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Found original Western and Eastern Front CDs - how to g... - 10/11/2015 8:56:48 PM

Tim F

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Hi, I just found the original cds for Western Front and Eastern Front, from the days (well, actually, probably years) before they were bundled together into the Campaign Series. Is there any way I can get them up and running? My Windows 10 PC just about recognises that a cd has been inserted and shows the data contained therein but it doesn't start loading the files. Can they be made to work with a patch of some sort or do I have to spend out again?
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Tim

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RE: Found original Western and Eastern Front CDs - how ... - 10/12/2015 2:08:16 AM

budd

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someone will correct me if i'm wrong but the original disks cant be updated with any Matrix patch. Whether or not someone can give you any tips to get them running on Win 10 is another matter. They just released a new CS game Middle East a couple of weeks ago, excellent game, not WW2 though.

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RE: Found original Western and Eastern Front CDs - how ... - 10/12/2015 4:38:18 AM

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The original Talonsoft discs? No, I don't believe so. They are a different game, developed for W95. A different DRM too, IIRC the CD needed to be in bay while playing. So moving from WF to EF meant changing and loading a different disc.

Matrix version on other hand works as a bundle, and there's a Main Menu to move between the bundled games.

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RE: Found original Western and Eastern Front CDs - how ... - 10/12/2015 5:13:40 AM

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The Last Talonsoft was the Gold Edition for 98/XP. It has all three games and runs well. I am investing in an another XP because I have so many games that won't convert. I've been rebuying them all for Windows 7 Pro. It's running into money. I keep a 95 and 98 working for old games and the XP version won't work on either. 98 version won't work on anything newer than XP as far as I know, so the 95 version would be really tough. I don't think the video card in your 10 would work with it. I had to step into the brave new world of the Matrix Edition for the second time. I think they have had it eight years? Can't remember. The old Talonsofts were load and play though others have said they had problems-I did not have one with any Talonsoft versions.
I would not give yourself a hard time getting the 95 version to work. It played, but stick with the new version. It's come a long way and it's a better game. One more upgrade is planned I think. Middle East is great-few bugs, but it's really great also. I may buy an XP and load the old one for kicks, but the new game is miles better. The Aachen scenario is a masterpiece and you will use about everything an army has to win it. The engineers alone are extremely important and for about everything. It's a blast blowing up walls and easily building bridges (relatively). The combat engineers have come such a long way. Do you really want to go through trying to find the damn boats or rafts on the engineer vehicles? It was a pain. I was the hardest to convert but man has Jason worked hard on HAL over the years. I think everyone is running it fine (The Matrix Version that includes Windows 7) on Windows 10 from what I've heard. I was hard to convert and a pain in poor Jason's backside. Last game, I played 80 turns of flawless running game. If you find a bug, Jason can usually fix it for you. I was missing the Aachen Map. Sent a zip to me an hour later. Boom. Playing.
The T-Gold Ed for 98/XP included Sea Lion and the works. Best running of the older ones and you did not have to load the disc, as with 95.

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