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RE: December 1942 - 6/13/2016 6:49:41 PM   
jwolf

 

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Status: offline 		Stef will have to answer that for a true answer; my speculation is that for much of 1942 Stef has been on the defensive and scrambling to react to some powerful and occasionally devastating German thrusts. Sometimes you can't sort out the mess until the mud season when the fighting finally cools down.

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RE: December 1942 - 6/13/2016 7:22:56 PM   
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Stef will have to answer that for a true answer; my speculation is that for much of 1942 Stef has been on the defensive and scrambling to react to some powerful and occasionally devastating German thrusts. Sometimes you can't sort out the mess until the mud season when the fighting finally cools down.

You're fully right.

I suffered 3 pockets, got "fronts" broken into several parts, extracted one whole front from Moscow area and spread it in 2 parts....

It's not efficient but I was already happy to survive the 1942's summer.

I will keep this "bad" structure during the next weeks as I'm always short of AP's. Then russian army will become progressively more "well organized"

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December 1942 - 6/13/2016 7:34:27 PM   
STEF78


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Several areas of the front benefit of bloodbaths.... we are in a WWI war period.

Leningrad

New victory for the 55th army... 188K men and 3400 guns were required!



Kursk

Small ground gains



Stalingrad

A too hard nut...



Astrakhan

Italians slowly retreating to Roma



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December 1942 - 6/14/2016 3:37:11 PM   
STEF78


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1942 will end within 2 weeks and we attack and counter attack in several parts of the front. The main struggle takes place near Kursk.

We suffered heavy german counterattacks, included one with more than 1500 AFV



But we keep on attacking



Some TOE are changing, for example rifle corps below. I will spare some men



Air units TOE has also increaed from 20 to 32 planes per unit. It will allow us to achieve air superiority (+ 3500 first line planes)



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RE: December 1942 - 6/14/2016 8:41:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		That was a brutal counterattack losses wise for the soviets....It really seems the newer patches are finally getting losses closer to right.

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RE: December 1942 - 6/15/2016 2:11:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		It probably hit their morale hard, too. The men can be replaced; the morale is a lot more difficult to get or keep high.

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RE: December 1942 - 6/17/2016 7:09:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chaos45

That was a brutal counterattack losses wise for the soviets....It really seems the newer patches are finally getting losses closer to right.

sure but fortunately 1500 AFV doesn't represent the standard counterattack

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RE: December 1942 - 6/17/2016 7:10:43 PM   
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It probably hit their morale hard, too. The men can be replaced; the morale is a lot more difficult to get or keep high.

True but most of my units are 3/7 points below the normal morale level so it's less worrying than losing morale points above this level.

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December 1942 - 6/17/2016 7:21:45 PM   
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Last day of 1942, week after week, I'm able to gather more and more guns on the front line. 1943 will be interesting!



Near Stalingrad, I get my first significant victory despite a full div mot reserve activation



In the Caucasus, my brave soldiers still resist to the fascists

!

And the OOB



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January 1943 - 6/19/2016 2:06:25 PM   
STEF78


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Terra incognita! it's a curious feeling for me. I never reached 1943 as russian player. I lost or won before this year.

We are now at a stage where red army is growing but is not strong enough to push the germans back on a large scale. So we will have several weeks of "low" intensity fights. Each turn I create 1/2 rifle corps, 1 art div, several sapper régiments and air units.

In fact I think that Bobo could have tempted a winter offensive to Tula and Kaluga, gaining some complementary buffer . My line were strong but his offensive power was stronger. Now it's too late...

My main question now is what do I do before spring? Continuing some minor fights? Creating a "guards rifle corps ball" in a single place? Or waiting and sparing my units?

At the moment I benefit from new ratios



Leningrad

I'm facing a wall



Kursk

Without reserve activations, fights are won



Stalingrad

Some figts on the southern bank of the Volga, crushing the Romanians...



Caucasus

Fleeing through the moutains...



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RE: January 1943 - 6/19/2016 3:57:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		By leningrad the terrain is bad for tanks really....which is why I never committed any tank corps or Cav corps to that area when I battled Pelton---however I did have alot of guard rifle corps and artillery divisions and in general the slow grinding offensive those give you is enough to grind down that area. It takes time but once the finnish lose several battles they start to become combat ineffective since they get lower morale south of leningrad.

Tank/cav corps ground is the south really its where you can take advantage of mobility and the Germans dont have as much terrain to double and triple their combat strength. Its why the Germans typically strike in the south in 1942 as fortified soviets in bad terrain in the north/center are really poor attack choices. The some goes for the Soviets in 1943 on---and I think you see this historically...in the center most soviet offensives in 1943 were horrible failures and only in the open ground in the south did they really "win" The success in the south then weakened german reserves in the center enough that in mid 1944 a massive soviet offensive actually succeeded. Terrain should help dictate the battle and it really does in the game if you use it right and analyze it well. Both on the defense and on the offense dont underestimate how much terrain can affect outcomes.

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RE: January 1943 - 6/19/2016 8:58:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		You're right.

