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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/10/2015 7:44:49 PM

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S/O Axis 7

No DoW

Japan aligns Siam, on a 5 US ignores.

Japan and Italy combined, Germany land

Japan sends 2 Trans and a CL loaded with 2x MAR and ENG (escorted by 5 CL's) to China Sea box 2. Amph and Trans takes INF HO and MIL to Shanghai.

Italy initiates combat in West Med. Do Hampden want to join or is there a secret bombing mission coming against Italian only oil resource?

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/10/2015 7:56:43 PM

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D'oh, who's been blabbing? After all those posters I put up too.

Hampden stays on the ground.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/10/2015 8:11:59 PM

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Nice poster

Axis 9, Allies 8 no combat in West Med.

Germany rails MIL to Copenhagen.

Japan moves 2 land units in Central China and one to Yenan.

Italy moves 2 land units in northern Italy.

Germany moves land units in western Europe but decides not to attack this time.

Germany rebases Bf109 to Antwerp.

Italy rebases Macchi to protect precious oil. Yes, (if needed) it will intercept, shoot down Hampden and land to same hex.

On a 8 turn continues.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/10/2015 8:58:36 PM

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Well next time for the BEF use a combined, move the TRS escorted out and land Gort + 2 units from the North Sea in the same impulse, no risk to lose land troops too this way.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/10/2015 9:05:31 PM

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Well next time for the BEF use a combined, move the TRS escorted out and land Gort + 2 units from the North Sea in the same impulse, no risk to lose land troops too this way.

Yes. I was trying to keep my options open as to whether they landed in Holland or France only for the naval searches to go catastrophically bad.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/10/2015 9:20:51 PM

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But you can land still in 1 impulse anyhow - in anywhere the Germans do not arrive. You exposed your TRS to a free risk in my eyes. And in this game I've learnt that even a +18 attack can go very wrong if you roll a 2 or 3, so ... (Because ... it's like ... half of 12 troops attacking it's 6 troops flipped for instance).

In general it did not changed you much (especially with so few land units to move) to keep them in port and sail them out at the 3 box with escorts in a combined, with 0 risks whatsoever, and land where you need. And when you wanted.
That is what I am saying.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/10/2015 9:33:54 PM

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S/O 39 Allies 9

France declares war on Italy.

USSR claims Bessarabia. Do the Germans allow the claim?

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/10/2015 9:38:14 PM

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quote:

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But you can land still in 1 impulse anyhow - in anywhere the Germans do not arrive. You exposed your TRS to a free risk in my eyes. And in this game I've learnt that even a +18 attack can go very wrong if you roll a 2 or 3, so ... (Because ... it's like ... half of 12 troops attacking it's 6 troops flipped for instance).

In general it did not changed you much (especially with so few land units to move) to keep them in port and sail them out at the 3 box with escorts in a combined, with 0 risks whatsoever, and land where you need. And when you wanted.
That is what I am saying.

Yes, in hindsight I realised I should have left the Trans and units in port and just put the escorts to sea on that first impulse. The second Allied impulse would then determine where they could go, using the combined impulse.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 2:31:16 AM

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USSR can take Bessarabia.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 11:03:55 AM

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Good to see this AAR continuing. As a far from perfect player myself I always like it when players makes errors. It always means surprises and opportunities arise that can mean the games path cascades into unforeseen avenues. With out them a lot of the games would be very similar. It also brings out the best in the players as they are forced to think on their feet and readjust previously laid out plans. That's a real test of a player

And after all, the real war was full of errors, counter errors and fudges as well.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 4:41:35 PM

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Hi Dogfax,

Thanks for the support. "Errors, counter-errors and fudges"; Shhh, don't say too much more. You're giving away my strategy.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 5:21:11 PM

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Bessarabia is handed over to Russian control.

On a 5, the French DoW removes one chit from the Ge/It US entry pool.

All combined except China land and France naval.

