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World War One Mod! - 7/10/2016 11:13:55 PM   
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At long last, I'm happy to announce a World War One Mod is being made available to you all who

are interested!!

Many years ago, I believe it was 2005, Paul Adaway came up with this mod based on West Front.

He enlisted the help of the following:

Wyatt Kappely
Mike Amos
Chris Mee
George Smithson
Rod Coles
Huib Versloot
Mark Mcdougall
Gary Tiger21(??)
Chema(??)
Andrew (no last name)
Erik (no last name)

We worked on it for quite a time, then after awhile it just kind of fizzled out. I tinkered with it on

and off as time allowed updating graphics and with the help of Wyatt made a few more advances. I

tried to get in touch with Paul over the years to no avail, to see if he had any interest in continueing

this work, as I thought it was fascinating!

A little while ago, I was burning to play against someone, and having made a few scenario's

decided to only make it available to a few friends I could trust to not let it out, and we have been

playing a team game and scenario's amongst ourselves for a few months.

Out of the blue today, who of all people responded to a PM I had sent out long ago, but Paul

Adaway himself!! He told me to go ahead and release it with his blessing, to which I was thrilled,

no longer feeling like I couldn't let this out without his ok, as a matter of honor. I ran the idea past

my Chief of operations, Jason Petho, to see if it was ok to release, as I didn't want to overstep any

bounds with future game developement, and he ok'd it as well, so here it is!

The campaign generator works, as well as the battle generator, and there are quite a few scenario's

as well. I sincerely hope you all enjoy this game as much as I do and start PBEM'ing the heck out

of it. Gas is fired, if available, by hitting the ALT button while in plot mode. Artillery is not very

accurate, so be very careful how close you plot to your own lines! Observation Balloons are the

key to accuracy, so any scenario design should include a few of these each side. They do not

move, but have a heght advantage to see out to full visability.

The UI is the old interface, I'm afraid, I can't update it as I'm no programmer, and since there are

gas and other routines involved, I can't update it to 2.02 standard as my Korean War, but this game

rocks!!

Download this into your Matrix Games\John Tillers Campaign Series structure, so it will be C:

\Games\Matrix Games\John Tiller's Campaign Series\WW1 v1.1. You will find three mods in the

mods folder to use with JSGME which is in the game, they are 3D textured terrain, 2D terrain, and

water.

Country's included are;

00 Allied Russian Empire
01 Axis German Empire
03 Axis Austro-Hungarian Empire
04 Axis Ottoman Empire (Turkey)
05 Axis Ukrainia
06 Axis Kingdom of Bulgaria
07 Allied Poland
08 Allied French Third Republic
09 Allied British Empire
10 Allied USA
11 Allied Portugal
12 Allied Kingdom of Belgium
13 Allied Kingdom of Serbia
14 Allied Empire of Japan
15 Allied Kingdom of Greece
16 Axis Bolsheviks
17 Allied Kingdom of Romania
18 Allied Kingdom of Italy
19 Allied Arab Revolt
20 Allied Kingdom of Montenegro

Welcome to WW1!!!

Link- https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmEaW_rdp6RpgSs4CrGCs6yAGJFf
UPDATE-https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmEaW_rdp6RpgS3Heyk3XxRHZQ47
Fixes an error in the British Corps oob, replaced the WF New Campaign Screen, and fixed an error in the Tro3d terrain file. Unzip into your WW1 folder.







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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/11/2016 12:09:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well thanks a whole bunch there Warhorse and coy!
Is there anything special I have to do with this
file to get it going? I won't have time today but
I will soon.
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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/11/2016 1:12:46 AM   
Warhorse


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Nope, just unzip the file into the John Tilleers Campaign Series folder, it will make a new folder called WW1 v1.1. To play, in the new game folder look for World War One.exe!

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/12/2016 9:41:06 AM   
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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/14/2016 3:32:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gas shells? As in mustard gas? What is their battlefield effect in the game?

This just might be awesome...

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/14/2016 4:39:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Exactly, one in the same! They mostly cause immediate disruption, as well as elimination or reduction, a sick-looking colored graphic for it as well! Heidicourt scenario has it, and I think Kaiserschlact does as well.

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/14/2016 4:53:41 PM   
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I can thoroughly recommend this mod. Played PBEM and in a team game which have both been excellent.

