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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/13/2016 8:24:41 PM   
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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/13/2016 8:36:36 PM   
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Completely agree with Kate as the best looking of the trio. Also the best actress.
No idea on the beauty in the previous post - the forum changes the file name to gibberish.


Times up! She is Peggy Lipton and when she re-appeared in "Twin Peaks" she totally blew me away. By the way, I really, really like freckles.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/13/2016 8:40:15 PM   
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Bullwinkle,

I know this will sound pathetic, but I have no idea what a SarForce DRM is... You say the bottom line is "if you do some work", well trust me when I've spent HOURS with the original game (Ubisoft) and their techs and still nothing. I don't have the "Steam" version, as I didn't know there would be any difference. So what I'm hearing is if I want to run this game, I would need to download the Steam version??? It seems strange to talk of another game on this game's forum, but such is life!


StarForce DRM was a WAY overpowered attempt to reduce piracy of Ubisoft games. It attempted to do this by deliberately altering the user's Op System in particular the CD/DVD drive routines. In some cases this even physically damaged the CD/DVD drives themselves. I knew that there was a patch to remove the StarForce DRM, BUT (it was my perception)... you had to install the original game FIRST before patching of course, and I was not willing to risk any altering of the Op system OR even physical damage of the drives themselves even in the short interval between installation and patching.

Matrix uses a serial number system which I'm sure you are familiar with. Works reasonably well, but piracy can and does exist with Matrix titles.

STEAM does something to the original executable such that the game cannot be run except on the original purchaser's machine which had to be download/purchased thru STEAM. This does makes modding a little more of a hassle but does not prevent it. A lot of people still think that you have to be continuously logged on to STEAM to run their games. NOT SO. (at least not now). I always run the STEAM games I have with STEAM in the Offline mode, In fact I have gone weeks if not months without logging onto STEAM and not had any issues playing their games offline. I do this intentionally because STEAM has the annoying habit of updating games automatically even if you set it not to. This can mess up a modded installation something awful.

I'd rather purchase games using the serial number system overall, but in a lot of cases, Silent Hunter being one example, STEAM is the next best thing.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/13/2016 8:47:55 PM   
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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/13/2016 9:37:44 PM   
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Did I say I really like freckles? Like really, really? Anyone who has freckles should consider themselves lucky. I'm speaking to you, Olivia Munn. Did I say anything about how much I love dimples? Oh, don't get me started. I'm speaking to anyone who has dimples. Well, women mostly. Just know that, if you smile at me and I see dimples, you pretty much own me.


Could I make a polite request? I know you like to do funny posts, but you constantly clog up threads where people are trying to discuss something else. I don't mind OT, but a new thread about Peggy Lipton would be kinder. Thanks.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/13/2016 9:40:11 PM   
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Bullwinkle,

I know this will sound pathetic, but I have no idea what a SarForce DRM is... You say the bottom line is "if you do some work", well trust me when I've spent HOURS with the original game (Ubisoft) and their techs and still nothing. I don't have the "Steam" version, as I didn't know there would be any difference. So what I'm hearing is if I want to run this game, I would need to download the Steam version??? It seems strange to talk of another game on this game's forum, but such is life!


StarForce DRM was a WAY overpowered attempt to reduce piracy of Ubisoft games. It attempted to do this by deliberately altering the user's Op System in particular the CD/DVD drive routines. In some cases this even physically damaged the CD/DVD drives themselves. I knew that there was a patch to remove the StarForce DRM, BUT (it was my perception)... you had to install the original game FIRST before patching of course, and I was not willing to risk any altering of the Op system OR even physical damage of the drives themselves even in the short interval between installation and patching.

Matrix uses a serial number system which I'm sure you are familiar with. Works reasonably well, but piracy can and does exist with Matrix titles.

STEAM does something to the original executable such that the game cannot be run except on the original purchaser's machine which had to be download/purchased thru STEAM. This does makes modding a little more of a hassle but does not prevent it. A lot of people still think that you have to be continuously logged on to STEAM to run their games. NOT SO. (at least not now). I always run the STEAM games I have with STEAM in the Offline mode, In fact I have gone weeks if not months without logging onto STEAM and not had any issues playing their games offline. I do this intentionally because STEAM has the annoying habit of updating games automatically even if you set it not to. This can mess up a modded installation something awful.

I'd rather purchase games using the serial number system overall, but in a lot of cases, Silent Hunter being one example, STEAM is the next best thing.


I did a quick Wiki look on SF after I posted. I know it's Wiki and the posts could be by SF employees themselves, but apparently the company is still around. The client list is mainly Russian. They don't look to be too involved in games anymore.

