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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 11:59:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've noticed that Germany has begun producing short range bombers at a alarming rate.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 12:07:23 PM   
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I've noticed that Germany has begun producing short range bombers at a alarming rate.
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Well that is not surprising - they have very few bombers - and hardly any aircraft in the east.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 12:10:41 PM   
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I've noticed that Germany has begun producing short range bombers at a alarming rate.
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Well that is not surprising - they have very few bombers - and hardly any aircraft in the east.

Indeed.

But even with few aircraft they have an advantage over USSR.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 2:02:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can't even imagine playing Germany without every possible Stuka on the board for the entire first half of the war, each from the first turn I can build them.

Even more valuable on the Russian Front are any and all Italian aircraft.

Does Germany possibly have more HQ-A than actual ARM in the east?


After all the Japanese DOW changes, where does the US Entry against the Euro Axis sit?

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 2:09:43 PM   
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After all the Japanese DOW changes, where does the US Entry against the Euro Axis sit?

Decent enough.




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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 2:11:30 PM   
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Does Germany possibly have more HQ-A than actual ARM in the east?

Yes.




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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 2:42:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suggest that we have a meeting between CW, USA, France, and USSR, do discuss the future of the war.

I further suggest that USSR cancels any and all trade deals they have with Germany. And that trade is established as soon as possible between US, CW, and USSR. I recommend that this new trade route is opened, at the latest, in January 1942.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 2:43:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could you take over for the naval searches and possible combats?

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 2:48:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes I can - are you going to send me the game? What do you mean by post 1297?

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 2:56:14 PM   
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Yes I can - are you going to send me the game? What do you mean by post 1297?

I will mail you the save shortly. Just checking the convoy lines.

I mean that I would like US to start trading with USSR, and establish a lend-lease program. It will not be much because there is a lack of free convoy points.

And I also would like you to ponder for a while on our Grand Strategy and then we can talk about it. The situation has changed now and I think USSR will be in the war soon. Or I hope so anyway.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 3:07:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think I forgot one naval move or two because of sentry. Could you give me a minute and I will mail you a new save.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 5:20:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can you let me know your plans for this phase of the impulse please?

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 5:26:24 PM   
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Can you let me know your plans for this phase of the impulse please?

Sure. It will take some 10 to 30 minutes. Or so I suspect. I had a break for dinner so I haven't looked at this.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 5:34:06 PM   
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Can you let me know your plans for this phase of the impulse please?

Part 1:

The Lancaster in London bomb Essen and then lands NE of London.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 5:39:45 PM   
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I further suggest that USSR cancels any and all trade deals they have with Germany.


The USSR-Germany trade deals are mandatory, not voluntary. Unless you mean that the USSR should declare war on Germany, which would certainly cancel the trade deals.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 6:04:31 PM   
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I further suggest that USSR cancels any and all trade deals they have with Germany.


The USSR-Germany trade deals are mandatory, not voluntary. Unless you mean that the USSR should declare war on Germany, which would certainly cancel the trade deals.

It was just some hinting that it was about time that the Soviet Union should fully join the Allied side. No real relevance to the actual trade deal.

Edit: Thank you for keeping me straight.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 6:06:45 PM   
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Can you let me know your plans for this phase of the impulse please?

Part 2 out of 3:

Land Movement:
China:

1) 1st Cav -> 88, 140
2) 2nd Cav -> moves through 86,143 and then to -> 88, 142 (important that it moves through that hex so that supply can be provided)
3) HQI -> 85, 140
4) 19th Garr -> 84, 140
5) 8th INF -> 81, 140 (Ichang)
6) 4th Mot Div -> 81, 143 (Wuhan)
7) 2nd Inf Div -> 85, 142 (Changsha)
8) 6th INF -> 82, 139
9) Peking MIL -> 83, 139
10) 14th INF -> 86, 139
11) Chungking MIL -> 87, 139
12) AT -> 85, 140
13) 5th MOT -> 90, 136

Note that the 2nd CAV Div is immobile.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 6:17:35 PM   
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Rebase:
China:

P-36A rebase to Changsha

USA:
A-24 rebase to Belfast from TRS
PBY-1 on Pago Pago rebase to Brisbane

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 8:30:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Impressive manoeuvrings in China old fruit.

As for the future, I wonder if they are not going to attack the Soviet Union? Seems strange that they put two Stukas in western Germany?

Alternatively they will attack - to get Romania in - but the focus will remain on kicking the Allies out of Spain.

If I was them I would wait for the Soviets to get impatient and march up to the border (to get the right garrison nos.) and then attack.

If they don't attack I will need to do that regardless of the risk.

Subject to the dreaded god of dice (did you see my naval search throws???) the position in Manchuria looks good.

Question is - do we head for Spain with the US reinforcement or perhaps drip feed reinforcements into Northern Spain, and meanwhile try and unlock Sardinia and Corsica via Algeria? A lot to be said for the latter approach I think, as it widens the area that the Axis have to garrison.



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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 9:09:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mmmmm the more I think about it, the more I wish I had simply brazened it out. If the Germans wanted to declare war in the winter without aircraft then good luck to them. At least my units would have been in position to turn the tables if the dice worked right (although the latter is a somewhat big if! )

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 9:59:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I seem to be an absolute Jonah I get a bit of success sinking a sub - and am now, in a far more important sea area, on the receiving end of a 1/10 and losing the air to air. FFS.

I couldn't even get an abort to help the next round. And of course Ramillies is sunk.

I can only apologise.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/12/2017 11:33:48 PM   
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I seem to be an absolute Jonah I get a bit of success sinking a sub - and am now, in a far more important sea area, on the receiving end of a 1/10 and losing the air to air. FFS.

I couldn't even get an abort to help the next round. And of course Ramillies is sunk.

I can only apologise.

You got the US DOW right. Take pride in that.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/13/2017 5:20:14 PM   
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I seem to be an absolute Jonah I get a bit of success sinking a sub - and am now, in a far more important sea area, on the receiving end of a 1/10 and losing the air to air. FFS.

I couldn't even get an abort to help the next round. And of course Ramillies is sunk.

I can only apologise.

Nothing to worry about. Sometimes bad things happens in war.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/13/2017 5:22:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		However. A think we need a new policy. Time to end the Axis air supremacy in the BoB and CSV. If they want to attack our supply link in the 0-box then we should strive to have at least as many defending aircraft as they have attacking aircraft. And having bombers or naval bombers that can be used to soak up losses if need be.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/13/2017 6:39:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Spanish PARTisans will arrive eventually. Is the 'Blue' division available yet to land on a Partisan coast hex to grab a port? That would blow the Spanish theater wide open. Land the division, move the PART out, land a CW Corps; next impulse move the division out and land the Yankees.


Rinse and repeat as needed in France, also, except there you will need a Free French division.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/15/2017 7:08:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Soviets are doing a land. Do you want to do this first bit?

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/15/2017 7:12:24 PM   
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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/15/2017 7:19:24 PM   
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Strategic Bombing
Mukden by Pe-8 in Vladivostok

Ground Strike
SB2-Bis and Su-2M against Kirin

Rail Moves
None

Land Moves
Head east

Chinese Communists
5-4 MTN takes resource hex (68,141)
Partisan takes Taiyuan
Units generally head east to surround Tungkwan

No attacks

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/15/2017 8:03:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Germany rebase the Stukas towards Spain. That was sort of expected considering where they were placed on the map. But it is always nice to get confirmation.

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RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 2/15/2017 8:05:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		May I suggest that USSR stack the border as much as possible? At least makes a count of what is possible to get as garrison ration for next turn. It could get interesting.

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