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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/21/2016 12:39:26 PM   
M60A3TTS


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Status: offline 		cpt, even though the cavalry divisions still cost 20 ap each, you should get about 15 new divisions built. You need them as cavalry corps for any serious winter offensive.

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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/21/2016 2:16:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		It doesn't look like he has the 325 APs needed (inc. cost of making the divisions into corps) for them to be built in time to be much use in this winter. Even if he had the APs, I doubt he has the arms points to spare.

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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/21/2016 2:35:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Volkhov Front arrives next turn to push him near 500 AP. Yes, arms would be an issue but better to start sooner than later.

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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/21/2016 3:16:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		thanks for your advice
actually I sent back turn 30
i have few Cav corps but allready 2 guards
20 points is a bit prohibitive in my view

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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/23/2016 1:30:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 23 or November 20, 1941
again two weeks before winter
we have a status-quo between Bryansk and Kharkov
Volkhov front arrive
Mikhail Khozin (49 Army) is promoted Général Polkovnik




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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/23/2016 1:35:20 PM   
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Makeevka falled in the Huns hands
and Vyacheslav Tsvetaev (51 Army) died in an accident
Evgeny Zhuravlev will take command
this army guard the crimea




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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/26/2016 4:36:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 24 or November 27, 1941
an overview of the front line before winter
a new division is awarded Guard




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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/26/2016 4:39:02 PM   
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he got a lot of prisonners
time for revenge come soon




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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/26/2016 5:48:57 PM   
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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/28/2016 1:12:14 PM   
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NorthWest Front will try to take back Rzhev
one more rifle div become Guard and i got my first Tank brigade




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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/28/2016 1:18:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		opération is launch toward Tula
a lot of Panzer and Motorized div on the front line
losses are light for this week
Axis 7 500 men, 20 AFV & 200 Guns
Russia 10 300 " , 90 " & 130 "" only 6 T34
armies are going to start line in part




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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/28/2016 1:31:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		With the Moscow bulge there was not enough infantry divisions to cover front lines, so a tough winter awaited the panzer boys. Besides, manpower is most important factor in preserving army strength, and butchered infantry divisions "cost" more men lost than units with more hardware, which can always be replaced once the production ramps up...

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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/28/2016 1:55:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: morvael

With the Moscow bulge there was not enough infantry divisions to cover front lines, so a tough winter awaited the panzer boys. Besides, manpower is most important factor in preserving army strength, and butchered infantry divisions "cost" more men lost than units with more hardware, which can always be replaced once the production ramps up...


also after your success in the autmn, cpt flam must have a finite set of resources ... and you most definitely have something worth defending?

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RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) - 1/28/2016 2:06:39 PM   
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The idea is not to abandon any territory and hard-built forts, but seal any gaps that will appear with help from units remaining in their undamaged forts. Victorious counterattacks will be used to slow down morale decrease by giving me some of it back after winning.

edit: the problem is that in areas captured at the end of November (near Rzhev, Kaluga and Tula) there was no time to build forts...

< Message edited by morvael -- 1/28/2016 3:08:51 PM >

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Turn 26 or December 11, 1941 - 2/2/2016 9:10:03 AM   
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our lines closed around Tula I got the 24th Guard rifle in this sector
losses from my part
Axis 11.7 K troops, 330 Art
Mine 13.7 k "" , 160 "
not much AFV (some from Rum Armor Div




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RE: Turn 26 or December 11, 1941 - 2/2/2016 9:15:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		as Morvael said there is attacks and counter-attacks
this keep both armies occupied
my advances are fréquently by brigade at half TOE
in the south most actions are between Stalino & Kharkov
Nikolai Vatutin (44 Army, Transcaucasus Front) has been dismissed
Nikolai Simoniak take command




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Turn 27 or December 18, 1941 - 2/14/2016 9:26:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		25 th guard promoted in 24 Army (near Rzhev)
attacks and counter-attacks around Tula
no possibility toward Moscow




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RE: Turn 27 or December 18, 1941 - 2/14/2016 9:28:31 AM   
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3 cav corps are there




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RE: Turn 27 or December 18, 1941 - 2/14/2016 9:32:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		some fights too near Stalino
losses this turn
17 660 axis for 21 330; just gone past 3 millions
500 art "" vs 200 for me
not much tanks
actually 10 cav corps (eleven soon)




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Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 - 2/27/2016 10:44:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		action- réaction between Rzhev and Moscow bulge
i got my first Guard cav corps (near is HQ)
and the 26th guard inf awarded




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RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 - 2/27/2016 10:49:49 AM   
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Tula has been liberated without a fight




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RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 - 2/27/2016 10:54:04 AM   
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losses are interesting
18 910 vs 21 K for me
540 Art for 216
112 AFV for 63
part of axis losses come from Rumania & Hungary




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RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 - 2/27/2016 5:45:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cpt flam
despite their claim
Tula has been liberated without a fight


With troops NE of Tula in disarray (no fort, clear terrain) it was too hard to hold the city. I knew I will have no time to fortify enough to keep the city, but the goal of November's attack was to destroy factories, so the operation was a success, despite that withdrawal.

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RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 - 2/27/2016 7:51:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		28 guards in '41??? It's supposed to be maxed at 5% but I don't believe for a second that you have 500+ RD's! What gives? Ordinal number of destroyed guards not being reused?

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RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 - 2/28/2016 1:55:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ginger- I believe with mild winter the Soviets get a higher guards % to help make up for much tougher Germans in the first winter.

I dont know what the higher % is but thats my understanding.

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RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 - 2/28/2016 7:35:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		@chaos45: No, mild winter lowers the requirement for promotion or rather gives bonus to the roll. Or should, that is. As should playing with combat bonus: NONE (no +1).

@cpt flam: How many guards RD do you have on map in the last turn of '41, T28?

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RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 - 2/28/2016 4:50:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Guard units: 26 Rifle div, 1 Cav corps, 3 Para X, 1 Tank X, 3 Sapper and 8 Art

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RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 - 2/28/2016 7:38:20 PM   
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I would be surprised if the russians take Moscow back... annoying for 1942...

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Bloody new year - 3/6/2016 5:53:49 PM   
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here is OOB for january 1st 1942
end of my turn
i make a save before ending turn, this serve for this AAR




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RE: Bloody new year - 3/6/2016 6:00:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Georgy Zakharov (24 Army) in front of Rzhev has been promoted Général-Leitenant
new year give a lot of awards + 23 Guard rifle div, +5 Guard ART and a sapper
routed germans are 17 Panzer Div and 8 SS cav brigade







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