It wasn't only Ubisoft who used them in that era. A lot of the biggies did. There were lawsuits over damage, mostly didn't go far. But as soon as you get any rep at all for hardware damage it's game over.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/13/2016 9:59:20 PM   
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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/13/2016 10:01:22 PM   
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Great to see another Silent Hunter III fan!

Finally got SHIII running on my Win10 machine today! Also have the Grey Wolves mod and SH Commander.

Looks like you have a more recent SH Commander - do you have a link?

Also, while I have SHIII up and running, can't get it to widescreen - any idea?

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/13/2016 11:06:50 PM   
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Do I have to be a 'subscriber' to continue to play? Or once I DL the game it's mine?


If you are referring to a STEAM download, No you don't have to be a 'subscriber' to play once you download it. You just have to set STEAM to "offline" mode, if you don't wish to log in to STEAM everytime you wish to play. At that point it will just prompt you whenever you start the game if you would like to play on-line or off-line. If you are not even on the web it will inform you so and go ahead and offer offline play.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/13/2016 11:31:46 PM   
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Do I have to be a 'subscriber' to continue to play? Or once I DL the game it's mine?


If you are referring to a STEAM download, No you don't have to be a 'subscriber' to play once you download it. You just have to set STEAM to "offline" mode, if you don't wish to log in to STEAM everytime you wish to play. At that point it will just prompt you whenever you start the game if you would like to play on-line or off-line. If you are not even on the web it will inform you so and go ahead and offer offline play.


Thank you, but no. I was referring to this site http://www.old-games.com.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/14/2016 12:00:13 AM   
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Thank you, but no. I was referring to this site http://www.old-games.com.


Cool. I'm waiting for a little more info on that site myself because I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want Great Naval Battles by SSI and it's listed with them.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/14/2016 12:40:41 AM   
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Do I have to be a 'subscriber' to continue to play? Or once I DL the game it's mine?


Two ways to participate - you can subscribe to download for a day, or a month. Once that period is over, you can no longer download games, but the games you have are yours.
My monthly subscription ended, and the games that worked (included all GNB)still work fine. That's the difference between this and GoG - I've had 100% playability with GoG games downloaded. With this site, probably 70%.

Still worth my $8.95 to get GNB, Carrier Strike and Birth of the Federation - as well as a few others...

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/14/2016 4:43:40 AM   
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Do I have to be a 'subscriber' to continue to play? Or once I DL the game it's mine?


Two ways to participate - you can subscribe to download for a day, or a month. Once that period is over, you can no longer download games, but the games you have are yours.
My monthly subscription ended, and the games that worked (included all GNB)still work fine. That's the difference between this and GoG - I've had 100% playability with GoG games downloaded. With this site, probably 70%.

Still worth my $8.95 to get GNB, Carrier Strike and Birth of the Federation - as well as a few others...


Did GNB come already set up to run or did it have to be manipulated with DOSBOX or something?

edit> never mind... I checked it out without having to download... Looks like most games have a Windows set-up download... Cool... Similar to GoG site.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/14/2016 6:42:34 PM   
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Moose -

Great to see another Silent Hunter III fan!

Finally got SHIII running on my Win10 machine today! Also have the Grey Wolves mod and SH Commander.

Looks like you have a more recent SH Commander - do you have a link?

Also, while I have SHIII up and running, can't get it to widescreen - any idea?


I've had that version of SH3 Commander for at least ten years. My best recollection is I got it off the Subsim.com sub sim gamer site. It still exists.

I'm in Win 7 home version. I just tested SH3 Commander launch. It will load in up to 1440 x 900 standard rez. Above that and I get an error box that says "3D engine failed to load." I right click on the desktop and change the rez before I launch SH3 Commander. It loads in wide-screen. The screenie below is of the rez below 1440 x 900. 1280 x 800. It's stretched, but playable. It fills my full monitor screen. 1440 is much better though.

I do get a toolbar message when launching Commander that Windows 7 has reverted to basic color scheme. That might be a thing in Win 10. Maybe try to load it in Win 7 or Win XP compatibility mode.








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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/14/2016 6:48:03 PM   
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There are two games I couldn't find, one is Birthright and the second is Destiny (old strategy game).

Btw they upgrade it to Win7, Win7 is bad. Hopefully they have it compatible with XP and Win10. You can run the game as admin and under XP though.


Birthright ?

I found it:
http://www.old-games.com/download/6057/birthright-the-gorgon-s-alliance

Regards

Anyone tried Birthright?

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/15/2016 12:46:52 AM   
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Moose -

Great to see another Silent Hunter III fan!

Finally got SHIII running on my Win10 machine today! Also have the Grey Wolves mod and SH Commander.