Rich

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/14/2016 5:38:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Warhorse, This mod is great!!! I always wished for a WWI version of CS ever since I first got hooked by the Talonsoft editions many years ago. You and your comrades did an awesome job on this. I downloaded and unzipped it without a hitch into my CS 1.04 folder and it plays great. I first thought something was wrong with the artillery dialog in some scenarios (Meeting Engagement and Skirmish for Arras) when the game reported no artillery available even though there are guns deployed on the field. Is this because some are direct-fire only? The French 75's are indirect fire capable but the Germans are not. Also got an internal file error saying a British Yeomanry unit was missing when I opened the OOB editor. That error only appeared once and has not appeared again. I should have written down the exact name of the unit.
JSGME is there and the graphic mods are sweet! Thanks for a another great CS Mod. Now I can go from Flanders Fields to Korea to Ktalan!

Cheers!

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/14/2016 6:08:08 PM   
Warhorse


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Status: offline 		Hi!

Here are a few pointers, I'm sorry I never got around to making a notes yet about everything!

Artillery- I went through the oob’s, and marked all indirect fire as such at the end of the unit name, and, you can also tell if you are using 2d NATO sysmbols, they are the artillery symbol. Be very careful in plotting your arty, it will not only usually not show up next turn, but will also stray from intended targeted hex, I can really ruin your own troops day! This is by design, to represent the more primitive laying techniques, and lack of radio contact. Some scenario’s will have an observation balloon, they are spotters, and will make sure you stay spot on.

Field Guns- These are represented in 2d by the infantry gun symbol, and are direct fire weapons only, so make sure they can see what you want to hit, and move them around periodically, as your opponent will definitely want to get rid of these pests!

Machineguns-Very powerful, protect them as well, they are your friend, if you own them!

Aircraft-Only good for showing positions, and if left in place, will spot troops within sight, not artillery spotters, very low attack factor, and hard to shoot down, I usually won’t waste fire on them, you mostly will be lucky to get them to retreat!

Gas-Some guns have it, denoted by a green ‘G’ in the info box top right when selected, use is by using the SHIFT key while plotting artillery with Ctrl depressed as well. Effects are usually immediate disruption, but I have seen reductions as well.

K'talan Mod, haven't heard of that one in some time! A pity, I liked that one very much as well.I actually started the K'talan one as a fun only thing to kick the AI's ass when playing DCG's, which is all I used to do until I discovered PBEM!

Let me know if you stumble onto that missing unit, also, check in the scenario's section at the Blitz.org under CS-WW1 mod, for all the updated scenario's in the database! I corrected some problems while I was uploading them all.

Really glad you like the mod!

Found the oob error, the $Corps had an invalid date spread for the 74th Yeomanry Division. I corrected the entry in the Corps file, where to make it available?

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/14/2016 6:51:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Mike,
I'll be on the lookout for the missing unit and let you know the status. I'm glad you designed the technological limitations of the era into the mod. The balloons look cool and add a new dimension to the battlespace. I also like the variety of the scenarios which cover the different theaters of the war from not only the Western and Eastern Fronts but also the often forgotten African and Middle Eastern battles. It's fitting this mod was released during the same month as the hundredth anniversary of the Battle of The Somme.
As far as K'talan is concerned, I had always noticed it on The Blitz but never had the time to fully explore it until recently. Alternate history has always been an interest of mine. I'm working on a scenario for it involving German heavy armor including the David Units. I'll send it to you once it's finished.

Keep up the good work!
Don

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/14/2016 7:26:15 PM   
Warhorse


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Send me an email at impalass(at)ptd(dot)net, I'll give you the corrected Corps file! That's so awesome you are making a scenario for the K'talan game, maybe breathe some new life into it! Not sure, but I think I was coverting that game into the 2.02 standard, will have to check, has been awhile! Those David hybrid tanks can teach those aliens a lesson!

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/16/2016 10:49:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Mike... Thanks for making this mod and releasing it for all of us. Tried it out and I think it's great!
Keep up the good work.

In the future I'd like to create a few WWI scenarios with your mod and share them with the community.
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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/17/2016 12:31:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		You're quite welcome! Some scenario's would be a great addition, thanks!

