for this. I have a TF with 3 AOs arriving shortly. They will help keep the fleet refueled during operations.

Allies are spreading out in New Caledonia and the New Hebrides. A USN CA TF will cover a reinforcement convoy for Luganville. Mostly using short range xAKLs for hauling. Stacking limits make things a bit complicated here. Noumea is already maxed out at 35k so everything has to be hauled directly from OZ.

I´m topping off Hiva Oa, Tahiti and Pago Pago. I´ll also pull the engineers from Vavau. I havn´t really been using this base anyway. More engineers departed Balboa together with 2 CAT squadrons.

I decided to send Washington to the EC straight away for the 10/42 refit. I already have the North Carolina and South Dakota in SOPAC. Not sure a 3rd fast BB is really needed there at the moment. I´ll probably send Washington to CT to do the refits there and then reinforce Force Z.

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India
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I decided to sortie what is left of the RAF bombers to get some intel on the Japanese forces in Northern India. Only the 56th ID and parts of the 18th. This turned out to be moot as the Japanese are running away. After this is sent the bombers back to Madras. All squadrons are understrength and pools are non existant. Can´t afford another "bad day".

I´ve been sweeping a lot trying to capture Japanese LRCAP but no luck. Stood the fighters down to recover FAT. I´ll try some sweeps again in the south when they have recovered.

The 254th decided it was a good idea to not follow the rest of the troops into Dacca. Instead they went SE... They are now paying the price for leaving the AA cover while trying to get back. Luckily so far only 3 Stuarts are lost but most of the support is gone. They should shift hex next turn.

Ordered a bombardment of Dacca tomorrow. Fingers crossed I´ve estimated troops strength here correctly. More then 2000 AV here and I´ll have to rethink.

In the North we are in pursuit of fleeing Japanese forces. The race is on for Tezpur. My Northern and Center force will join up there giving my a total AV of around 2500. Most of the US armor and TDs are here which allows me to race ahead hopefully cutting the rail.

Still no sign of a Japanese withdrawal from India. This could indicate Jeff is confident he can hold Dacca. That in turn would be very bad news for the Allies as I have already committed my reserves for the area. I have some reserves at Bombay but I don´t dare release them for the East front. At least not yet.






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RE: Canada and India invaded! - 2/13/2016 6:23:37 AM   
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As for the rest of SOPAC Jeff hasn´t really done much (if anything) here. PM is very lightly garrisoned as is Milne Bay. I like going straight for PM rather then muck around in the Solomons. Especially true in this game as the Solomons are not even garrisoned.

If things remain stable here I´m looking at a PM invasion in late 42. Forces are already prepped and ready but I´m really dragging behind on base expansion. Engineers just arrived at Townsville, Cairns and Cooktown. Forts are already up but I need to get the port at Townsville ready and airfield at Cooktown and Cairns. Once that is done I can (hopefully) start moving stuff by sea rather then the slow walk.

I need a fighter strip at Portland Roads and preferably a 4E ready airfield at Cairns. 1st Australian division and 27th US division provides security at Townsville. Cairns and Cooktown have some armor, a brigade and CD guns.

As for the rest of SOPAC I could move a lot faster here but at the moment there is no rush. Japanese AV is still 10k VPs away.




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