Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Absolutly, if your guys aren't too beat up. But if they badly disrupted and fatigued, you'd better wait a couple of days. Next attack should definitely be shock unless he manages to reinforce.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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Sub attack near Norfolk Island at 113,171

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33, hits 1

Allied Ships
CV Saratoga, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Pensacola
CLAA San Diego
DD Morris
DD Lardner
DD Lansdowne

Fuel storage explosion on CV Saratoga
SS RO-33 launches 4 torpedoes at CV Saratoga
DD Morris fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lardner fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lansdowne attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

Yeah...my luck with Japanese SSNs continue to hold...my fault really. Didn´t have 20 CVEs with dedicated ASW groups on it. My own fault really.

Don´t know the damage yet but it will probably be the yards for her.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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Sub attack near Norfolk Island at 113,171

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33, hits 1

Allied Ships
CV Saratoga, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Pensacola
CLAA San Diego
DD Morris
DD Lardner
DD Lansdowne

Fuel storage explosion on CV Saratoga
SS RO-33 launches 4 torpedoes at CV Saratoga
DD Morris fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lardner fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Lansdowne attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

Yeah...my luck with Japanese SSNs continue to hold...my fault really. Didn´t have 20 CVEs with dedicated ASW groups on it. My own fault really.

Don´t know the damage yet but it will probably be the yards for her.

Japan has nuclear attack submarines?!

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JocMeister: I thought he would leave the hex this turn. Wonder if he accidently reset his movement or I counted wrong.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I suppose we've all experienced this: We almost win an attack on a high-end 1:1; the enemy is obviously cracking; the Computer tells us our units want to attack again; we order the attack; it comes off at 1:4 and really messes up our units.

At least I've experienced that alot, especially in my early days when I hardly paid attention to fatigue and disruption. I think F and D are the culprits.

So if your guys are 20 F/20 D or perhaps 30 F/30 D, I'd go for it, as a successful shock attack will maul his units (as you know). But if your guys are 60 F/60 D or something like that, you're asking for trouble.

Of course, I'm sure you know these things better than I do.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Japan has nuclear attack submarines?!

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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JocMeister: I thought he would leave the hex this turn. Wonder if he accidently reset his movement or I counted wrong.

No accident. I am pretty sure that when a unit is moving in combat mode or move mode and gets attacked, it cancels its move to defend itself. If there are a number of units in the hex, only those that get involved in the combat get knocked out of their move progress. I have always thought the loss of movement progress is quite unfair, given that IRL it might halt it's progress for a round to fight but would not go back many miles to the starting point to defend. All part of the abstracted hex movement calculations I guess.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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JocMeister: I thought he would leave the hex this turn. Wonder if he accidently reset his movement or I counted wrong.

No accident. I am pretty sure that when a unit is moving in combat mode or move mode and gets attacked, it cancels its move to defend itself. If there are a number of units in the hex, only those that get involved in the combat get knocked out of their move progress. I have always thought the loss of movement progress is quite unfair, given that IRL it might halt it's progress for a round to fight but would not go back many miles to the starting point to defend. All part of the abstracted hex movement calculations I guess.

No, they will retain their movement (to my knowledge), however they will be reset to Combat mode if they are not already in it.

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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JocMeister: I thought he would leave the hex this turn. Wonder if he accidently reset his movement or I counted wrong.

No accident. I am pretty sure that when a unit is moving in combat mode or move mode and gets attacked, it cancels its move to defend itself. If there are a number of units in the hex, only those that get involved in the combat get knocked out of their move progress. I have always thought the loss of movement progress is quite unfair, given that IRL it might halt it's progress for a round to fight but would not go back many miles to the starting point to defend. All part of the abstracted hex movement calculations I guess.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I suppose we've all experienced this: We almost win an attack on a high-end 1:1; the enemy is obviously cracking; the Computer tells us our units want to attack again; we order the attack; it comes off at 1:4 and really messes up our units.

At least I've experienced that alot, especially in my early days when I hardly paid attention to fatigue and disruption. I think F and D are the culprits.

So if your guys are 20 F/20 D or perhaps 30 F/30 D, I'd go for it, as a successful shock attack will maul his units (as you know). But if your guys are 60 F/60 D or something like that, you're asking for trouble.

Of course, I'm sure you know these things better than I do.

Last 2 attacks have bumped F/D a little bit too high for comfort so I probably shouldn´t attack. Besides Jeffs stack probably won´t be left next turn anyway. But if things look okay I´ll order the shock.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Japan has nuclear attack submarines?!

How else can they sneak through 30 radar equipped DDs to attack a target moving at 20-25 knots? Only explanation I have found to account for all the CV losses I have had to subs.

Only thing that seems to help is having 10-12 CVEs with dedicated ASW groups. Sadly I don´t have that many yet.

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Ground combat at Dacca (56,38)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 82455 troops, 1524 guns, 923 vehicles, Assault Value = 2295

Defending force 43785 troops, 552 guns, 229 vehicles, Assault Value = 867

Allied adjusted assault: 874

Japanese adjusted defense: 691

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3083 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 250 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 91 (28 destroyed, 63 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (8 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1558 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 156 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 41 (1 destroyed, 40 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

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ORIGINAL: obvert

Still worrying about Japanese sub infiltrations!?!

Good to see this going still. I'm no where near caught up. I'll try to stick with it for a few days to see what's happening.

Been playing a lot of H to H and notice how little F/D defenders take, even in 1:1 attacks. I've stopped attacking even after a 1:1 if F > 25 and D is > 15. Unless there is a massive accompanying bombardment, at least.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

I ordered the shock attack. If anyone thinks its insanity you still have about 30 mins to speak up!

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ORIGINAL: tiemanj

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

I ordered the shock attack. If anyone thinks its insanity you still have about 30 mins to speak up!

I vote go for it. Not because I think it is a good idea, but because I have no idea and want to see what happens.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

I ordered the shock attack. If anyone thinks its insanity you still have about 30 mins to speak up!

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Aoba Island at 121,150, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Busho Maru, Shell hits 29, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Bagley, Shell hits 1
DD Blue

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister


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Saratoga
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Turns out I was very lucky. Nothing major but I will need a trip to the yards. Question is if I do the repairs here in OZ or send her to the WC...time wise it might not be much difference. But if I repair her in OZ the Sydney repair yard will be occupied for a good while...

10/42 updates are less then a month away too....it adds 1000+ AAA value so its not one to skip.

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ORIGINAL: venividivici10044a

I think it makes more sense to make for Sydney; its a big ocean to cross with lots of subs waiting for you outside the big ports I surmise.

?Do you have any thoughts of what your opponent is up to outside of CBI? Any plans to retake Hawaii?

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ORIGINAL: JeffK

I may have an idea though.

Has CR been doing a recce for you??