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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/20/2015 8:20:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Metz falls and causes losses to Germany. Germany counts on turn to continue and disorganizes divisions that use oil.

Edit: French bomber is overrun and destroyed.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/20/2015 8:24:22 PM   
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I really hope the last roll is the highest, far above average...




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/20/2015 8:27:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dice give, dice take. The gamble paid off! I thought I had a little better odds that +6,5. Very good I did not know, I might have aborted this invasion...




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/20/2015 8:30:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Japs keep getting lucky. Aborting Trans in intercepted on a 3 (Allied rolled 3 also).

In surface combat Trans sinks.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/20/2015 8:35:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Japan rebases G3M2 to Fukuoka and FTR + bomber from central China to Manchuria.

On a 4 turn continues.

On a 9 winter finally arrives. Looks like turn is about to end soon too.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/21/2015 12:55:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I assume Germany had advancing armor into France in that attack that resulted in a breakthrough? Have a new map of the French-German front?

I don't think I need to mention how important taking Vlad was? That should put a damper on USSR sub effectiveness.

Turn end is at 50%...you never know...got that Alpine unit ready?

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/21/2015 4:58:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Germany was cautious in fear of desperate counter attack. I also forgot to move AA gun to Metz and I was thinking France could sacrifice INF to attack against it if I leave hex empty between German AA gun and French HQ. In same hex with AA gun there is a disorganized FTR-3. So Germany advanced only one hex.

Alpine unit is in Belgium, disorganized at the moment.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/21/2015 10:40:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, good attacks in France and with Vladivostok kaput, Russia might be getting nervous. Bet there was a big sigh of relief on that one. You would think two Inf should have been enough in Vladivostok.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/27/2015 3:33:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WIF_Killzone

You would think two Inf should have been enough in Vladivostok.


Not when the dice gods appear to be making it so just about every crucial die roll goes exactly as the Axis needs it. This unceasing diet of near perfect Axis impulses is getting rather tiresome and making Allied play somewhat pointless.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/27/2015 3:58:27 PM   
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N/D 39 Allies 9

No DoW

USSR, China, France Land, rest combined.

CW sends out 2 CP to maximise production. 2 French CP's that were supposed to be shipping the Senegal resource were being hijacked by CW resources.

Soviet Cav joins the main bulk of the forces in Manchuria. Chinese move a couple of units. Manchester Mil goes to Liverpool.

China after movement.






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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/27/2015 4:01:00 PM   
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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/27/2015 4:05:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		P-40 rebases to Malta.

No re orgs.

Turn continues on a 6.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/27/2015 8:17:17 PM   
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No DoW

All choose land. Japan wanted to choose combined and send one CP to China Sea but Chinese CAV forces to choose land.

Japan rails MIL to Manchuria. Italy rails MIL to Genoa.

Italy advances to southern France. Germany captures Vichy. No land combat in France, Germany was able to make +5 assault or +3 blitz.

Japan recaptures Wuhan, on a 1 US gets mad once again.

I had multiple crashes during land movement in China. Looks like problems come after capturing Wuhan with INF HQ, problem is solved when Wuhan is taken as last land move.

Germany rebases Bf109 to front line. Japan rebases NAV to Shanghai and FTR by one hex in Manchuria.

Turn ends on a 6. No partisans.

Do USSR want to put marker on defense or offence?

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/27/2015 8:20:17 PM   
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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/27/2015 8:28:33 PM   
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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/27/2015 8:41:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		US puts entry chit in Jap pool. This gives 4 in GE/It and 3 in Jap. Entry Actions chosen are intern the French CV, which is replaced with a Trans (7 rolled no tension increase), Embargo on Strategic Materials (10 rolled, no tension increase) and Resources to Western Allies (9 rolled, no tension increase).

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 1:39:45 AM   
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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 4:16:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

New map of France?


Here you go.

An AAR at last showing how, with a favourable run of the dice, "Fall Gelb" can work quite nicely.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 4:43:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		For a "Fall Gelb" to work nicely, you don't need any where as nice of dice rolls. Fall Gelb works with average rolls, but takes longer...this is what it looks like in M/J'40.

Also, there was no CW commitment to France at all, which is very rare. France moving into Brussels surprised me since there was a lack of Allied units (perhaps with a strong CW commit it would have been ok).

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 5:05:30 PM   
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For a "Fall Gelb" to work nicely, you don't need any where as nice of dice rolls. Fall Gelb works with average rolls, but takes longer...this is what it looks like in M/J'40.

Also, there was no CW commitment to France at all, which is very rare. France moving into Brussels surprised me since there was a lack of Allied units (perhaps with a strong CW commit it would have been ok).


The lack of CW commitment to the continent was another product of the favourable dice rolls. One loaded Trans sunk and another damaged after successive adverse naval searches led to one corps destroyed and one shattered and back on the reinforcement track for the N/D 39 turn. Hence, no BEF in Europe in S/O 39 and no capacity to move in replacements as the remaining Trans had completed their own missions for the turn. By N/D 39 it was too late to make a difference as the damage already had been done to the French line.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 5:37:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		The attempt to transport CW units into France went through the North Sea? I saw there was a lot of CW activity in the Med?