Looks like you have a more recent SH Commander - do you have a link?

Also, while I have SHIII up and running, can't get it to widescreen - any idea?


Are you guys running directly under Windows (7 or 10) or DOSBOX ?

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/15/2016 1:57:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Silent Hunter was always a Windows game. You might be confusing it with Silent Service (by Microprose) which started as a DOS game.

I'm running the STEAM download version(s) of Silent Hunter (3, 4 and 5) under Windows 7 Pro.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/15/2016 2:33:31 AM   
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http://www.old-games.com/download/5034/7-cities-of-gold

7 cities of gold, the 80s version, is one of my favorite games of all time, I remember playing it as a kid. But probably better to stay away from it and keep the good memories as it is probably very outdated

I wish there were more "age of discovery" games out there;

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/15/2016 4:19:15 AM   
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7 cities of gold


Very tempted.

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I wish there were more "age of discovery" games out there


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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/15/2016 9:04:00 AM   
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REALLY???? I've tried everything and seem to get no where with either 3 or 4 or 2 for that matter...


Yeah I think gog have them too, steam and gamersgate.

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There are two games I couldn't find, one is Birthright and the second is Destiny (old strategy game).

Btw they upgrade it to Win7, Win7 is bad. Hopefully they have it compatible with XP and Win10. You can run the game as admin and under XP though.


Birthright ?

I found it:
http://www.old-games.com/download/6057/birthright-the-gorgon-s-alliance

Regards

Anyone tried Birthright?


Nah I pass, I don't want nothing to do with that site. I still have my CD though from ebay, but only install and run under XP platform. So I cant install this game on modern pc :(

Some of my older games like Great Naval Battles III Fury in the Pacific will run, but have to set it up on DOSBox. Only two wouldn't install properly is Birthright and Destiny.
Hopefully Gog will fix that issues and have ready to download someday.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/15/2016 9:33:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I fear that Birthright will not be available on gog. To much work with a game that was buggy back then and, I suspect, to few potential buyers for a gog-version.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/15/2016 9:45:33 PM   
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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/16/2016 12:04:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		It worked Bullwinkle, or at least ALMOST. However something strange is going on, when I launch and run the game, the minute I switch to another screen, the whole picture gets blurred, like it is shifted and thus not "stable" although it doesn't move around, however it is unreadable (although you get the idea of what the screen is displaying). Any thoughts???? When I exit, this problem is somewhat displace upon my desktop as well (but only where the pointer of the mouse is!), rather strange.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/16/2016 8:55:58 AM   
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I fear that Birthright will not be available on gog. To much work with a game that was buggy back then and, I suspect, to few potential buyers for a gog-version.


Yeah that what I am afraid of, interesting and funny game during combat. I am surprised that no one out there ever made a game compare to this on DnD or any time periods.

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/16/2016 8:35:59 PM   
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It worked Bullwinkle, or at least ALMOST. However something strange is going on, when I launch and run the game, the minute I switch to another screen, the whole picture gets blurred, like it is shifted and thus not "stable" although it doesn't move around, however it is unreadable (although you get the idea of what the screen is displaying). Any thoughts???? When I exit, this problem is somewhat displace upon my desktop as well (but only where the pointer of the mouse is!), rather strange.


I'm not sure what the compatibility settings on Win 10 look like. Below is my compatibility settings in Win 7 for launching. I think cutting out the "talking" to the desktop graphics for older games is sometimes a key.






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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/17/2016 4:21:52 PM   
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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/18/2016 4:13:40 PM   
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Thanks for the assist in getting Silent Hunter full screen.

After much mucking around with different resolutions and such, found that I needed to not toggle the full screen view option in the options screen. That allowed SHIII to go to a windows view, and that then allowed the resolutions to have effect. Best resolution for my monitor wound up being 1600x1200 and then adjusting the monitor display setting to 150%. Takes up about 95% of the monitor and looks great.

No compatibility issues running on Windows 10 so far either! Now I can take a sub for a war cruise while waiting for my turn!

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RE: OT - Good old games site - 8/18/2016 4:37:04 PM   
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Moose -

Thanks for the assist in getting Silent Hunter full screen.

After much mucking around with different resolutions and such, found that I needed to not toggle the full screen view option in the options screen. That allowed SHIII to go to a windows view, and that then allowed the resolutions to have effect. Best resolution for my monitor wound up being 1600x1200 and then adjusting the monitor display setting to 150%. Takes up about 95% of the monitor and looks great.

No compatibility issues running on Windows 10 so far either! Now I can take a sub for a war cruise while waiting for my turn!


Glad you got it to go. Win 10 is unknown territory for me.

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