I have one tank corps in the nortth and it will be effectively better used South of Kaluga.

But I will keep some pressure in the north.

Bobo is very strong from Kaluga to Voronejh and around Stalingrad. I will try him to feel unsecure in all parts of the front.


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January 1943 - 6/21/2016 8:54:24 PM   
STEF78


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Nothing spectacular, my army is still growing and I'm maintaining some pressure on the german frontline. Some samples below

Bryansk

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't....



Kursk

Berlin will be reached before 1965....



Astrakhan

Some action on a secondary theater


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RE: January 1943 - 6/22/2016 2:38:36 PM   
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Berlin will be reached before 1965....


I think you'll do all right, but it will take a long time before the German lines start showing a lot of pressure.

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January 1943 - 6/24/2016 8:07:46 PM   
STEF78


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No focus on Kursk this week, let's travel along other parts of the front

Novgorod
Terrain favors the defender... but not enough



Bryansk

2 german divs expelled!



Stalingrad

Some firepower here too but the german Pzd are close



And the OOB, approaching 8M men


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February 1943 - 7/2/2016 10:15:03 AM   
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Nothing spectacular for 2 monthes, I trying to dig in the german front line and then to enlarge the hole.

German mobile units are much stronger than mine so I will not be able to reach ambitious goals before at least summer.

Novgorod

Even unentrenched german units in good defensive terrain can be hard to push back



Bryansk

This time it worked



Voronezh

Clear terrain favors the attacker... woaw! decisive comment after more than 4 years playing WITE...



Orel

Another grinding place but reserve activation makes it harder



Astrakhan

A weak russian army is beating weak italians


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RE: February 1943 - 7/2/2016 10:56:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good even game.

Nice to see allot of people finally enjoying games into 43.

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RE: February 1943 - 7/2/2016 1:07:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pelton

Good even game.

Nice to see allot of people finally enjoying games into 43.

thanks

no spoil, but you will see that the german army can still bite in 1943 against an uncautious russian player

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RE: February 1943 - 7/2/2016 1:29:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: STEF78

Clear terrain favors the attacker... woaw! decisive comment after more than 4 years playing WITE...




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RE: February 1943 - 7/3/2016 9:53:49 AM   
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no spoil, but you will see that the german army can still bite in 1943 against an uncautious russian player


I have been preparing the surprise for 3-4 weeks and I am really happy that my "camouflage" paid off. These small joys make fun game even most of the front is static(and boring I guess for both of us) for last couple of months.

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February 1943 - 7/5/2016 7:12:22 AM   
STEF78


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Always the same areas involved in fights. This will continue till mud but now I have decided a plan for spring/summer offensive. Fights will continue but behind, I will prepare this strategical move

Bryansk

47k german expelled from the woods...



Kursk/Voronejh

Some counterattacks near Voronejh. A single german inf in clear terrain is an easy prey.



Baku

Some german units are leaving this area. I suppose that they will reinforce Astrakhan



Astrakhan

Grinding is on




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February 1943 - 7/5/2016 9:31:19 PM   
STEF78


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Rifle corps



Art units


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February 1943 - 7/8/2016 8:28:57 PM   
STEF78


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Always fights in several parts of the front. Below the Kursk Voronejh area



But recon has shown something interesting: Pzd in reserve are gone away north of Stalingrad



And the OOB. Russians are above 8M men


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RE: February 1943 - 7/8/2016 8:39:24 PM   
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But recon has shown something interesting: Pzd in reserve are gone away north of Stalingrad


Obviously he's preparing for the Kursk offensive in the summer.

It's disappointing how few losses the Germans take even while losing a battle.

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RE: February 1943 - 7/8/2016 8:46:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jwolf
Obviously he's preparing for the Kursk offensive in the summer.

He is preparing an offensive.... but not in Kursk
Guess where

quote:


It's disappointing how few losses the Germans take even while losing a battle.

2700 guns, 10/1 in men and 370 AFv on my side the a retreat...and 4% of the strength lost... something weird effectively.


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February 1943 - 7/9/2016 6:44:15 PM   
STEF78


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Let's post the evolution of the OOB before the fights



I pay the price for losing all Caucasus. I'm now far stronger than the germans in terms of arts and air forces but I'm hardly above 8M men... I lack of manpower

Recovery will be harder than expected... As shown on the rifle corps screen, my units are roughly at 90% TOE. Annoying.

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February 1943 - 7/11/2016 11:21:08 PM   
STEF78


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Kursk/Voronejh

Pressure is progressively increasing in the Kursk area



North Stalingrad

Grinding begins in this sector



Astrakhan

Some success near Astrakhan



Baku

Heavy losses but entrenchment is weaker.


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RE: February 1943 - 7/13/2016 7:24:55 AM   
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RE: February 1943 - 7/13/2016 10:25:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just a note for followers. I am on holidays and Stef will be too. Probably there won't be many updates in next 4 weeks.

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RE: February 1943 - 7/13/2016 4:39:25 PM   
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