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/18/2016 12:35:59 PM   
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Thanks very much for releasing this mod. Also plan to do some extra scenarios for it. Hopefully the mad can act as a test bed and ideas generator for the WW1 CS game that is somewhere on the to do list for the CS team, in the same way that the Vietnam scenarios done for the Divided Ground game did for the CS Vietnam game due out at the end of the year.

There are quite a few board games on the topic that could serve as a source of extra scenarios. SPI's "Soldiers" and its various derivative's comes to mind. As well as the newer "Infantry Attacks" by Avalanche Press and "Landships" by Clash of Arms games.

I think there is also some scope for converting scenarios from the JTS Great War PC games scaling up scenarios from "Squad Battles First World War" and scaling down scenarios or parts of them from France 1914 and East Prussia 1914.

Really looking forward to playing and contributing to this.

Kind regards
Ian

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/19/2016 12:30:10 AM   
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I actually did convert two scenario's from East Prussia '14, Creeping Tide, and Battle of Lyck!! So much out there, found some Great War Spearhead scenario's as well, much more than the trench warfare everyone thinks of WW1!!

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/23/2016 12:40:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Updated the description for Ortelsburg 1914 to advise against using EA, with the bunkers EA makes it impossible to take objectives!

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/29/2016 12:11:46 AM   
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I've already forgotten the old interface...how do I tell what terrain is in a hex?

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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/30/2016 6:28:44 PM   
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RE: World War One Mod! - 7/31/2016 2:55:38 AM   
Warhorse


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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/5/2016 5:13:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just posted a map of the Verdun, France area for the WWI mod. I created it to scale, 6 hexes per mile, using online references. I'll continue to make enhancements and post any in time. The documents used to create the map, along with real photos from the battle, are included.
If anyone wants to edit further, or create a "Battle of Verdun" scenario for this map, feel free.

Grab it from the link below:
http://www.theblitz.org/scenarios/world-war-one-mod/verdun-map/b-15.htm?action=scenario&id=11625

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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/5/2016 10:43:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		One thing I might suggest, for v2 in the future, would be to reduce the game scale. I'd suggest no more than 100 m/hex and no less than 50 m/hex and 1-2 minute turns. This is because No Man's Land varied from typically 50-200 m in width.

The scale in both m/hex and time/turn is set in main.pdx.

A number of years ago, someone posted either here or on The Blitz a detailed explaination of how main.pdx worked. I think it was part of something called the "Rising Sun Far East Project" or something like that. Unfortunately, I can't find it on my PC or on the internet.

You would probably need to adjust the weapons tables, too.

Just a thought, otherwise .

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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/6/2016 12:32:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Deepstuff123

Just posted a map of the Verdun, France area for the WWI mod. I created it to scale, 6 hexes per mile, using online references. I'll continue to make enhancements and post any in time. The documents used to create the map, along with real photos from the battle, are included.
If anyone wants to edit further, or create a "Battle of Verdun" scenario for this map, feel free.

Grab it from the link below:
http://www.theblitz.org/scenarios/world-war-one-mod/verdun-map/b-15.htm?action=scenario&id=11625

Jeff

Hi Jeff, thank you very much for the generous contribution!!


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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/6/2016 12:37:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HoustonAerosFan

One thing I might suggest, for v2 in the future, would be to reduce the game scale. I'd suggest no more than 100 m/hex and no less than 50 m/hex and 1-2 minute turns. This is because No Man's Land varied from typically 50-200 m in width.

The scale in both m/hex and time/turn is set in main.pdx.

A number of years ago, someone posted either here or on The Blitz a detailed explaination of how main.pdx worked. I think it was part of something called the "Rising Sun Far East Project" or something like that. Unfortunately, I can't find it on my PC or on the internet.

You would probably need to adjust the weapons tables, too.

Just a thought, otherwise .

I also wrote a doc on the main.pdt a few years ago, I modded it pretty good for Korean War. I have it on my comp somewhere, but pretty sure I posted it up in the mods section of here and/or the Blitz?

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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/6/2016 1:34:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Warhorse - I did eventually find them on The Blitz.

I'm surprised after all these years someone hasn't modded one of the SP games. I think there was a Civil War (er, uh - War of Northern Aggression) mod done a number of years ago.

