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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 5:48:00 PM   
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I received two emails about Ark Royal. First one was 4, so she sinks. I thought second was a mistake.
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First one is timed 17:19 - a seven. Second is timed 17:20 and is a 4.






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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 5:49:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Both rolls were requested from same IP address. Did you click "send" button twice or something like that?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 5:52:36 PM   
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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 5:52:47 PM   
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As you can see timed a minute later






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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 5:53:30 PM   
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Check times when rolls were generated. 1 second apart, 4 was generated first.
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Where is that?


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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 5:57:12 PM   
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I'm answering from phone, can't post a picture.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 5:59:42 PM   
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So what is happening here?

I ask the die roller to roll TO ALL PLAYERS as normal.

I then (apparently) ask for another roll one second later, again TO ALL PLAYERS but this second roll is received by my e-mail first and which I comment on in my post. I then deal with Canarias but meanwhile, while I am doing that, a second e-mail (which was apparently sent first) comes in???

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 6:24:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh now I read your text so that I undestand it after Ark Royal took a hit and it us damaged, not sink.

I had quite a hectic day until now.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 6:26:29 PM   
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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 6:32:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Right the game will need re-working to include the sunk result but I'm too angry - not too mention thoroughly bemused - by all that nonsense to look at this now.

Frankly the loss of Ark Royal - after thinking I had dodged a bullet - is inconsequential compared to how this must look.

But a) As you can see, the first e-mail I received was the one I reported on, b) if this was some kind of cheat it would hardly make sense to send the e-mails to all parties c) for it to be a cheat I would have needed to see the 4 then that split second sent the second e-mail so I could use the 7 (because of course I knew the second e-mail would come first - and I knew the second e-mail would be a better throw).


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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 6:39:41 PM   
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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 6:43:52 PM   
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I undestand your frustation. It is weird that I received messages in correct order.
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Well no, its not weird its correct!!! What is weird is:

- why the second e-mail was sent one second later
- why I received the second one first - If I had them in the correct order like you, then even though there was a spurrious extra one, I would have reported the sinking and so there would be no problem...




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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 6:48:26 PM   
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quote:

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I undestand your frustation. It is weird that I received messages in correct order.
warspite1

Well no, its not weird its correct!!! What is weird is:

- why the second e-mail was sent one second later
- why I received the second one first - If I had them in the correct order like you, then even though there was a spurrious extra one, I would have reported the sinking and so there would be no problem...


-I'm not that good with computers to tell those reasons
-Sometimes it took over 5 minutes to send me that email, that was the reason to use "both" so I see result right away

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 6:49:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

I undestand your frustation. It is weird that I received messages in correct order.
warspite1

Well no, its not weird its correct!!! What is weird is:

- why the second e-mail was sent one second later
- why I received the second one first - If I had them in the correct order like you, then even though there was a spurrious extra one, I would have reported the sinking and so there would be no problem...





I got the second one first as well, so it wasn't just Warspite1.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 6:53:52 PM   
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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 6:57:45 PM   
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Imagine if those rolls would have been generated same time Which result is the real one.

No problem at all. Then it would have been a re-roll.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/2/2016 11:58:59 PM   
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The game did things correctly.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/3/2016 1:57:38 AM   
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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/3/2016 2:28:09 AM   
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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/3/2016 3:01:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jt14 meant the dice roller kerfluffle. Confusing when it happens. I always look at 'freeware' like this - you get what you pay for.

The historical CW lost Courageous on turn 1, Glorious on turn 4, and the Ark Royal on about turn ... 13?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/7/2016 6:26:40 PM   
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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/7/2016 6:49:33 PM   
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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/7/2016 7:28:02 PM   
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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/8/2016 11:13:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Right so applying the 4 to Ark Royal, ignoring the 7 because I never sent it, and applying the 5 to Canarias results in:




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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/8/2016 11:20:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Both sides stay. The British bring in no further aircraft. The Luftwaffe has a Me-110c and an Me-109E2 available.

Do they want to bring them in?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/8/2016 11:27:07 AM   
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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/8/2016 11:41:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		The rolls are 3 = Axis and 1 = Allies

The Allies have just one surprise point and so cannot get out of the battle.

Do you wish to put the Condor at the front to slightly improve the odds?




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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/8/2016 11:49:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Question to be sure:If Axis abort after the first round, do the planes stay in sea area for third round?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/8/2016 11:52:01 AM   
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Question to be sure:If Axis abort after the first round, do the planes stay in sea area for third round?

Yes. If they voluntary abort from air combat the aircraft stay in the sea area and are available for next search.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: A - 10/8/2016 12:05:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK thanks. Italian NAV is front bomber. If the best CW fighter is fighting after the first round, remaining Axis NAV's will abort.

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