The biggest die rolls were the weather die rolls...which can and I have seen happen several times in games I have played in (it seems to not be rare...I don't know the actual math/stats). When that happens S/O and N/D '39 and you are the Axis and not poised for Fall Gelb, you kick yourself. Germany should always be ready for that opportunity.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 5:54:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, the attempt went through the North Sea and while there was CW activity in the Med, all bar one of the CV's (the one that starts in the East) and several BB's/CA's committed to escort the Trans in the North Sea. The choice of North Sea was to keep the option of deploying to Holland or Belgium open. The search rolls were that adverse Mayhemizer was able to both pick combat type and select first target. In hindsight, the mistake was to move them out on the first Allied impulse, with the rest of the navy. I should have held them back until the 2nd Allied impulse and waited to see where to send them. Mind you, the net effect of that would have been a CV lost and another damaged assuming the same search rolls. Also, no guarantee the adverse rolls wouldn't have continued and the Trans still have been sunk/damaged before landing the troops.

The safe option, but forgoing the opportunity of a deployment to Holland or Belgium, would be to land them on the French west coast and hope to be able to march them into position before the Germans start knocking lumps out of the thin French line.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 7:12:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would say Germany is in current position mostly thank to weather rolls. Most attacks were with pretty good odds and there was no disaster rolls. Losses have been minimal (no losses with land units in S/O 1939).

Here is destroyed units during N/D 1939.

I'm still a newbie, but this has been my best start with Germany and I will dream about this every time I play with Germany in the future.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 7:54:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		The problem some CW players make is try to force stuff through the North Sea. I realize if you want to put something in Rotterdam/Antwerp you have to do this, but you have to take into account the risks. The main thing CW needs to do is get units into France to be on the main front line...the more the better. Rotterdam/Antwerp is secondary.

I prefer to see the CW put a powerful naval force into the highest box possible in the North Sea on their first turn and try to sink/intercept everything the Germans put there (but no TRS sitting out there). As for getting things directly into France...you can do this port to port even in Brest, and then on the same turn move that unit forward (combined). Normally the Germans do not have much to intercept with in the North Sea and you can move port to port there...and you can escort port to port as well.

Keep in mind the big picture and establish primary, secondary, etc...goals. I saw a lot of activity and focus in the Med, as I mentioned, all of that is only temporary until the Axis decide you have to go. Of course you might be able to take your opponent off where his focus should be (France).

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 9:37:55 PM   
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No scrap for Axis.

Production:

Germany 13
ARM HQ
2x MIL
Sub (1st)

Italy 5
Sub (repair)
Pilot
NAV-2

Japan 8
2x TER
MIL
2x CP

No Allied breakdowns or scrap, except one Dutch CL for CW.

China 5
Inf
Mil

CW 13
Amph 1st
CP
CV Victorious 2nd
Inf
CVP-1 x2
Pilot

France 8
Mil
Inf x2

US 10
CV 1st
Amph 1st
CVP-0
Nav-3
Pilot

USSR 14
Lnd-4
Pilot
Mil x2
Mtn

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 9:50:16 PM   
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Why not send every BP/resource France has to CW?...France is about to fall. No need to respond since there could be other reasons I can guess at. Just throwing that out there...

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 10:02:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Belgium and Poland conquered by Germany. Tunisia and Kenya by Italy. Sardinia by CW.

Belgium government relocates to Belgium Congo.

Germany modifies trade to Italy to 6 resources.

US sends 2 oil to CW.

Initiative Axis 9, Allies 9. At Axis +1, no re-roll for Allies. Axis go first.

First, a look at the weather. Die roll was a 3 at +2.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/28/2015 10:08:13 PM   
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I don't mean to nit pick or be a pest, but I will anyway

Why not send every BP/resource France has to CW?...France is about to fall. No need to respond since there could be other reasons I can guess at. Just throwing that out there...


Did consider it but it would use just about the entire CP reserve the CW/France have, leaving nothing to replace losses.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/29/2015 5:05:18 PM   
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No DoW

Germany land, Japan and Italy combined

West Med: Italian Nav to box 4 and German Nav to box 3.

China Sea: Japanese Nav to box 4 and another Nav drops down to box 0. CVL, 2x CL and AMPH to box 3, AMPH loads Mil from Formosa.

Sea of Japan: 2x Trans to Box 1 loaded with MIL and AT gun.

Italian subs to Cape St. Vincent box 3 and Cape Verde Basin box 2.

Italy goes for it, first in West Med.

CW can fly 2 bombers (I guess they are not flying as there are no Axis ships) on P-40 to Box 0 or 1. Do CW fly any planes?




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/29/2015 5:13:31 PM   
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