Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Hehe, yeah you did. Problem with letting him come to me in LA is that he is never going to attack there though. He doesn´t even have half the raw AV. Its x3 terrain and he knows for sure there are forts there. Just not how many. So he is not going to attack. He is just trying (successfully) to block me in.

I´ll attack again next turn. I´ll grind him down eventually as I can recover and cycle troops in and out. He can´t.

Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example.

Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no.

Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point.

I have no experience with this point so I want to confirm: have the factories at LA and SD that produce aircraft ceased production, or are they still pumping out birds?

I don't see why they wouldn't? The only things that don't are apparently HI, but also Resources/Oil.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example.

Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no.

Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point.

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ORIGINAL: witpqs
I have no experience with this point so I want to confirm: have the factories at LA and SD that produce aircraft ceased production, or are they still pumping out birds?

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ORIGINAL: IJV
I think specifically the problem is supply at San Diego - namely that there isn't, in the grand scheme of things, very much of it (iirc 50k on D+2 of the invasion? can't remember what was posted), so being passive elsewhere would tend to lead to that becoming a potential Problem very quickly (or at least more so than it will as things stand).

Which, of course, begs the question - how's that situation now ?

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

To my knowledge I never said SD was fine. I said I *think* its fine but its not something to take chances on. Besides my attacks have been going quite well at LA. Doing at least the same amount of damage I suffered. This obviously is the exception. But not unexpected considering only 2 divisions attacked.

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ORIGINAL: jwolf

The 3 Jap cruisers probably aren't really sunk, but they are at least useless for any more of the West Coast campaign. So strategically they're down 3 good ships.

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Morning Air attack on Santa Ana , at 226,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 56
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 19
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

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Ground combat at Los Angeles (225,76)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 89835 troops, 1820 guns, 4141 vehicles, Assault Value = 3151

Defending force 66499 troops, 876 guns, 812 vehicles, Assault Value = 1535

Allied adjusted assault: 2041

Japanese adjusted defense: 4369

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1860 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 157 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 35 disabled
Guns lost 143 (10 destroyed, 133 disabled)
Vehicles lost 51 (16 destroyed, 35 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2063 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 139 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 43 disabled
Guns lost 51 (4 destroyed, 47 disabled)
Vehicles lost 107 (8 destroyed, 99 disabled)

Assaulting units:
6th Armoured Division
40th Infantry Division
5th Armoured Division
8th Motorized Division
7th Motorized Division
4th Motorized Division
41st Infantry Division
13th Armoured Division
3rd Marine Division
2nd Armored Division
Provisional Tank Brigade
603rd Coast AA Regiment
LA Harbor Defense
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
3rd USN Naval Construction Regiment
214th Coast AA Regiment
19th Base Maint Engineer Battalion
503rd Coast AA Regiment
181st Field Artillery Battalion
21st US Naval Construction Battalion
188th Field Artillery Battalion
24th MAG
37th US Naval Construction Battalion
144th Field Artillery Regiment
204th Coast AA Regiment
21st Base Maint Engineer Battalion
511th Coast AA Regiment
352nd Construction Regiment
29th USN Special Construction Battalion
Los Angeles USN Base Force
54th Coastal Artillery Regiment
168th Field Artillery Battalion
165th Field Artillery Battalion
I US Corps
II USA Corps

Defending units:
12th Division
9th Division
2nd Tank Division
1st Division
16th Division
6th Guards Division
1st Air Defense AA Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
3rd Air Defense AA Regiment
12th Ind.AA Gun Co
8th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
15th Air Defense AA Regiment
7th Air Defense AA Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th RF Gun Battalion
11th RF Gun Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
22nd Fld AA Gun Co
2nd Air Defense AA Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Rgt /1

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ORIGINAL: paullus99

Hmmmm....he has time for his "Downfall" game.

A real shame that he appears to be letting this game slide, just when it was getting interesting.