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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/7/2016 2:15:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		For awhile my brother was in on the Civil War mod, but bailed when ideas collided. I had started on a Korean War mod for SPWAW, but then decided to switch to Campaign Series, as it was much easier to mod.

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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/7/2016 9:07:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Deepstuff123

Just posted a map of the Verdun, France area for the WWI mod. I created it to scale, 6 hexes per mile, using online references. I'll continue to make enhancements and post any in time. The documents used to create the map, along with real photos from the battle, are included.
If anyone wants to edit further, or create a "Battle of Verdun" scenario for this map, feel free.

Grab it from the link below:
http://www.theblitz.org/scenarios/world-war-one-mod/verdun-map/b-15.htm?action=scenario&id=11625

Jeff


Hi Jeff
Thanks very much. After I release the scenario I am currently working on for Morhange 20th August 1914 (XX1 Korps dawn attack on the French 39e Division d'Infanterie in Loraine) I had been planning next to do a scenario for Lieutenant-Colonel Emile Driant and the 56e & 59e BCP defense of the Bois des Caures at Verdun on 21st February 1916. Using the relevant section of your map will certainly make things very much easier.

Regards
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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/9/2016 3:05:47 AM   
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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/9/2016 5:58:42 PM   
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One thing I might suggest, for v2 in the future, would be to reduce the game scale. I'd suggest no more than 100 m/hex and no less than 50 m/hex and 1-2 minute turns. This is because No Man's Land varied from typically 50-200 m in width.

The scale in both m/hex and time/turn is set in main.pdx.

A number of years ago, someone posted either here or on The Blitz a detailed explaination of how main.pdx worked. I think it was part of something called the "Rising Sun Far East Project" or something like that. Unfortunately, I can't find it on my PC or on the internet.

You would probably need to adjust the weapons tables, too.

Just a thought, otherwise .


I think a 100 meter per hex scale would have some advantages for smaller battles and it would certainly make it easier to convert scenarios from relevant board games like "Soldiers", "Red Poppies", "Landships/Infernal Machines" and the newer "Infantry Attacks" series games. However I would like to see this offered as an alternative to the current 250 meters per hex scale and not instead of it as this makes it feasible to do scenarios on relatively large scale battles on a manageable map.

Quite a lot of the Corps level scenarios done for the "Great War Spearhead II" table top rules convert in Campaign Series terms to a 24 hexes wide by 16 hexes high map. While a rather larger battle like Neuve Chapelle could be comfortably fitted onto a 30 high by 30 wide one.

I also understand from Warhorse that it should be possible to increase the stacking limit per hex to reflect the rather denser troop deployments sometimes used in this era. The rather crowded battlefield for many WW1 battles that results does come as a bit of a shock but all the reading I have done suggest that much of the time this was the way things were. Also in 3D mode, having a whole company stacked in 1 hex and the other companies of its battalion lined up alongside it does give a real impression of mass.

I have attached a screen-shot from the play testing I am doing for my battle of Morhange scenario to show what I mean here. Note as variable light conditions are not available in the JT CS version that the WW1 mod was built on at Warhorse's suggestion I have used the night / dawn attack option to simulate the early morning mist that kept down German infantry casualties initially but also greatly reduced the effectiveness of their howitzer fire before it cleared.

Enjoy
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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/9/2016 8:19:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HoustonAerosFan

One thing I might suggest, for v2 in the future, would be to reduce the game scale. I'd suggest no more than 100 m/hex and no less than 50 m/hex and 1-2 minute turns. This is because No Man's Land varied from typically 50-200 m in width.

The scale in both m/hex and time/turn is set in main.pdx.

A number of years ago, someone posted either here or on The Blitz a detailed explaination of how main.pdx worked. I think it was part of something called the "Rising Sun Far East Project" or something like that. Unfortunately, I can't find it on my PC or on the internet.

You would probably need to adjust the weapons tables, too.

Just a thought, otherwise .


Then this would no longer be CS?
Scale is scale. If you like shorter hexes you might want to look into Squad Battles?
CS has always been 250 hexes and six minute time frames. It would change everything from shooting to movement to visibility.

I think CS can bend to make enjoyable scenarios without having to change scale.

RR

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RE: World War One Mod! - 8/9/2016 8:52:45 PM   
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Thank you, Warhorse!

My pleasure, for sure!!

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