With plans for the secret mission having somehow reached the enemy, the Hampdens decide to go sea fishing instead and head to the West Med 3-box. They are joined by CV Berne, 3 BB's and 2 CA's. 2 more CL/CA's take up station in the 4-box and 2 in the 1-box. 2 BB's and 4 CA/CL sail to Italian Coast 3-box (I'm presuming the Italians wouldn't want to intercept) while another CL goes to the 4-box.

Another US sub arrives at Midway.

A French CL initiates the searches which go allies 2, Axis 6. Both sides find each other.

A naval air combat ensues. Rolls of Axis 12 AC and Allies 14 AA. Where does the Italian Nav wish to abort to?

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 5:25:03 PM

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La spezia please.

We received false information about Hampden...

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 5:34:30 PM

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AA rolls of 8,5,1,1,9 reduce bombs by 1. 2 of the 3 surprise points used to increase damage.

The Trento will need some yard-time. Another round?

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 5:39:15 PM

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One more please

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 5:51:26 PM

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Searches Allies 2, Axis 1.

The Allies go for another naval air combat. The French F4F joins in as a bomber. The Italians put up a furious AA barrage (9,9,6,10,10).The Hampdens retire to the pavilion and the F4F's scatter their bombs wildly.

Another round?

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 5:53:01 PM

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Yes please. I liked that one

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 5:57:12 PM

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The French decide to commit subs this time.

Searches Allies 1, Axis 9.

8 surprise points used to increase damage. How do the Italians wish to share it out?

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 6:03:35 PM

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Nice, after this Italy aborts to La Spezia. I pushed my luck little too far...

I'm typing with phone. Please place damages starting from best defense value. Don't place any damage to damaged ships. I want them damaged, not destroyed.

Edit 1st X to CL

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 6:07:35 PM

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Final reckoning.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 6:19:33 PM

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Good. Abort to La Spezia. No problem even CL did not take hit, I think I edited a bit too late. Keep going.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 6:29:56 PM

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Having put all the surprise points into increasing damage, there is, of course, the cost.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 6:56:30 PM

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Mao and 1st Inf move adjacent to the Jap 12th Inf.

Nationalist 1st Cav moves to Wuhan.

1 land combat, which Mao adds support to. Assault table?

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 6:57:44 PM

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Yes please, assault it is

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 7:03:55 PM

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The Communists manage a 1 for 1 exchange.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 7:08:52 PM

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No air rebases or reorgs.

Turn continues on a 10.

Weather roll is an 8.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 7:47:06 PM

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It always seems to me that subconsciously when playing the naval engagements we all get a more "just one more will do it" mind set... Its the gambler in us that says, we had a good result maybe we can get another, when we all know deep down the dice will bite us on the backside at some point.
Naval engagements seem to have more of a risk factor in them. you have the search rolls which can massively change the outcome, and then the damage rolls as well. At least in land combats its just one roll that can screw you over

Looks like the Chinese are fighting back! Surely the IJN can bring some of their landlubbing cousins over to help? Or have they got bigger fish to fry?

The French navy is always an issue as well. As an axis player part of my thinks maybe a beeline for all the ports to try and capture as many as possible could be an option, but I have never been brave enough to try it

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 7:51:12 PM

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Germany allows Hungary and Bulgaria take Transylvania and South Dobruja from Rumania.

Germany aligns Hungary, on a 3 US draws one chit.

No DoW.

All go with land.

French units in Brussels are safe thanks to rain.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 9/11/2015 8:23:39 PM

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Germany rails GAR from Karslruhe to Denmark, INF from Denmark to Saarbrucken and INF div from Denmark to La Spezia Italy.

Japanese units move few hexes in northern and central China.

Italian units that are not using oil move to Tunisia. 2 units move hex or two in French border. Italian TER moves to Kenya.

3 Japanese units (ENG, 2x MAR) debarks to China.

Germany did not use O-chit and Brussels odds where +4,1. I didn't dare to try that (21% chance to take it). Instead in frustration I decided to gamble with Mech.

Roll was good. Actually good enough to take Brussels... Next time I'll take it.